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[Marky Mark]

It is very possible that I am missing something here but for the poeple who want to vote grendel, how do you explain the second kill N1? The most feasible explanation I could think of if grendel!scum is that we have an SK, but that would mean misty must be mafia, and she has looked pretty town to me all game.

[Marky Mark]

@Titus - mistyx has said that the setup is 8v3 due to night action info they have. me!sk is possible fypov I guess if misty is scum, but that's the only possible scenario

Or they just shoot him

A CC here is dumb

If there actually is a town vig then sure, let's elim away from grendel and they could just shoot him tonight. I suspect that we are not in a CC situation, but simply that there are no other kililing roles within the town full stop.

[Marky Mark]

Would revealing your night action help us sort Grendel Titus?

[Marky Mark]

btw thanks for replacing in, and same to you pooky

[MathBlade]

It is very possible that I am missing something here but for the poeple who want to vote grendel, how do you explain the second kill N1? The most feasible explanation I could think of if grendel!scum is that we have an SK, but that would mean misty must be mafia, and she has looked pretty town to me all game.

See where I am at is two fold:

If Grendel is scum like my loyal check would seem to indicate then Misty is probably lock town
If Grendel is SK then Misty is conf scum for lying and the more she says “It’s vague” to what question did you ask the moderator the more sus I am of her Oracle claim, and this might be the world we’re in where Misty guessed a vig.
If Grendel is town then Misty is lock town and one or more of GreyICE/you/someone hood with crumbs is dead

Me conf + Misty conf + narrowing scum pool is hard to pass up if wrong but I think I am right.

[MathBlade]

That Mistyx read is the spicy one I had because it only works if Grendel is SK.

[MathBlade]

Would revealing your night action help us sort Grendel Titus?

I don’t see why she wouldn’t.

Joats are a bunch of one shots

[Marky Mark]

It is very possible that I am missing something here but for the poeple who want to vote grendel, how do you explain the second kill N1? The most feasible explanation I could think of if grendel!scum is that we have an SK, but that would mean misty must be mafia, and she has looked pretty town to me all game.

See where I am at is two fold:

If Grendel is scum like my loyal check would seem to indicate then Misty is probably lock town
If Grendel is SK then Misty is conf scum for lying and the more she says “It’s vague” to what question did you ask the moderator the more sus I am of her Oracle claim, and this might be the world we’re in where Misty guessed a vig.
If Grendel is town then Misty is lock town and one or more of GreyICE/you/someone hood with crumbs is dead

Me conf + Misty conf + narrowing scum pool is hard to pass up if wrong but I think I am right.

I agree the payoff is massive if Grendel is either SK or scum here. I just think this is unlikely due to the lack of explanation for the second kill and misty being very towny, which mitigates the high reward.
The payoff on locktowning you/misty isn't massive as I am TRing both of you fairly hard, and so are most of the plist

Grendel scum doesn't explain the 2nd death still so realistically comes down (as far as I can see) to either:
grendel!SK, misty!scum
or
grendel/misty both town and you were RBed or similar by scum

[MathBlade]

It does if scum vig is a thing.

This is a theme game

[Marky Mark]

Yeah I mean you are more experienced than me with role likelihood but multiple players have said scum vig is pretty rare. Would also be giving scum 2 NKs which seems like a lot if town have no killing roles

[Marky Mark]

Night all

[Dannflor]

VOTE: grendel

[Titus]

Would revealing your night action help us sort Grendel Titus?

No. If it did, I would have outed it already.

[MathBlade]

Would revealing your night action help us sort Grendel Titus?

No. If it did, I would have outed it already.

Does your Joat recharge if we have 10000000000 days and nights? (I hope not this is hyperbole)
If not, what is your hesitance to sharing what you did since it won’t impact what scum can or can’t do regarding your future unclaimed actions?

[Titus]

Would revealing your night action help us sort Grendel Titus?

No. If it did, I would have outed it already.

Does your Joat recharge if we have 10000000000 days and nights? (I hope not this is hyperbole)
If not, what is your hesitance to sharing what you did since it won’t impact what scum can or can’t do regarding your future unclaimed actions?

