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Chara · Post Post #4725 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:37 pm

Ali if you have talked more about why Luca becomes more likely scum on a Norwee townflip i'd appreciate being pointed to it, but i townread both of them.

and logically i can see the difference in Ali's pov between Fark and skitter but given Ali's townread on skitter i don't like how easily e agrees that Luca's argument about skitter can have merit only on a Farkran townflip.

ISO · Post Post #4726 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:37 pm

In post 4720, Luca Blight wrote:And what about the rest of what I wrote in that post?

Do you disagree?

I don't disagree. If I were to read skitter off of my own faculties she'd be somewhere near nullscum, I think?

ISO · Post Post #4727 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:39 pm

In post 4724, Luca Blight wrote:The line I heard earlier was that Menalque always Townbins Skitter until later in the game regardless?

This is the post I was going off of. Maybe I'm reading it as more confident than it is.

In post 4419, Menalque wrote:yah the idea that scum!skitt kills pooky N1 is kinda ridiculous imo

Luca Blight · Post Post #4728 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:39 pm

Trust your own faculties and let's work this out today, then. Another mislim allows scum too much control and it could be game over already.

I'm out of time so I'll continue this later

Chara · Post Post #4729 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:41 pm

meaning i understand why Ali would prefer to flip Farkran here even if e thinks Luca's point has some potential, but it feels like e is lining up a path to more miselims.
i also don't really buy that scum Ali has more posts, Alisae is aware of e's own meta and i think if the game is going eir way e doesn't need to wrestle control of the game through force, and would have a better time being more subtle about it.

pedit: goodnight. me too.

ISO · Post Post #4730 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:42 pm

I mean, in my experience I've had a lot of trouble reading skitter early in the game. In TENET in particular I was scumreading her until she started hitting her stride.

Alisae · Post Post #4731 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:47 pm

In post 4729, Chara wrote:meaning i understand why Ali would prefer to flip Farkran here even if e thinks Luca's point has some potential, but it feels like e is lining up a path to more miselims.

okay then you can vote me if Farkran flips town

Alisae · Post Post #4732 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:48 pm

If by your logic I'm scum and Fark is town, then Fark flipping town should prove that, therefore you have nothing to lose if you vote fark.
If he flips town, you get more ammo against me
if he flips scum, then you're wrong, I'm right, and we live happy

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #4733 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:54 pm

In post 4703, Alisae wrote:Norwee can be scum with Skitter
Norwee can be scum with Fark
Norwee can be scum with day

And yet i’m town and not scum with anyone at all. Shit’s wild.

Alisae · Post Post #4734 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:55 pm

prove it

Farkran · Post Post #4735 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:03 pm

I'm caught up, wanted to say something but basically not much has changed since my last posts

Luca summarized all the points i had to say about skitter, probably better than how i could've worded them

My solve rn is skitter+alisae, third one could still be ydrasse or chara but that push from ss is also kinda poor? Despite not wanting to, i feel like i definitely got passionate in this game and by now everyone knows it's not town-indicative for me, so i wonder why -even if it isn't true- i get to be pushed for *not* being passionate?

I mean of course i try to be reasonable. I do my best to be reasonable. And i often fail at that. How is it ai?

Farkran · Post Post #4736 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:10 pm

In post 4695, Alisae wrote:Yep, so I don't mind being wrong on Fark and seeing what happens.
Fark flipping town is also pretty helpful for reading the game.

I do have one thing to say about alisae though

The same reasoning applied to skitter could be applied to er as well, considering that this is er current stance and i believe there is no reason to change/strengthen it based on nka

I think i would have been a valuable info lim yesterday as well given that i has 1v1s with pooky and skitter (and to some extent menalque) yet ali never considered voting me. Now i'm er highest scumread but i'm also a high value info lim to er

What do you get from my town flip ali? Who is scum if i am town?

