Only I literally was the RVS wagon so where’s the difference?In post 299, Flea The Magician wrote:3 and 4 are a combined point, that you're seperating them is interesting. A player being jumpy is VERY different to an RVS wagon on a player going to E-1.
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Regarding the it thing, like I’m sorry if that’s happened to you but it’s not what was happening here and it’s hard for me to entirely separate that to an oog thing when I don’t know you at all
But I’ll give benefit of the doubt that it’s just an irl thing and not you playing for advantage or trying to pocket infinity"we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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infinity slot is solved. he's either town that dies N1 or scum that dies N1. i'm 90% sure he is town because it's probably optimal to roll the dice as scum in his spot and hope that your E-1 wagon dissipates rather than guaranteeing your N1 death by claiming vig.
i like mena for town at the moment. small sample size, but i see similar defensiveness to people voting him as his last town game. perhaps he's just that sort of character in general regardless of alignment, but it's enough to go off for now. in any case, it seems obvious to me that the scum team isn't mena/flea. they're the first pairing i'm ruling out due to overly nuanced/unnecessary interactions at a stage of the game where it isn't necessary to interact like this with your buddy.
given this is a small game, ruling players out of possible pairings is actually a big boost to their town EV from a purely combinatorial perspective, ie; mena/flea can be scum with 4 players {ythan, mom, vander, mare}, whereas someone like an ythan can be scum with 5 players {mom, vander, mare, mena, flea}, thus are in more possible scumteams.
so, my current pool is {ythan, mom, vander, mare}.
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Honestly that you think I'd pull something like that disgusts me. This is just more proof of you extracting context for your own benefit and naff pushes though.In post 301, Menalque wrote:Regarding the it thing, like I’m sorry if that’s happened to you but it’s not what was happening here and it’s hard for me to entirely separate that to an oog thing when I don’t know you at all
But I’ll give benefit of the doubt that it’s just an irl thing and not you playing for advantage or trying to pocket infinity
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I mean, if you catch my alt we're going to have some serious issuesIn post 307, Mare wrote:I’m going to feel very embarrassed if I alt slip by the way and I almost did and I would have left out of shame.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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Flea The Magician(3): Menalque, Mare, Infinity 324
Infinity 324(2): Ythan, Vanderscamp
Menalque(1): Flea The Magician
Vanderscamp(1): Momrangal
Ythan(1): Hoopla
Not Voting(0):None.
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Hey Mare, any reason why you seem to be endlessly sheeping people this game?
Like first you volunteered to be my doublevoter and now VCA looks like you;re just outright sheeping Menal.
2 wagons have reached E-1, Menalque and Infinity, and lets face it mines stalled for some reason.
Mare is well sus, and I wanna know what Ythan, Infinity, Vanders and Hoopla think of both my wagon and of Menalque.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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It's possible this is indicative but I'm pretty wary of putting much faith in voting analysis in a game where there are only two wolves.In post 171, Momrangal wrote:And now some food for thought.
Mare is the only one who has been ran up to L-1 and none of the other wagong that have been formed are sticking. Let's talk and think about that for a moment
A wagon not sticking would normally imply that the person isn't a wolf, but in this game, if the wagon is a wolf, there's just one other person in the game who is trying to not kill the wagon, and there's a good chance they weren't on the wagon in the first place, so the towns not moving off the wagon doesn't make the wagon good.
I think lack of strong wagons on other candidates is going to be slightly more relevant, since there's the argument that wolves can always just stay on a wagon they like, but it doesn't take too much for wolves to actually be doing this and random towns to be moving away (or wolves who feel like it moving away)
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I think 4 is fair: unless it's seen as super scummy on this site to hammer wagons like Mena at this stage of the game, there's a very good chance that if mena is town there's at least one scum on his wagon.In post 182, Menalque wrote:
(1) ok, yIn post 161, Flea The Magician wrote:1 You give me the bad vibes, 2 you feel jumpy and 3 theres absolutely no way you go around demanding vote justification 4
and just on your attackers unless you're bad news imo
(2) ok, y
(3) uh, actually I tend to do this whenever someone votes me unless I think I’ve been actively scummy
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VOTE: FleaIn post 310, Flea The Magician wrote:Hey Mare, any reason why you seem to be endlessly sheeping people this game?
Like first you volunteered to be my doublevoter and now VCA looks like you;re just outright sheeping Menal.
2 wagons have reached E-1, Menalque and Infinity, and lets face it mines stalled for some reason.
Mare is well sus, and I wanna know what Ythan, Infinity, Vanders and Hoopla think of both my wagon and of Menalque.-
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I don't think much of your wagon, I'm voting you because I want to put wagons of people I don't townread at E-1.In post 310, Flea The Magician wrote:Hey Mare, any reason why you seem to be endlessly sheeping people this game?
Like first you volunteered to be my doublevoter and now VCA looks like you;re just outright sheeping Menal.
2 wagons have reached E-1, Menalque and Infinity, and lets face it mines stalled for some reason.
Mare is well sus, and I wanna know what Ythan, Infinity, Vanders and Hoopla think of both my wagon and of Menalque.
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Sorry but my butt is more aggressive. Glad to know this is what I get for taking inititive and not letting the game stall out.
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Sorry but my butt is more aggressive. Glad to know this is what I get for taking inititive and not letting the game stall out.
VT, hammer away nerds <3
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>.>In post 307, Mare wrote:I’m going to feel very embarrassed if I alt slip by the way and I almost did and I would have left out of shame.
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I'm the elimination of choice, my answers mean nothing when my flip speaks so much more. I got tired of your context shiftingIn post 319, Menalque wrote:The fact that you’ve just like faded away and not really responded to a bunch of my points/questions and now are just playing it designed makes me feel p confident this goes redWanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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This is the only thing I don't recall answering, you werent the only RVS wagon FMPOV.In post 300, Menalque wrote:
Only I literally was the RVS wagon so where’s the difference?In post 299, Flea The Magician wrote:3 and 4 are a combined point, that you're seperating them is interesting. A player being jumpy is VERY different to an RVS wagon on a player going to E-1.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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Again, feel free to provide any examples of me context shiftingIn post 321, Flea The Magician wrote:
I'm the elimination of choice, my answers mean nothing when my flip speaks so much more. I got tired of your context shiftingIn post 319, Menalque wrote:The fact that you’ve just like faded away and not really responded to a bunch of my points/questions and now are just playing it designed makes me feel p confident this goes red
Oh wait u can’t
I’m p sure there was other stuff too but how does there being 1 vs multiple RVS wagons have an impact on the logic being discussed?In post 322, Flea The Magician wrote:
This is the only thing I don't recall answering, you werent the only RVS wagon FMPOV.In post 300, Menalque wrote:
Only I literally was the RVS wagon so where’s the difference?In post 299, Flea The Magician wrote:3 and 4 are a combined point, that you're seperating them is interesting. A player being jumpy is VERY different to an RVS wagon on a player going to E-1."we knew everything... And we knew nothing."-
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