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[Wumbo]

I'm still leaning toward SC for reasons already stated.

Sorry, I'm really really out of this game. Just posting to make sure the inactivity thing doesn't irk people again.

I am tempted to hammer him, but I think I'll wait and see.

v/la again this weekend, going on a road trip :/

[StrangerCoug]

Well, something's better than nothing at this point. We ended yesterday with a no-lynch, so we're bought a mislynch, but if we want to use that benefit, somebody needs to hang. I really don't like Cass right now.

[Battousai]

Reasons?

[StrangerCoug]

#650 has most of my case on her, though her line of thinking in #658 doesn't work 100% either, as I point out in the post after that.

[Cass]

Hm. As far as i can tell, your case on me contains some stuff i already defended against (you can of course find my defense unsatisfactory), some things that aren't really scummy and a disagreement with my logic. I don't have a lot to say about any of that. I'd still lynch SC or Wumbo today - both are scummy, but lynching SC (if he is town, which would surprise me) would give us some information. Leaving him alive will just lead to another 'blocked'. Unless I'm missing something - in that case please inform me.

[Hypatia]

VOTE COUNT:

StrangerCoug

Cass
Battousai

With five alive, it is three to lynch.

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: I have a vote out on Cass here.

[Battousai]

geraintm, anything you want to add?

Wumbo, how bout you when you get back?

[Cass]

I am tempted to hammer him, but I think I'll wait and see.

Wait to see what?

[Battousai]

Wumbo, V/LA so you'll have to wait for him to get back. That's what I'm doing and hoping that's what Geraintm is doing as well.

Mod: Can we get a prod on Geraintm please?

[Wumbo]

Wait to see what others said.

Which wasn't much, unfortunately.

I still prefer an SC lynch over a Cass lynch, though both rub me the wrong way. I find it hard to believe that SC isn't dead, however. I think the night kill choice is strange in itself... killing a claimed blue with no suspicion on him rather than a cop or tracker.. and tracker claiming blocked..

[StrangerCoug]

I'm surprised I'm not dead too, and I thought it'd be either me or Battousai for the NK. I do believe the theory that the cop was kept alive knowing that he was naive.

[Battousai]

I don't think they could have killed me anyways. If I died last night, then that means I am a threat to SC or Wumbo (haven't investigated so I could be sane). If I already investigated scum, then they know I'm naive, thus no threat. Call it WIFOM all you want, but that's what I get out of it. Until Geraintm posts, I think we should hold off on a hammer vote on anyone. I do not want to go another night without him posting something more of content for analysis.

[Cass]

I agree with that. I don't like Wumbo's lates post, it makes me lean back towards lynching him. Perhaps he dislikes both the Cass and the SC lynch, because he knows we're both town? Wumbo, is there a lynch that doesn't 'rub you the wrong way'?

I wasn't so surprised about the Litral-kill, though SC or Batt would not have surprised me either. Litral was a confirmed townie, potentially more dangerous than a non-confirmed (and not necessarily sane) power role.

- SC is the scum: he gambled on Batt being naive or checking Wumbo and lied about getting blocked. A bit risky, but might be worth it.
- Batt is the scum: he blocked SC and killed Litral. He convinces us he is naive cop, the only smart thing for him to do at this point. Zero risk.
- I, Geraint or Wumbo is scum: blocked SC, unthreatened by Batt if it's me or geraint (zero risk), gambled if it's Wumbo (note in this case Batt could even be sane!). A bit risky, but might be worth it.

[StrangerCoug]

- SC is the scum: he gambled on Batt being naive or checking Wumbo and lied about getting blocked. A bit risky, but might be worth it.
- Batt is the scum: he blocked SC and killed Litral. He convinces us he is naive cop, the only smart thing for him to do at this point. Zero risk.
- I, Geraint or Wumbo is scum: blocked SC, unthreatened by Batt if it's me or geraint (zero risk), gambled if it's Wumbo (note in this case Batt could even be sane!). A bit risky, but might be worth it.

