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[NoPowerOverMe]

Luca's vote made this game a lot more confusing.

[Rannygazoo]

At this point I believe Datisi is Town and I’m willing to let him decide this elim.

Possibly NPOM is cleared? If that’s the case then eliminating Rannygazoo + elements guarantees a win fmpov. Right now I honestly have no idea which one is more likely to be scum.

This is less solvey than I’ve come to expect from you.

I think it's pretty understandable in the context of having two potential clears.

I just finished a game where I was in this exact position, with there being a conftown in a 4T v 1S scenario, and I said the exact same. When I'm not sure who is scum I am always fine letting the conftown decide, especially when I trust that player's judgement.

So the lesson learned is not to trust yourself? There goes the respect I had for you as a player.

I'm trying really really hard not to OMGUS Luca because I'm trying to understand how he's considering the possibility of scum!me setting up a win next day. What Luca doesn't understand is that I'm trying to stop the game from getting to next day!

[Rannygazoo]

Luca's vote made this game a lot more confusing.

To me too. It's like, the solution is right here, why are you doing this????

[Datisi]

I thinking
Luca, npom, You [datisi], ranny
all pretty solid town reads atm

good fucking post elements

[Rannygazoo]

Elements your posts annoy me

Is this why you’ve cleared Elements in your mind, Datisi?

[Datisi]

VOTE: firebringer

Sounds like he is setting up to retract his cop claim.

this feels like kinda unnecessary for scum!npom???

like there's people yelling at daisy at the moment
he's yelling at me
why not just tell fire to stop acting like an idiot and stfu / properly claim and hope people go onto daisy/datisi

[Datisi]

Elements your posts annoy me

Is this why you’ve cleared Elements in your mind, Datisi?

saudade associates are part of it but not all. don't ask me to elaborate on that because i'm not sure if i know how to put it into words right now.

[Rannygazoo]

I fucking hate every post elements have ever made in this game

this game or ever?

This seems like a town!Elements case.

Imagine for a second that this is real, both in the game thread and the scum pt. Doesn’t this explain why Saudade was content to leave when he did?

[Elements]

I thinking
Luca, npom, You [datisi], ranny
all pretty solid town reads atm

good fucking post elements

[Elements]

I thinking
Luca, npom, You [datisi], ranny
all pretty solid town reads atm

good fucking post elements

tbf, there are 3 town in that set

[Elements]

I fucking hate every post elements have ever made in this game

this game or ever?

This seems like a town!Elements case.

Imagine for a second that this is real, both in the game thread and the scum pt. Doesn’t this explain why Saudade was content to leave when he did?

So your scum case on me involves:
"Saudade was fine leaving the game"
"Saudade didn't enjoy elements' posting"
"This would be exaggerated if they were in a pt"
"Ergo Elements scum"

[Datisi]

I fucking hate every post elements have ever made in this game

this game or ever?

This seems like a town!Elements case.

Imagine for a second that this is real, both in the game thread and the scum pt. Doesn’t this explain why Saudade was content to leave when he did?

i struggle to believe this post ever gets made in good faith

[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't know that saudade has the emotional intelligence for distancing.

[Rannygazoo]

Sure, is there a problem with that?

My case on you involves how little resistance there was on Saudade and FB’s wagons. I mean, both elims felt like they didn’t really have to happen when they did. It matches your involvement at the time.

lets go team
we can elim sausage before he even gets to the thread

geez where did all this sausage hate come from

I've sort of neglected this game for a bit, what have I missed?

I think this progression is telling.

Aside from that, you’ve been hard to read because you didn’t do much except feud with Daisy.

[Rannygazoo]

But this isnt how I normally play so If I do get hanged here I wont be particulary upset

@Datisi you have any theories about this?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I was hoping this wouldn't fall all on one person but it's looking like Datisi may end up being kingmaker here.

[Rannygazoo]

I was hoping this wouldn't fall all on one person but it's looking like Datisi may end up being kingmaker here.

Not necessarily, but Datisi has the best case for being town here, so it would be unwise to make a decision without him.

[Datisi]

But this isnt how I normally play so If I do get hanged here I wont be particulary upset

@Datisi you have any theories about this?

no, why?

[Rannygazoo]

But this isnt how I normally play so If I do get hanged here I wont be particulary upset

@Datisi you have any theories about this?

no, why?

I was hoping you’d offer something instead of just calling my case bad faith. :/

I mean, I’m sorry if it’s harsh, but that’s what it looks like to me.

[Datisi]

i mean i'm saying that the logic of "saudade didn't like elements therefore he was fine dying to get away from them" is like. stretchy as shit to the point i don't think it's a genuine thought?

also i'm not sure how that relates to asking me about saudade saying he's changing the way he's playing or wtv

[NoPowerOverMe]

Luca twice states he's throwing his hands up to Datisi.

[Rannygazoo]

No, that’s not quite what I’m saying. I don’t think Saudade hated El or wanted to spite him. I do think the Saudade found the team hard to work with since they were inactive, so he decided it was nbd if this one was a loss. And no one stepped up to defend Saudade (except for El’s thing I quoted above) or even call attention to a different wagon, so what am I supposed to make of that?

My focus was on the “I won’t be particularly upset”, not the “I’m posting differently”.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Saud/El helps El and the Luca vote hurts Luca but is enough to push El up the ladder?

[Elements]

Sure, is there a problem with that?

My case on you involves how little resistance there was on Saudade and FB’s wagons. I mean, both elims felt like they didn’t really have to happen when they did. It matches your involvement at the time.

lets go team
we can elim sausage before he even gets to the thread

geez where did all this sausage hate come from

I've sort of neglected this game for a bit, what have I missed?

I think this progression is telling.

Aside from that, you’ve been hard to read because you didn’t do much except feud with Daisy.

I think asking everyone to wait for the low activity scum to catch up is more damming than this.

[Rannygazoo]

How so?