Open 807 | Town Win

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am grabbing this pagetop for Pengy

the best fucking partner anybody could ask for

here's to you bro <3

I will avenge you come hell or high water.

[Salsabil Faria]

702: Iirc, we played together before, and you were scumreaded because of your out-of-the-box method? If so, I still can't mind-meld with the thought you mentioned on this post, and getting TMI vibes tbh.

709: Agreed,

Artemiana

's Day 1 play was staged I believe, at least that part when she got caught and it was decided that she will be flipped no matter what.

719: Don't understand.

725: Don't agree with this part: "

always punish players who defend scum

". Before seeing the flip how will the town knows who is who here? Where scum is also trying to look townie to confuse, there will be always one/some real townies who will defend scum. If you always go after someone on the basis of defending scum only, the mafia can easily manipulate you there.

727, 728: good points.

732: Can you provide reason according to this: "

Mini, implosion, STD, Dunn are the people I'm looking at, roughly in that order

".

734: Reply on this: "

because I'm fairly sure the setup doesn't have scum pick town roles

". Scum can't pick town role ever, can't they?

Battle Mage

was talking about picking power roles, towns have PRs, scums have too. When scums have picked their PRs, the town will be granted some PRs too. Feeling like you're faking town-slipped.
"

Remember there might be a traitor

": Is it a slip too? Over all of the people, you should know the set-up pretty well.

738: For the reason you want to give

Minimegabyte

a day-pass here, the same reason could be applied for

Artemiana

(I'm talking about the scenario while she was on V/LA and didn't do anything particular townie like

Minimegabyte

atm, not after the shit play of her) in Day 1. It's a bit contradictory imo. Also, I agree that if

Minimegabyte

is the other scum here, then it's a town win and we can wait.

740: "

but on previous experience Salsabil can look pretty scummy as town

": Lol, people still get scum vibes from me even if I'm town, kind of getting used to it now

741: Thank you for your

Minimegabyte

case but I'm not a big fan of meta cause energy level keeps changing here, if you go through my completed games you'll understand. She is still on my null list.

743: Can you give your reasons?

Btw, I'm seeing

Battle_Mage

vs

Something_Smart

as TvT for now.

748: Hmmm...

752: Wait, there is a traitor, so there should be a recruiter? Cause not having a recruiter doesn't make sense to have a traitor

757: What's your read on

Dunnstral

?

766: Agreed on this part: "

We don't need to elim the traitor to win - elimming the last mafia wins us the game. So why would we ever focus on the traitor?

"

768: Agreed: "

I agree it's a good idea to bias yourself toward people who defended scum being scum, but it isn't a good reason fullstop on its own without context

".

770, 771: good points.

799: You're kind of a slightly bizarre

805: I didn't take

they/them

as offensive btw, I thought you forgot my pronoun there.

Before I forget,

UNVOTE: Almost50

VOTE: implosion

I have faith in my boss

PookyTheMagicalBear

.

815: I get lost in there: "

If we have a Neapolitan we have a clear
If we have a Follower/Jailkeeper we have a "soft-clear"
If we have a Doctor we have nothing

"

819: If the recruiter shot the traitor then they will be recruited, right? If so, then this will not be listed on the nk result? Cause if the nk result will be shown that the traitor has died then we all know they were recruited? That doesn't make sense
Also, if the traitor will not be recruited at all, on whose side they will be playing then if one of the scums is still alive?

820: Only in newbie games, mafias have day-talk?

824: Music to my ear.

827:

@Mod

, please clarify this (refer: 820). If it gets confirmed, then we can eliminate the traitor today over the scum also.

833: Point!

8454: As a matter of fact,

Dunnstral

himself was off-wagon

863: Salsabil Faria is my real name, you can use Faria (it's not my surname) as Salsabil is the large one. Not Sabil, please?

Well, after reading

MiniMegabyte

vs

Dunnstral

, I'm more sure

Dunnstral

is the scum here, if not then the traitor.

MiniMegabyte

looks townie here. Boss

PookyTheMagicalBear

, what do you think?

895, 897:

[Salsabil Faria]

Crap! I didn't realize 901 will be so big! Sorry in advance if anyone faces trouble reading
Btw,

implosion

is on E-2 I suppose, but my heart is telling me to vote

Dunnstral

.... say something boss

PookytheMagicalBear

, say something!

