Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[Cheetory6]

gyp what're your reads rn

[SirCakez]

Cheet note that Midway is not near the top of my scumlist
I just don't feel safe townblocking him

[Jingle]

Fair enough. I didn't really pay much attention to the Kanna wagon tbh. For some reason I thought murder started it which is why I said he was locktown.

Murder started the Cakez wagon and waffled on the SB wagon until I made my post about how we were never not going to yeet SB. It's easily the scummiest thing from him in the thread so far.

He's still town on the whole, but in the opposite way of Pooky. Murder has done a lot of moderately towny things and one really scummy thing, Pooky has done a lot of pretty mediocre things and one fiery and passionate defense of a scumlord which is probably town. (More on this if necessary, but it's a personality tell from Pooky specifically. I don't think Pookyscum sets himself up aggressively to eat crow or gets as angry/dismissive as he did when it became clear that regardless of what he did Kanna was gonna flip. The read feels super genuine, and it's VERY hard to simulate that amount of genuine emotion for scumtheater when he would have known he was wrong).

[Jingle]

love how i'm saying stuff and as soon as i make a point i actually feel good about peoples just dip the conversation with me

Sorry, I'm fighting through a fog to post atm, and there's a bunch of stuff I'm trying to get around to. If you want interactions with me it'll probably have to wait.

[Cheetory6]

Cheet note that Midway is not near the top of my scumlist
I just don't feel safe townblocking him

He was moreso just curious what was causing the hesitation for you, but I think he understands what you're seeing now.

[Gypyx]

gyp what're your reads rn

Cheet
SPF
mwb
Pink ball
S_S
Private
Gamma
Pooky
murder
Noraa
Maria
zaiden
---nullzone---
Jingle
Tweet
Cake

done during N1, adjustements would look like this :

Pink ball
Cheet
mwb
murder
Noraa
Gamma
S_S
Private
Pooky
---nullzone---
Jingle
cake
maria
Tweet
Cake

[midwaybear]

And I don't like this reaction

What is scummy about my reaction? The quote you brought up originally is just NAI.

[Gypyx]

love how i'm saying stuff and as soon as i make a point i actually feel good about peoples just dip the conversation with me

Sorry, I'm fighting through a fog to post atm, and there's a bunch of stuff I'm trying to get around to. If you want interactions with me it'll probably have to wait.

t'was more directed at cake straight up ignoring me calling out his TR on MT's """"""analysis"""""
*cough*

[Cheetory6]

Was there a reason that Gamma and S_S swapped for you?

Jingle

cake

maria
Tweet

Cake

Also wow I mean if there's two scum in Cakez then he might be the best flip today :p

[Noraa]

that reads list is not faring well with me.

[midwaybear]

wait why do you SR Maria? What's Dunn's thoughts on her rn?

I thought Spring Breeze's progression on Maria looked pretty bad. Spring had this consistent paranoia of "why are people townreading Maria", but also put Maria at light town.
Dunn hasn't taken a look

[Gypyx]

Was there a reason that Gamma and S_S swapped for you?

Jingle

cake

maria
Tweet

Cake

Also wow I mean if there's two scum in Cakez then he might be the best flip today :p

they stayed at the same level, more that the peoples above got more town

and also thought about S_S and realized he really didn't give a strong impression

also ikr, how are we not flipping this red cake already

[Gypyx]

that reads list is not faring well with me.

ofc it doesn't you're tunneling me lol

[Gypyx]

(correct cake is the higher one on my readslist btw)

[Pink Ball]

Votes on Gypyx make me sad. Even sadder because it's town pushing the wagon

[Noraa]

one fiery and passionate defense of a scumlord

I read the whole post. Figured I'd quote the part that I found funny just for the hell of it.

[Noraa]

But yeah I get what ur saying now.

