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[Datisi]

I'd be willing to stake my life on Datsi being town.

DeathNote was a

Town Tracker

it really doesn't, no.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm willing to eliminate elements based on deathnote but he could be wrong. Outside chance of ranny but I doubt it.

[Datisi]

I am 80% on scum!Datisi so I will not be changing my vote today most likely.

Wisdom of the crowd, don't see a claim making a difference.

VOTE: Daisy

60% last scum is datisi
30% elements
10% someone else.

how did you go from "80% datisi" to hammering daisy to now having elements in the picture?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Well if it's not you and not me it's someone else.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Could be luca I suppose but he's been pretty town.

[Datisi]

"60% it's datisi" doesn't sound like it, and i'm assuming you hadn't seen (or are pretending to not had seen) the tracker results. why did you include elements in there?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Elements is scummier than ranny or luca imho.

[Datisi]

i'm not sure you're getting me. you were decently certain it's me or daisy. daisy flipped town. why were you suddenly "it's like 30% elements" as opposed to going "lol kill datisi ggez".

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm a reasonable person. Death could have had a result that would have cleared you.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Elements was pushing cook death and oopsie at different points.

[Datisi]

so... you saw that deathnote died and was a tracker. you decided to not go back to see if he crumbed his results or not, but you lowered my odds of being scum *anyway*?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I didn't check for crumbs.

[Datisi]

that's what i asked. you did not check for crumbs, but decided i'm less likely to be scum anyway because deathnote *might* have had a clear on me? that you didn't go look for?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I lowered your odds based on me being wrong on oopsie.

[NoPowerOverMe]

That was before you pointed out deaths statement.

[Datisi]

ok.

i don't think there's too much of a need to be figuring out a massclaim order between luca/ranny/ele, just claim in your first post back.

also don't be hasty in voting, i wanna take some time to reread parts of the game, which i should have time for over the weekend. i imagine i'll be dead tomorrow, so give me a chance to solve this. or drive us off a cliff, one or the other.

npom, while you're here, anything else you find ele scummy for, other than pushing town?

[Luca Blight]

Datisi is probably Town as that does appear to be a result crumb from DeathNote.

I'l have to reevaluate

[Luca Blight]

Son of a Shepard(3)

- Rannygazoo, NoPowerOverMe, Elements

DeathNote(3)

- Cook, Saudade, OopsieDaisy

Prince Zuko(2)

- Luca Blight, Datisi

Cook(1)

- Shigaraki

OopsieDaisy(1)

- DeathNote

Shigaraki(1)

- Salsabil Faria

Not Voting (2)

- Prince Zuko, Son of a Shepard

I said at the time that the DeathNote wagon was being pushed by scum, and I was right about that. With me and Datisi pushing the Zuko elim, it makes sense for there to be one scum on both of the other two wagons. Zuko was not defending himself so his scum buddies were having to do that for him indirectly.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: saudale

This, within the surrounding context, seems a probable bus. NPOM was hard-pushing Cook, and when the wagon didn't gain traction and the Saudade wagon was picking up pace again (DeathNote had just voted him) NPOM switches to Saudade and then pushes him with utmost conviction. I played with NPOM is a couple of previous games and I don't remember him ever being so sure in his reads as he has been in this game.

[Luca Blight]

And the general 1v1 dynamic between Saudade and NPOM makes sense from someone who knows he's being bussed and just wants to create as much distance as possible.

[Luca Blight]

This also follows a similar pattern:

Nah. It's hard to scum hunt when your answers can't be taken seriously. We can do this the official way though.

VOTE: firebringer

I want to know your role and what actions you took since you want to be coy about it.

VOTE: firebringer

Sounds like he is setting up to retract his cop claim.

VOTE: NPOM

I fake claimed cop our first game together.

Once again DeathNote votes scum, NPOM follows suit and quickly gets into a 1v1 with said scum. Both Saudade and Firebringer played like they were being bussed, given they're both experienced players. I believe the plan behind this was to sacrifice Firebringer for the sake of outing a PR and giving his partner enough towncred to coast home once the PR's had been killed.

[Luca Blight]

Elements' progression on Saudade is also a bit suspect:

VOTE: saudade

Naked votes him to start the day

lets go team
we can elim sausage before he even gets to the thread

When the wagon takes off Elements seems to want the elim accomplished before Saudade enters the thread

VOTE: datisi

As soon as the pressure had eased a bit on Saudade they naked vote Datisi instead

elements how do you move from voting me to voting datisi with me so easily without saying a word

I currently have two reads I'm happy with:
NPOM town
Daisy scum

So I'm flowing my vote with what's happening to see if it'll help me figure anyone else out.
Your return to day 2 has me leaning on you town and your wagon expanded like a balloon.
So I'm listening to what your saying and moving my vote to Datisi. Not that that's explicitly what you said, I just felt that's the way the wind was blowing

Elements now TR's Saudade

geez where did all this sausage hate come from

Soft defence?

ooo, in that case I'd be in favour of a saudade elim over a Daisy one
VOTE: saudade

When the Saudade elim seems inevitable Elements is suddenly really keen on his elim again.

I don't get the progression from wanting Saudade limmed before he could even enter, to TR'ing him and being skeptical of his wagon, to then suddenly being very happy with his elim again.

[NoPowerOverMe]

So...I'm scum because I'm more sure on my reads? You haven't read my last few games obviously.

[Luca Blight]

I just don't get why you were suddenly so sure

[Luca Blight]

I'm not saying you're scum, but I know there's scum within you, Elements and Rannygazoo and I'm in the process of working out who it is.