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Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:28 am

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In post 2654, Spring Breeze wrote:why do you think i'm scum?
PB's case painted a pretty solid picture of you trying to present as a normal townie evaluating the game while not really doing much actual solving. Your response to PB's case was to argue with the facts, not the reasoning, but also to assume that he's trying to spin things to discredit you (why did you assume that? surely if he was town it was in good faith even if his characterizations weren't accurate). You later dropped this read with essentially no explanation beyond "I wasn't thinking straight" which, even if true, is surely not all you can say on the matter if you're town (and it's also the easiest thing in the world to say as scum if you've decided that you can't counterpush PB and get away with it)... and it's also not all you can say on PB.

Then you softed and held the thread hostage while you wrote up some posts which felt like mostly minor responses to things and a readlist that's mostly just the playerlist sorted by activity with a few exceptions (PB, Murder, Jingle). And then you not only claimed a weak role that doesn't match with your soft, but you indicated that you knew it was a weak role, and didn't say anything about why you softed a strong one.
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Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:29 am

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In post 2647, Spring Breeze wrote:
In post 2586, midwaybear wrote:Why is this changing people's minds?
why do you think i'm scum?
I want to keep your wagon going because I don’t find this to be that townie. That’s why I voted.
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Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:29 am

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bleh okay yeah I think I was having a dumb.
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Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 2675, Something_Smart wrote:PB's case painted a pretty solid picture of you trying to present as a normal townie evaluating the game while not really doing much actual solving. Your response to PB's case was to argue with the facts, not the reasoning, but also to assume that he's trying to spin things to discredit you (why did you assume that? surely if he was town it was in good faith even if his characterizations weren't accurate). You later dropped this read with essentially no explanation beyond "I wasn't thinking straight" which, even if true, is surely not all you can say on the matter if you're town (and it's also the easiest thing in the world to say as scum if you've decided that you can't counterpush PB and get away with it)... and it's also not all you can say on PB.

Then you softed and held the thread hostage while you wrote up some posts which felt like mostly minor responses to things and a readlist that's mostly just the playerlist sorted by activity with a few exceptions (PB, Murder, Jingle). And then you not only claimed a weak role that doesn't match with your soft, but you indicated that you knew it was a weak role, and didn't say anything about why you softed a strong one.
did you think at any point in this game she could actually counter push pinkball?
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Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:46 am

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Possibly? I mean if she started a wall war with PB that probably would have gotten some people to write it off as TvT.
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Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:50 am

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There's like 0 people who SR PB and lots of people voting for Kanna so pretty sure that's not possible for her to do in the first place.
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Post Post #2681 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:51 am

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Why would that preclude it from looking like a TvT?
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Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:54 am

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so you're saying her goal for lashing out at PB was to get
townread
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Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am

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Uh also another reason to TR Kanna is because Pooky says she's town.
Case 1) Pooky is town. He says he has a 100% accuracy rate so I'd be willing to believe it.
Case 2) Pooky is scum. He wouldn't say he has a 100% accuracy rate and call Kanna town if Kanna were scum.
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Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:03 am

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In post 2683, Noraa wrote:He says he has a 100% accuracy rate so I'd be willing to believe it.
He's never played with scum Kanna though, so how does he even know that?
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Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:06 am

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In post 2684, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2683, Noraa wrote:He says he has a 100% accuracy rate so I'd be willing to believe it.
He's never played with scum Kanna though, so how does he even know that?
it's like you didn't read why I said she was town at all lol
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Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:12 am

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In post 2550, Spring Breeze wrote:since i've caught up with the thread and given my responses/reads, i'll just say yesterday i was feeling pretty stressed with the game, but today i'm fairly at peace. me dying doesn't mean losing anyway, it's a team game. and also it's fine to lose anyhow. unless you all find a reason to trust me -- and i doubt that at this point -- it's best for me to leave the peach farm to go somewhere else. i was thinking the beach. and you guys can think about who are the bad guys pushing me.

for my claim, i'm nothing special actually, i'm a compulsive fruit vendor selling dixie red peaches. i read from an earlier post that was functionally a vt in this game. don't know if that's true or not, but it's not that useful anyhow. i did just want to hold the thread hostage so i had time to say things i wanted and it was stressful for everyone to suddenly push me. but yeah, that's all!

no, i will not be self voting.
admittedly, spring breeze's claim looks towny in a vacuum

the issue is that i struggle to see the town intent behind hard softing a PR, knowing full well that it could give mafia information based on the way people reacted to it, only to retract the soft and claim a vanilla-esque role

it seems anti-town at best

i will say that my confidence in a SB scum world got shook a little bit, but i just dont understand how anybody playing from a town mindset would make that kind of play
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Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:13 am

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In post 2626, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2621, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 2564, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm literally the only one who thinks she's town and she's clearly not having fun getting piled on by everyone.
Who's scum Pooky?
probly SPF + Zaiden + 2 people lurking off wagon
youre probably 0/2
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Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:18 am

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noraa upgraded from townlean to townread btw
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Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:18 am

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In post 2684, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2683, Noraa wrote:He says he has a 100% accuracy rate so I'd be willing to believe it.
He's never played with scum Kanna though, so how does he even know that?
I don't think he needs to tbh. Sometimes you just know because there's a soul bond!
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Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:25 am

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@SPF everything you say feels very political rn.

I think you want this to go through and you know Kanna flips green here.
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Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:29 am

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In post 2686, staypositivefriend wrote:admittedly, spring breeze's claim looks towny in a vacuum

the issue is that i struggle to see the town intent behind hard softing a PR, knowing full well that it could give mafia information based on the way people reacted to it, only to retract the soft and claim a vanilla-esque role

it seems anti-town at best

i will say that my confidence in a SB scum world got shook a little bit, but i just dont understand how anybody playing from a town mindset would make that kind of play
like this first line:

"townie in a vacuum" is saying its townie, but only without the other things

then you go into "townie intent" but what's the scum intent?

Why can't she just be frustrated with the game state and being screamed at and just wanted people to give her some space to gather her thoughts?

anti-town at best the third line, its like saying its kanna's fault for messing up the way she claimed so even if she flips green here it's not your fault for mis-reading her, it's her fault for messing up here claim.

the final line is more hedging - and saying you can't see how a townie mindset could play like this as if the qualifier is on her to play to an exact townie model.

like people are people.

people are not robots.

people do not play exactly the correct line of play every time.

especially someone sensitive like Kanna who is getting attacked with unrelenting pressure.

So I don't see how you can be this unsympathetic and not see how she could possibly mess up.
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Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:32 am

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In post 2580, Noraa wrote:Anyways we don't need to end day early and I want to town case kanna. Everyone should probs look elsewhere for a bit. I mean we got a claim and all. No need to rush the day.
This is exactly why Noraa is scum with Spring
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Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:33 am

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V/la fever isn’t going down
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:33 am

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In post 2685, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it's like you didn't read why I said she was town at all lol
Are you referring to ?
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Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:33 am

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In post 2594, Noraa wrote:
In post 2592, Gypyx wrote:yeah well idk, long days are often better for scum
No short days are better for scum.
This is false
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Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:33 am

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Hope everything is all right Maria :(
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Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:33 am

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In post 2693, MariaR wrote:V/la fever isn’t going down
awww, hope you'll recover quick !
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Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:34 am

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Wait why did we wagon obv town while I was gone hello idk not my problem will try to read Tonight if I’m up for it
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Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:34 am

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In post 2694, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2685, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it's like you didn't read why I said she was town at all lol
Are you referring to ?
yes
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