[Morning Tweet]

Gypyx, did you actually read my post? I dont have an opinion on everything that happened but in the post explain all of my reads save for maybe midway which is more of a general feel from earlier

i dont have an issue with being attacked for poor analysis or summarizing but that post is not just a recap of what happened, did you click on the spoiler?

i think some of the better points arent even related to the wagon itself because it was really open and shut for SB dying -- joining or not joining eehh was not so important. For example i think quoting every single vote post and trying to analyze that is a poor exercise, like what was being done for midway's vote a little ways back. I have said this repeatedly

instead though i think Kanna spews PB/Noraa/Zaiden/Cheet/Jingle most heavily as town from her reads thruout the day before the elimination. Murdercat played in a way i think youre less likely to come up with as scum, and i thought you had posts you wouldnt make as scum as well

Like throw out the play-by-play on the wagon if you dont want it, but i was also establishing some of my other reads and i dont actually think the majority of the wagon hop ons can be used

[SirCakez]

And I don't like this reaction

What is scummy about my reaction? The quote you brought up originally is just NAI.

It feels like a handwave. I don't think anyone can legitimately argue the original post doesn't look bad in light of SB's flip.

[SirCakez]

love how i'm saying stuff and as soon as i make a point i actually feel good about peoples just dip the conversation with me

Sorry, I'm fighting through a fog to post atm, and there's a bunch of stuff I'm trying to get around to. If you want interactions with me it'll probably have to wait.

t'was more directed at cake straight up ignoring me calling out his TR on MT's """"""analysis"""""
*cough*

what are you talking about?

[Jingle]

The gist of my MT townread is this:

When here, she consistently posts things that either have a clear trajectory or a very town organization to them. Take for example 3071:

You might say it's a summary, and there is certainly a summary aspect to it. However, it also comes with it's fair share of analysis. Her take on PB not being a bus is basically the same reasoning from my post at Noraa. The stop in the middle to look at SB's reads comes across as a genuine attempt at scumhunting, and the notations there all struck me as relevant. All of the events she brought up do strike me as noteworthy. She doesn't shy away from analyzing motivations (see: murder and preflips, gypyx with maria case) but also doesn't force analysis on every little thing. Possibly best of all, it doesn't feel like there's a motivation to this post. She does all of this analysis and work and ends up with what seems to be a pretty solid starting place for a towncore. It doesn't look like she's doing it for the towncred, because she keeps hunting when the post is done and isn't really trying to steer the conversation away from any suspicious characters.

She's been fairly consistently doing that throughout her ISO, in fact. Sure, MT doesn't really make huge waves, but nothing she's done gives me any thoughts that she's trying to push the game in a proscum direction either. She's just been sitting there, solidly putting in the work and coming to decent conclusions while not really having much attention paid to her in comparison to the big flashy fights and cases. Unlike the lurker crew, though, she IS actively working to advance the gamestate.

[Gypyx]

wtf why would you hide your fucking reads there lol

gtg but i'll check this

pedit : that's @morning

[Jingle]

what are you talking about?

Presumably he's talking about me ignoring his calling me out on my TR of MT, which I just explained.

[Morning Tweet]

this is not so fun to read

I would go back and look at it further but i believe Kanna's chosen miselim was first Zaiden then Jingle, they were the most popular wagons for their own times and she spent most of her "scumread energy" on those two, like relative to everything else she says they are the closest to actual scumreads she had, everything else is flip floppy when you get to the lower end of her reads.

it is possible for multiple scum to get wagoned after each other i suppose but i feel like Kanna would be most comfortable putting her 1 and only actual 'scumread' on a town player that other ppl are doing the work for her on

[Morning Tweet]

wtf why would you hide your fucking reads there lol

gtg but i'll check this

pedit : that's @morning

what

my reads are at the bottom of the post

the spoiler is a tangent i went on analyzing kanna's reads which was IMO insightful cause it already lined up with a lot of the townreads i already had

Also so you didnt read it then ;-;

I spoiler stuff when i feel guilty im taking up too much space