[Salsabil Faria]

Spoiler:

702: Iirc, we played together before, and you were scumreaded because of your out-of-the-box method? If so, I still can't mind-meld with the thought you mentioned on this post, and getting TMI vibes tbh.

709: Agreed,

Artemiana

's Day 1 play was staged I believe, at least that part when she got caught and it was decided that she will be flipped no matter what.

719: Don't understand.

725: Don't agree with this part: "

always punish players who defend scum

". Before seeing the flip how will the town knows who is who here? Where scum is also trying to look townie to confuse, there will be always one/some real townies who will defend scum. If you always go after someone on the basis of defending scum only, the mafia can easily manipulate you there.

727, 728: good points.

732: Can you provide reason according to this: "

Mini, implosion, STD, Dunn are the people I'm looking at, roughly in that order

".

734: Reply on this: "

because I'm fairly sure the setup doesn't have scum pick town roles

". Scum can't pick town role ever, can't they?

Battle Mage

was talking about picking power roles, towns have PRs, scums have too. When scums have picked their PRs, the town will be granted some PRs too. Feeling like you're faking town-slipped.
"

Remember there might be a traitor

": Is it a slip too? Over all of the people, you should know the set-up pretty well.

738: For the reason you want to give

Minimegabyte

a day-pass here, the same reason could be applied for

Artemiana

(I'm talking about the scenario while she was on V/LA and didn't do anything particular townie like

Minimegabyte

atm, not after the shit play of her) in Day 1. It's a bit contradictory imo. Also, I agree that if

Minimegabyte

is the other scum here, then it's a town win and we can wait.

740: "

but on previous experience Salsabil can look pretty scummy as town

": Lol, people still get scum vibes from me even if I'm town, kind of getting used to it now

741: Thank you for your

Minimegabyte

case but I'm not a big fan of meta cause energy level keeps changing here, if you go through my completed games you'll understand. She is still on my null list.

743: Can you give your reasons?

Btw, I'm seeing

Battle_Mage

vs

Something_Smart

as TvT for now.

748: Hmmm...

752: Wait, there is a traitor, so there should be a recruiter? Cause not having a recruiter doesn't make sense to have a traitor

757: What's your read on

Dunnstral

?

766: Agreed on this part: "

We don't need to elim the traitor to win - elimming the last mafia wins us the game. So why would we ever focus on the traitor?

"

768: Agreed: "

I agree it's a good idea to bias yourself toward people who defended scum being scum, but it isn't a good reason fullstop on its own without context

".

770, 771: good points.

799: You're kind of a slightly bizarre

805: I didn't take

they/them

as offensive btw, I thought you forgot my pronoun there.

Before I forget,

UNVOTE: Almost50

VOTE: implosion

I have faith in my boss

PookyTheMagicalBear

.

815: I get lost in there: "

If we have a Neapolitan we have a clear
If we have a Follower/Jailkeeper we have a "soft-clear"
If we have a Doctor we have nothing

"

819: If the recruiter shot the traitor then they will be recruited, right? If so, then this will not be listed on the nk result? Cause if the nk result will be shown that the traitor has died then we all know they were recruited? That doesn't make sense
Also, if the traitor will not be recruited at all, on whose side they will be playing then if one of the scums is still alive?

820: Only in newbie games, mafias have day-talk?

824: Music to my ear.

827:

@Mod

, please clarify this (refer: 820). If it gets confirmed, then we can eliminate the traitor today over the scum also.

833: Point!

8454: As a matter of fact,

Dunnstral

himself was off-wagon

863: Salsabil Faria is my real name, you can use Faria (it's not my surname) as Salsabil is the large one. Not Sabil, please?

Well, after reading

MiniMegabyte

vs

Dunnstral

, I'm more sure

Dunnstral

is the scum here, if not then the traitor.

MiniMegabyte

looks townie here. Boss

PookyTheMagicalBear

, what do you think?

