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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:30 pm

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I think it's healthy to have a mindset that allows you to be flexible and reconsider in the face of new impressions. What I am saying is for you not to overthink too much, as you may end up in confbias without realizing it.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:47 pm

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I mean, my scumgame is probably better than my towngame. Although my scum roll is almost nonexistent.

But as long as you keep an open mind, avoid confbias and are constantly evaluating me in good faith, I shouldn't be a problem.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:50 pm

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In post 198, clidd wrote:Idk, it seemed to me that you were pushing Chumbo for meh reasons that didn't work. You actually gave more reasons to vote for Chumbo than necessarily for Fuzzy.

I am not buying into the idea of ​​being a pressure distribution or a reaction provocation.
You are free to not believe me but that's what it was.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:51 pm

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In post 201, clidd wrote:I mean, my scumgame is probably better than my towngame. Although my scum roll is almost nonexistent.

But as long as you keep an open mind, avoid confbias and are constantly evaluating me in good faith, I shouldn't be a problem.
Sounds good, clidd.

I think I'll go log off now and look at the reasons for why Zulfy is scum tmrw because I'm hella tired. Goodnight!
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:59 pm

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In post 202, Zulfy wrote:
In post 198, clidd wrote:Idk, it seemed to me that you were pushing Chumbo for meh reasons that didn't work. You actually gave more reasons to vote for Chumbo than necessarily for Fuzzy.

I am not buying into the idea of ​​being a pressure distribution or a reaction provocation.
You are free to not believe me but that's what it was.
I get it that you're saying that "it is what it is" but I'm trying to understand you here.

Do you have any completed scumgame to link?

I'm lazy to search by myself rn.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:02 pm

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In post 203, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 201, clidd wrote:I mean, my scumgame is probably better than my towngame. Although my scum roll is almost nonexistent.

But as long as you keep an open mind, avoid confbias and are constantly evaluating me in good faith, I shouldn't be a problem.
Sounds good, clidd.

I think I'll go log off now and look at the reasons for why Zulfy is scum tmrw because I'm hella tired. Goodnight!
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:10 pm

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In post 204, clidd wrote:Do you have any completed scumgame to link?
I'm sorry I don't. I don't even remember the last time I was scum.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:14 pm

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By the way, Umlaut, our game history together may have been somewhat overshadowed by that particular HEM/Shiki game. I still feel guilty about the way things went there. Maybe that's why I have a mental block to not immediately recall games from memory to read you.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:21 pm

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In post 206, Zulfy wrote:
In post 204, clidd wrote:Do you have any completed scumgame to link?
I'm sorry I don't. I don't even remember the last time I was scum.
So apparently I'll have to look for it.

This is something for tomorrow, anyways.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:28 pm

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@clidd: Yeah, that was a weird one. I don't blame you for the other game though (the one where you were Traffic Analyst), you
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Maduisha and Nepenthe are probably town

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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:32 pm

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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:41 pm

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Oh, yeah, mini 2139 (Ircher as mod). It is coming to my mind now, lol. Zulfy was there too.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:43 pm

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I'm not sure if I'm vibing with Nepenthe town.

But I agree with a pool of you, Maduisha, Ben and me.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:45 pm

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gaiz i suck at being mafia pls :(
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:54 pm

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It's fine, just buss your partner and you'll get towncred :cop:
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:00 pm

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In post 211, clidd wrote:Oh, yeah, mini 2139 (Ircher as mod). It is coming to my mind now, lol. Zulfy was there too.
That was a fun one. Idk why you left.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:01 pm

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In post 209, Umlaut wrote:@clidd: Yeah, that was a weird one. I don't blame you for the other game though (the one where you were Traffic Analyst), you
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had a mechanical guilty on me if the mechanics hadn't been so weird.