I figured I'd add Battousai's investigation claims and my own tracking claims to this in case it helps anybody:

Battousai's claimed investigations:

1. geraintm → Innocent
2. Cass → Innocent
3. Litral → Innocent
4. StrangerCoug → Innocent

My claimed tracks:

1. maxwellhouse → Dark wingstalker
2. Cass → Roleblocked
3. Litral → Nobody
4. Wumbo → Roleblocked

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP: Just thought of this:

I'd still lynch SC or Wumbo today - both are scummy, but lynching SC (if he is town, which would surprise me) would give us some information. Leaving him alive will just lead to another 'blocked'. Unless I'm missing something - in that case please inform me.

Unless

I

am missing something, policy-lynching me for information only works if Battousai is a sane cop and survives Night 5 with a guilty on Wumbo. (If Battousai does live to say that Wumbo is scum, though, it clears whichever one of you and geraintm is still alive at that point.)

For obvious reasons, if I am lynched today and I flip scum, game over.

[Hypatia]

Updated Vote Count:

Cass

StrangerCoug

StrangerCoug

Cass
Battousai

Geraintm has been prodded.

[geraintm]

am back from holiday
will post more later today

[geraintm]

ok, am back, and have reread. sorry that i needed prodding, i thought i said i was away for a week?
i am going to say that i am going to go and vote for cougar once i have let everyone read my post and reply to it

i said before i went away that i felt cougar was the person i thought i wanted to get voted for
and i am afraid i havent really changed my mind despite his posts
the ones helpfully putting out a list of the claimed invetigation results, just not adding anything
post 690, i am afraid i just believe batt's claim more than yours, it feels like you have been scrambling the whole game if that makes sense, always responding to the changing game state...
i am sorry if that is not true and you really are telling the truth, but that is how it feels to me.
the only problem i have is that wumbo has basically been given another day to lurk and do nothing which goes against all my principles.
so, sorry to preplan my vote so much, but as i have been away thought i would give everyone a chance to notice my return

[Battousai]

SC's claim aside, what makes you think that I am telling the truth? I am just to be clear, but I want to know what I have done that would make you think that I told the truth.

[geraintm]

vote strangercoug

i just feel that cougar hasn't explained himself as well as i woul dhave liked, it feels like he has been responding to what others have been saying to him for too long.
it might well be just playstyle and you and wumbo have gotten away with your's becuase cougar has just slightly given off vibes i have picked up on.

[StrangerCoug]

BAH!

[Hypatia]

And that's a lynch. The town descends upon StrangerCoug, and he dies. In his pocket you find his calling card--

StrangerCoug, Mafia Goon.

Then night falls.

Dawn will break on SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 21, around 8 PM Eastern Standard Time, or after. Send in your night actions.

PLAYERS:

1. Cass

Tom

2. Wumbo

3. imaginality - Townie

4. Inspector Godot - Mafia Goon

5. chenhsi - Town Cop

6. Dark wingstalker - Mafia Godfather

7. nhat - Town Forensic Investigator
8. maxwellhouse - Town Cop

9. StrangerCoug - Mafia Goon

10. Battousai

Kenfucius

11. geraintm

12. Litral - Townie

[Hypatia]

Dawn comes quietly to our tiny town. As you warily poke your heads out of doors, you don't notice any new bodies. Is this a good sign, or a bad?

PLAYERS:

1. Cass

Tom

2. Wumbo

3. imaginality - Townie

4. Inspector Godot - Mafia Goon

5. chenhsi - Town Cop

6. Dark wingstalker - Mafia Godfather

7. nhat - Town Forensic Investigator
8. maxwellhouse - Town Cop

9. StrangerCoug - Mafia Goon

10. Battousai

Kenfucius

11. geraintm

12. Litral - Townie

With 4 alive, it is 3 to lynch.

[Battousai]

vote:No Lynch

, there's only 1 scum left or else it would have been game over. So letting them kill one more will help us narrow down the field. Also, if we go this route, I suggest not speculating about who is the remaining scum. As that will help the last scum decide who to kill by guessing who would vote for who.