1) Claiming what actions I have done tells scum what I can't do in the future and gives them a safety blanket. Ex: If I said I copped you, scum would know you're likely the last alignment investigator and shoot you as I likely don't get 2 cop shots. If scum don't know my features, they have to be wary of everything. (Note: Cop on Math was purely hypothetical.)

2) If a contradictory claim comes up in the future, I can duel scum then instead of letting them know what is safe to claim.

Those are the big two.

[Alisae]

Seeking replacement for Jesse Pierce.

[Mistyx]

That Mistyx read is the spicy one I had because it only works if Grendel is SK.

really?

the logic seems to stand regardless, and if you're going to bring up valid reasons to not have me as clear i'd rather you work through them now

[MathBlade]

That Mistyx read is the spicy one I had because it only works if Grendel is SK.

really?

the logic seems to stand regardless, and if you're going to bring up valid reasons to not have me as clear i'd rather you work through them now

If Grendel flips SK the setup cannot be ask you said 8v3. That would be a proven lie which makes you scum since SK would be impossible.

[MathBlade]

Would revealing your night action help us sort Grendel Titus?

No. If it did, I would have outed it already.

Does your Joat recharge if we have 10000000000 days and nights? (I hope not this is hyperbole)
If not, what is your hesitance to sharing what you did since it won’t impact what scum can or can’t do regarding your future unclaimed actions?

1) Claiming what actions I have done tells scum what I can't do in the future and gives them a safety blanket. Ex: If I said I copped you, scum would know you're likely the last alignment investigator and shoot you as I likely don't get 2 cop shots. If scum don't know my features, they have to be wary of everything. (Note: Cop on Math was purely hypothetical.)

2) If a contradictory claim comes up in the future, I can duel scum then instead of letting them know what is safe to claim.

Those are the big two.

1) I am not worried about as someone else claimed invest sort of. I am playing as if I am dead tonight.
2) That’s what I am afraid of. You as scum fake claiming you did something and claiming Joat to be able to come up with a narrative later.

[Grendel]

im not an sk, im just a vig

-/-/-/-/-

Mark's recent posts, and how much he has been vouched for me definitely does feel like it could be deep wolf material. Which is unfortente. Im not even sure why i was town reading him now off hand. I generally expect that in a situation like this one scum would try to diversify their stances best as possible. So Marky would be the one flying high here, and he'd have two buddies flying low. Or a buddy whose N/a (Jesse -.- )

What was the argument for Mark/Dann being scum togather? I think they arent scum together based off their D1 dueling wagons, but somebody siad they could be.

[Grendel]

@gray

Why are you refusing to engage me?

No point. Anti-town to discuss anything with you, only gives your team information for future days.

We won't speak again until the post game.

This confidence really sounded fake to me. idk if i said that before, but it does. I dont have a great way to explain it. But sometimes scum just say/react hyperbolically to situations in the thoughts that displaying this sort of confidence makes the up incoming flip easier to brush off long term.

Titus falls under a similar shade tho is distributed over the course of several posts.

Mark/Gray/Titus? that would be interesting

[Mistyx]

That Mistyx read is the spicy one I had because it only works if Grendel is SK.

really?

the logic seems to stand regardless, and if you're going to bring up valid reasons to not have me as clear i'd rather you work through them now

If Grendel flips SK the setup cannot be ask you said 8v3. That would be a proven lie which makes you scum since SK would be impossible.

no, i know

but i don't see why that not happening makes me locktown

[MathBlade]

Because if Grendel is scum you don’t announce 8v3 if it was 8v3 here and then have scum buddy Grendel follow it up with “how do you know?” Paraphrase

[Grendel]

If i where to look through the lens of who was putting the most effort in trying to figure out what to do in this situation, being open to talking throughout the day... Dannfoar looks pretty town. Cassowary as well.

None of Pooky/Jesse have been present to do anything one way or the other today.

Marky mark trying to flip else where, outside my slot. Is possible deep wolf. Titus/Grey boiling things down to a binary are scum.

-/-/-/-/-

Town: Math/Mistx/Flea
Town lean: Dannflor/Cassowary

Scum lean: Pooky/Jesse
Paranoia read: Mark

Scum: Titus/Grey

[Grendel]

Im starting to scum read Grey more the titus tbh

VOTE: GreyICE