I'm town
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Clidd's town
Maduisha and Nepenthe are probably town

Eliminate everyone else?
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:01 pm

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Umlaut vote fuzzy
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:50 pm

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In post 214, clidd wrote:It's fine, just buss your partner and you'll get towncred :cop:
already on it officer :cop:
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:12 pm

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what's a word to use for when you're tapping your legs
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:13 am

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In post 180, Zulfy wrote:Can u tell us why
and yea sure let me go ahead with that:

Eloisa: Town just the whole thinking seems to line up with reality, which is to say her logic is the same as my logic so we're good. If I town read anyone it's her.
Koba: The sort who wolfs as town or scum.
You: The same as always, i.e. verbose and such. I will be patient.
Madoisha: Seems okay for now. Appreciating the effort.
Ben dover: Have honestly completely skipped past em in my skimming.
Umlaut: Nothing out of the ordinary. Kinda just waiting to see what happens here. The more he posts the better the game will be I think.
I'm forgetting two people idk who tho
Micro 946 - Mafia Strongman:

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Gypyx: Newbie northern european? teen.
Non Compos Mentis (NCM): someone's alt
Logicaltist (Logic): try-hard intro. Gonna vote u
*20: were you really thinking that really
Votato: Finally some color in the thread. Awkward intro nvm gonna vote u instead. Not the IC lol.
inutile: Fun username. I look forward to more investigative work from u
Allomancer: Fix up that attitude bud
Elbrin: Elbirn?
superbowl9: nothing to say. Maybe you last two also didn't get a thread link.
The format you made here was very similar to that of your last scumgame.

When I compare your earlygame here with your town games (Micro 882/Mini 2139), I couldn't find the same formatting used in post 180 to illustrate your reads. Which is why I expected a different reaction from you.

Micro 882: Public Cop 9P:
viewtopic.php?t=80492&f=84&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

Mini Normal 2139:
viewtopic.php?t=82964&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

Your tone in these two games seemed more organic and your comments more widely spaced. Even when someone asked you to say what you were thinking, your reaction was not necessarily to focus everything on a kind of pbp readlist, as you did specifically here and in the scumgame I mentioned.

In contrast, the content of 180 seemed to verbalize a more direct and less comical/more serious message compared to the content of the post you made as scum (which is a good/towny signal). But again, I'm on a speculative field, so I probably need to see more of your engagement with the game to determine the accuracy of my impression of you.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:00 am

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In post 212, clidd wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm vibing with Nepenthe town
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But I agree with a pool of you, Maduisha, Ben and me.
And to contextualize the excerpt in bold, Umlaut, the reason is that I don't think he's actually trying to solve the game.

All of his interactions are with just one player and are reactive rather than proactive, so I see it as null.

The self-explanations of the processes of how he approaches/sees the game are things that he could also detail as scum, as he is addressing the topic of how town!He plays and he doesn't need to be town here to talk about it.

Not that I think he's scum, of course, but I haven't felt anything towny coming from him at the moment.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:31 am

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Hey Lenora, if you are there, do you have any takes on others players besides Dk?

I am interested in seeing your understanding of the game so far.

Dk is a peculiar slot and although I agree with some of your observations regarding the approach they took, it is important to note that town!Dk and scum!Dk behave aggressively/strangely in the earlygame, so I don't think it is possible to get a concrete read in their slot yet. I remember having a hardscumread on them in our first game together and, again, another scumread on our last game together (both they were town), so I'm being more ''open'' this time.

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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:11 am

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In post 217, Zulfy wrote:Umlaut vote fuzzy
You didn't say please!
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:02 am

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In post 220, clidd wrote: The format you made here was very similar to that of your last scumgame.

When I compare your earlygame here with your town games (Micro 882/Mini 2139), I couldn't find the same formatting used in post 180 to illustrate your reads. Which is why I expected a different reaction from you.

Micro 882: Public Cop 9P:
viewtopic.php?t=80492&f=84&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

Mini Normal 2139:
viewtopic.php?t=82964&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

Your tone in these two games seemed more organic and your comments more widely spaced. Even when someone asked you to say what you were thinking, your reaction was not necessarily to focus everything on a kind of pbp readlist, as you did specifically here and in the scumgame I mentioned.

In contrast, the content of 180 seemed to verbalize a more direct and less comical/more serious message compared to the content of the post you made as scum (which is a good/towny signal). But again, I'm on a speculative field, so I probably need to see more of your engagement with the game to determine the accuracy of my impression of you.
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