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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:30 pm

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In post 124, midwaybear wrote:
In post 122, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I can say that every vote is opportunistic for both sides. Town gets rid of a potential LHF earlier rather than later, and scum gets a free town kill.
What is alignment indicative to you
*shrug*
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:31 pm

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VOTE: jake
surprise motherfakka
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“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:37 pm

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In post 124, midwaybear wrote:
In post 122, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I can say that every vote is opportunistic for both sides. Town gets rid of a potential LHF earlier rather than later, and scum gets a free town kill.
What is alignment indicative to you
Like really, what kind of answer are you expecting other than "How the fuck am I supposed to know?"
Scumminess isn't some objective quality, like hardness or height. I know scummy when I see it. Granted, I do have a warped perception of any game because I am a vote magnet, but still.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:41 pm

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You could say something like that.
Your original answer was mostly a nonanswer. Sure town and scum both have incentive to vote you, but as you said, there sometimes is that intuition that allows you to see the difference. Simply leaving things at "yeah could be town or scum pushing me" didn't seem like much of an answer to me, so I was curious to how you scumhunt.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:53 pm

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In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 77, midwaybear wrote:Maria's entrance is unique from what I've seen before, but her vote is neutral.
It was more of Cakez voting Cheetory that seemed a bit unnatural. Cakez's vote seems like a bandwagon vote, and I don't know if his explanation (fifth fortnight) is genuine. This seems like a stretch theory now that I posted :P
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VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.

VOTE: staypositivefriend
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:56 pm

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In post 129, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 77, midwaybear wrote:Maria's entrance is unique from what I've seen before, but her vote is neutral.
It was more of Cakez voting Cheetory that seemed a bit unnatural. Cakez's vote seems like a bandwagon vote, and I don't know if his explanation (fifth fortnight) is genuine. This seems like a stretch theory now that I posted :P
alright, wanna vote a mafia with me?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.

VOTE: staypositivefriend
if me explaining my vote on you on #103 and then questioning you on #119-onward doesn't qualify as "
followup
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:57 pm

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In post 103, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 88, midwaybear wrote:
In post 78, SirCakez wrote:I haven't read anything I just legit am not gonna let Cheet roll over me again
Interesting coincidence then...
In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote: alright, wanna vote a mafia with me?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
I don't really have a read on him because this behavior is mostly NAI for him. What pinged you?
his opening posts felt aimless/uncomfortable to me - posts like #65 felt like jake was more concerned w/positioning himself as someone who fit in with the thread than he was with approaching the game from a solving mindset. i was mostly interested in seeing if i could concentrate a bunch of momentum around him
Actually scratch the followup part, this followup is scummy as fuck.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:58 pm

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tell me more
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:59 pm

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In post 130, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 129, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 79, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 77, midwaybear wrote:Maria's entrance is unique from what I've seen before, but her vote is neutral.
It was more of Cakez voting Cheetory that seemed a bit unnatural. Cakez's vote seems like a bandwagon vote, and I don't know if his explanation (fifth fortnight) is genuine. This seems like a stretch theory now that I posted :P
alright, wanna vote a mafia with me?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.

VOTE: staypositivefriend
if me explaining my vote on you on #103 and then questioning you on #119-onward doesn't qualify as "
followup
", i don't think anything could
If you want to have 103 count as followup, then go ahead and throwe it over here.
Seriously, "i was mostly interested in seeing if i could concentrate a bunch of momentum around him" is pretty scummy to me.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:00 pm

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Why wouldn't you push someone because you wanted to hear more from them, instead of "Well I wanted to feel special in making a wagon!!!"
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:00 pm

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In post 129, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.
And?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:02 pm

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In post 135, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 129, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Looking back on this vote, it's kinda trashy.
There isn't much followup after this vote, either.
And?
And you somehow missed the posts following this one? I know I missed their posts, but they were on a
completely
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:04 pm

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In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: jake
surprise motherfakka
Louise, what inspired you to vote me here?
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:06 pm

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In post 134, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Why wouldn't you push someone because you wanted to hear more from them, instead of "Well I wanted to feel special in making a wagon!!!"
if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a
lot
about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.

putting early pressure on a player like you
forces
you to engage w/the game in a way that wouldn't otherwise happen organically. the fact that we're discussing this right now is confirmation to me that it was a good idea
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:08 pm

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In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.
Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:08 pm

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In post 139, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.
Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.
that seems like pretty valuable information to have, if you ask me.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:09 pm

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In post 136, Jake The Wolfie wrote:And you somehow missed the posts following this one? I know I missed their posts, but they were on a completely different page.
I'm just wondering how what you posted was connected to the vote. Why is having a trashy vote and not following up scummy for her?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:10 pm

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In post 140, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 139, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.
Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.
that seems like pretty valuable information to have, if you ask me.
Why?
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:11 pm

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In post 141, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 136, Jake The Wolfie wrote:And you somehow missed the posts following this one? I know I missed their posts, but they were on a completely different page.
I'm just wondering how what you posted was connected to the vote. Why is having a trashy vote and not following up scummy for her?
Well, their followup was also scummy
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:12 pm

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In post 142, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 140, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 139, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.
Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.
that seems like pretty valuable information to have, if you ask me.
Why?
understanding the playstyle of the people i'm playing with in a game where i don't know a single person is pretty valuable to me. if my push on you gives me
no
information other than gaining insight into how people play, i would still consider it a good thing
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:13 pm

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In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:putting early pressure on a player like you forces you to engage w/the game in a way that wouldn't otherwise happen organically. the fact that we're discussing this right now is confirmation to me that it was a good idea
Question: How does pressuring a LHF help you sort them?
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:14 pm

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In post 144, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 142, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 140, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 139, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.
Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.
that seems like pretty valuable information to have, if you ask me.
Why?
understanding the playstyle of the people i'm playing with in a game where i don't know a single person is pretty valuable to me. if my push on you gives me
no
information other than gaining insight into how people play, i would still consider it a good thing
Or you could read up on how people play via looking at their previous games.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:18 pm

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hello, best town player of the earth here, let's catch some red PMs
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:18 pm

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a wise man once said
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:21 pm

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In post 145, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 138, staypositivefriend wrote:putting early pressure on a player like you forces you to engage w/the game in a way that wouldn't otherwise happen organically. the fact that we're discussing this right now is confirmation to me that it was a good idea
Question: How does pressuring a LHF help you sort them?
this seems self-explanatory - it helps me sort
you
, and sorting you helps me sort the rest of the game by extension. it's silly to suggest that i should read through the meta of 17 different players to figure their dynamics out when i could accomplish the same thing by playing this game.

i don't see this exchange being constructive past this point, so i'm withdrawing from it for now

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