Open 804: Popcorn Mafia Redux [Game Over!]

[Norfolk Boy1]

I disagree.

Pedit: yeah, why not? Unlike most other games, you can't escape death by convincing a percentage of the population. Your fate is in just one pair of hands.

[petapan]

not_mafia owns






however despite being dead null like usual i think he is >rand scum here, not gonna explain just yet

[petapan]

norfolk why are you okay with being shot here if your reads are generally terrible, you'd have to make a shot that is potentially game-ending

[Imperium]

I disagree.

Pedit: yeah, why not? Unlike most other games, you can't escape death by convincing a percentage of the population. Your fate is in just one pair of hands.

I need a little more than you're giving me here.

Duchess asked the difference between a godfather and a goon. How does learning the difference between a godfather and a goon translate to "asking advice for how to play scum"?
Am I misunderstanding something here?

You are correct that your fate is in one pair hands but, in my experience, you don't fool people by asking them what you're supposed to do to fool them but maybe that's just me?

[Imperium]

norfolk why are you okay with being shot here if your reads are generally terrible, you'd have to make a shot that is potentially game-ending

Which reminds me:

@RLotus:

What are your thoughts on my thoughts on STT in this post? In my opinion this is the most significant shit that's happened all game so I want to make sure that the person with the gun understands why I'm bothered by it.

[Imperium]

Nacho do you still hate me from yesterday? Just curious

I don't hate you and have never hated you.
Still think you're scum, though. This is the point where strong town players like yourself should be stepping up to the plate and putting in some work but instead you're fading into the background.

[Norfolk Boy1]

norfolk why are you okay with being shot here if your reads are generally terrible, you'd have to make a shot that is potentially game-ending

My reads are generally terrible. I always believe in them, though and i'd do my best. Plus, it'd sort my alignment and narrow down people's scum pools.

Honestly, read what Not Mafia did to me in Large 231 and how I read it. That game is still ongoing, but the part i'm referencing is long since over.

[Norfolk Boy1]

I disagree.

Pedit: yeah, why not? Unlike most other games, you can't escape death by convincing a percentage of the population. Your fate is in just one pair of hands.

I need a little more than you're giving me here.

Duchess asked the difference between a godfather and a goon. How does learning the difference between a godfather and a goon translate to "asking advice for how to play scum"?
Am I misunderstanding something here?

You are correct that your fate is in one pair hands but, in my experience, you don't fool people by asking them what you're supposed to do to fool them but maybe that's just me?

Well I think it fooled you, so maybe it is

[Imperium]

Don't reference ongoing games. They don't exist.

[Imperium]

Like never ever ever. Doesn't matter if the people you're talking about are flipped or modkilled or whatever. Just don't talk about them.

[RLotus]

norfolk why are you okay with being shot here if your reads are generally terrible, you'd have to make a shot that is potentially game-ending

My reads are generally terrible. I always believe in them, though and i'd do my best. Plus, it'd sort my alignment and narrow down people's scum pools.

Honestly, read what Not Mafia did to me in Large 231 and how I read it. That game is still ongoing, but the part i'm referencing is long since over.

If I shoot you and then you miss your shot we lose.

[Imperium]

hey lotus did you read my stuff on STT bc i'm a rly good scumhunter and i think i caught scum

[Imperium]

Well I think it fooled you, so maybe it is

Maybe!
Luckily you're in a prime position to take the wool out of my eyes if that's the case.

Can you explain how asking the difference between godfather & goon play is the same as asking how to play goon well?

[RLotus]

hey lotus did you read my stuff on STT bc i'm a rly good scumhunter and i think i caught scum

Yeah I read it, why do you think the reads list thing makes him scum?

[Imperium]

In that post that I quoted, he basically argued that his top town read would become a scumread if Norfolk flipped town. I don't think that it's natural to reads that hard based on one wrong read - if someone is your top town read then they're your top townread for a reason so you don't flip so hard on them if they have one incorrect read. Second problem is that he's chaining lynches if Norfolk is town (which I kind of think he is again maybe?). If Norfolk flips town then he attacks Cakez. When Cakez flips town he attacks us. That's convenient and I think it's convenient because he's a scumbutt.

[Imperium]

I also have no idea why people liked his Mush meta read - that was a bunch of hot garbage and I can break it down via wall if such a thing would be useful to you.

[RLotus]

Don't you think he would just attack the TvT dichotomy if he is scum? I don't recall any indication that Norfolk wants to shoot Cakez unless I missed it.

Not that I agree with him or disagree with you, playing devil's advocate here.

[RLotus]

I also have no idea why people liked his Mush meta read - that was a bunch of hot garbage and I can break it down via wall if such a thing would be useful to you.

If you don't mind yeah. I thought his analysis of her play was accurate, but maybe not AI like he says.

[Imperium]

Don't you think he would just attack the TvT dichotomy if he is scum?

I don't get what you mean here.
I think he's setting up SvT dichotomies between Norfolk/Cakes/me, not TvT dichotomies.

[WhemeStar]

PETA solidified my townlean on rock

Shoot duchess

[Imperium]

I also have no idea why people liked his Mush meta read - that was a bunch of hot garbage and I can break it down via wall if such a thing would be useful to you.

If you don't mind yeah. I thought his analysis of her play was accurate, but maybe not AI like he says.

OK, I'll work on it when I'm done catching up.

And hopefully after Norfolk responds to my post again...???

[SirCakez]

This might be the first time ever I agree with Not Mafia. Wow.

which should be a hint that you're messing up somewhere

Why?

[Imperium]

PETA solidified my townlean on rock

Shoot duchess

you don't think i'm onto anything wrt STT?
because i wanna shoot that hydra real bad.

[SirCakez]

I appreciate Peta's input if he's town here and definitely don't think he should be shot anytime soon
So I'll stop shading there

[Imperium]

This might be the first time ever I agree with Not Mafia. Wow.

which should be a hint that you're messing up somewhere

Why?

the joke


your head