895, 897:

EBWOP= 845: As a matter of fact,

Dunnstral

himself was off-wagon

[Rockhopper]

VC 2.1

Not voting (4):

Minimegabyte, Scipio1, Something_Smart, Almost50

Minimegabyte (2):

Dunnstral, implosion

implosion (4):

Battle Mage, Save The Dragons, PookytheMagicalBear, Salsabil Faria

(expired on 2021-04-05 02:51:02) until deadline

[Rockhopper]

The traitor takes over the factional kill if they become the last surviving member of the mafia.

[Something_Smart]

you can win as town white flag style by eliminating the other two players (and they get two power roles to work with).

@mod: no they don't

[Salsabil Faria]

VC 2.1

Not voting (5):

Minimegabyte, Scipio1, Something_Smart, PookytheMagicalBear, Almost50

Minimegabyte (2):

Dunnstral, implosion

implosion (3):

Battle Mage, Save The Dragons, Salsabil Faria

(expired on 2021-04-05 02:51:02) until deadline

You missed

PookyTheMagicalBear

's vote

Mod

.

are you voting implo then?

I should vote implo

VOTE: implosion

let's get this done

[Salsabil Faria]

you can win as town white flag style by eliminating the other two players (and they get two power roles to work with).

@mod: no they don't

Can't mods modify roles?

[Something_Smart]

Not mid-game...

[Salsabil Faria]

Btw, I'll be busy tomorrow, have an exam on Friday.

[Salsabil Faria]

The Mafia have 24 hours to select any of the follow modifications to be applied to the team (up to three) assigning which Goon or Traitor gets the additional abilities.

If I understand correctly, then the mafias know who the traitor is?

[Rockhopper]

you can win as town white flag style by eliminating the other two players (and they get two power roles to work with).

@mod: no they don't

Let me ask T-Bone to clarify.

VC 2.1

Not voting (5):

Minimegabyte, Scipio1, Something_Smart, PookytheMagicalBear, Almost50

Minimegabyte (2):

Dunnstral, implosion

implosion (3):

Battle Mage, Save The Dragons, Salsabil Faria

(expired on 2021-04-05 02:51:02) until deadline

You missed

PookyTheMagicalBear

's vote

Mod

.

are you voting implo then?

I should vote implo

VOTE: implosion

let's get this done

Thank you, edited.

[Salsabil Faria]

Also, mafias don't have a recruiter by default, now I'm understanding the set-up.

[Rockhopper]

The Mafia have 24 hours to select any of the follow modifications to be applied to the team (up to three) assigning which Goon or Traitor gets the additional abilities.

If I understand correctly, then the mafias know who the traitor is?

Nope

[Salsabil Faria]

The Mafia have 24 hours to select any of the follow modifications to be applied to the team (up to three) assigning which Goon or Traitor gets the additional abilities.

If I understand correctly, then the mafias know who the traitor is?

@Mod

, can you clear this also please?

[Something_Smart]

Lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

SS townbinned for trying to nerf the mafia team midgame lololololol

[Salsabil Faria]

because recruiting the traitor still means that they're failing to kill a townie that night, something that really matters given the town roles.)

Ok, so from the Day 1 nk, it proves that the traitor wasn't recruited, got it now too.

[Salsabil Faria]

Spoiler:

[Salsabil Faria]

The Mafia have 24 hours to select any of the follow modifications to be applied to the team (up to three) assigning which Goon or Traitor gets the additional abilities.

If I understand correctly, then the mafias know who the traitor is?

Nope

Thanks!

[Rockhopper]

The traitor takes over the factional kill if they become the last surviving member of the mafia.

This has been confirmed by T-bone, we both did not realize that his statement in Post 9 contradicts post 0. I used the rules from the Stack the Deck wiki page, and the traitor does take over the factional kill according to the wiki. It can be addressed post game, but it can't be changed mid-game.

[Something_Smart]

._.

[Something_Smart]

That's literally the dumbest thing about Stack the Deck. This setup was supposed to be a fixed version of Stack the Deck :X

[implosion]

I would like Mini to respond to my case in some way since she responded to a whole lot of other stuff while she was here but didn't mention it.

S_S is probably town, yeah.

FYI I'm probably going to be effectively V/LA for... some amount of time. I'm getting my second covid shot later today (which is very good) but everyone claims side effects are bad. So we'll see.