Farkran · Post Post #4737 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:28 pm

Norwee/Luca/Day still to the pinnacle of towniness to me

Scum!norwee would have trashed me a million times by now regardless

Day and Luca are pretty much the only two slots that are actually trying to solve rather than pushing onesided lims, if they're scum i'm ok eating the loss (hint: they are town)

Menalque could still be scum, but i feel more strongly about skitter rn. Actually i might have been wrong in disaligning them because of bussing mechanics - skitter is way more unpredictable than i expected her to be, if that midday wk was a farce it wouldn't be outside of the plausible realm to have a mena/skit team

I mean i think mena would "pocket" skitter as either alignment and in any team so it's not ai nor associative for him - skitter maybe just doesn't want to bus there given how many available wagons there were by midphase d1? I mean i'm still trying to understand why she didn't defend pp with the same passion she used for menalque, there were still more than 24 hours left which i believe is enough time for town!skitter's standards

She also didn't push for her scumreads anywhere as fiercely in both circumstances - all she did is basically push Lucy who was townread by 10 players out of 13 iirc

Farkran · Post Post #4738 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:35 pm

Chara would you vote alisae with us if you townread skitter atm?

Also why do you townread skitter again? I mean from on your 4716 you seem to be metareading her as town based on a lack of "elegance" but wouldn't you agree that this behavior is scummy in a meta vacuum?

innocentvillager · Post Post #4739 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:16 am

Vote count 2.2

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-03-30 16:20:40).

elimination

1. skitter30 [1]:

Luca Blight#4685

2. Farkran [4]:

Menalque#4368, skitter30#4479, Something_Smart#4630, LegoLucy#4669

3. Alisae [3]:

Day#4615, Farkran#4620, NorwegianboyEE#4655

5. Chara [0]:

6. Luca Blight [0]:

7. NorwegianboyEE [0]:

8. Menalque [0]:

9. LegoLucy [0]:

11. Ydrasse [0]:

12. Day [0]:

13. Something_Smart [0]:

no elimination [0]:

Not Voting [3]:

Chara, Ydrasse, Alisae#4589

mod notes

Spoiler: traditional vc

Spoiler: vote log

Luca Blight · Post Post #4740 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:24 am

I’m voting Skitter @Mod

-sorry fixed

Luca Blight · Post Post #4741 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:35 am

I’m getting Town pings from Farkran’s recent posts. I feel uncomfortable with how his lim is being pushed tbh

If it came down to it I’d vote Ali but I have more confidence in my Skitter read

Luca Blight · Post Post #4742 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:38 am

I don’t know what to make of Lucy anymore. Her current wishy-washy stance makes me feel uneasy given her vote seems of particular importance in this stand-off

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #4743 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:04 am

I’ve just got a job and i’m really happy about it. I’ve been mostly living like a bum these recent months. Spending my time just playing mafia until 2 AM. But now i might get some proper sleeping rhytm and less free time overall. So my activity levels will likely take a toll as an result. Just FYI. I’ll still keep up and play this game obviously.

Menalque · Post Post #4744 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:08 am

Just finished a scumgame if anyone’s interested viewtopic.php?f=83&t=86045&start=575

Luca Blight · Post Post #4745 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:09 am

Congrats on the new job

I was just about to make a post saying I think the gamestate (as I understand it) implies you’re Town

Luca, Day, Chara, Farkran, Norwee, Menalque Town. Maybe Lucy? But not so confident rn

Scum in Skitter, SS, Ydrasse, Lucy, Ali

Menalque · Post Post #4746 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:09 am

Luca could u do me a solid and stop voting town ty

Menalque · Post Post #4747 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:11 am

God that PP lim was so trash lol

Luca Blight · Post Post #4748 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:12 am

Why is Skitter Town?

Please don’t give me the ‘she wouldn’t have killed Pooky’ BS

Menalque · Post Post #4749 (ISO) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:13 am

In post 4727, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4724, Luca Blight wrote:The line I heard earlier was that Menalque always Townbins Skitter until later in the game regardless?
This is the post I was going off of. Maybe I'm reading it as more confident than it is.
In post 4419, Menalque wrote:yah the idea that scum!skitt kills pooky N1 is kinda ridiculous imo

I think that even given the PR claim this is a weird kill for skitt to make

Like maaaaybe if her team really wanted it? But like pooky was probably not ever gonna vote skitter this game, and was a loud voice in favour of that

Look at how much easier the attempts to wagon her have been today vs yesterday