Mini Number 2195 | Brutalism | GAME OVER

[VP Baltar]

I think this is the most likely slot to flip Scum out of everyone.

Why?

[Datisi]

+1

@dgb, who is scum?

[Andresvmb]

I think this is the most likely slot to flip Scum out of everyone.

Why?

I can’t imagine a game without them as Scum. There is a limited set of universes where the Neighborhood really is all of the Scum, and Datisi bussed Green Crayons with RLotus defending there. At the end of the day I do have some scars from early D2 that do give me some doubts about Datisi. I still very much think RLotus is the more likely of the pair to contain Scum (and now I’m completely convinced that there’s 1 Scum there), and I have you and Dunn as basically ride or die at this point. Frankly I don’t think DGB flips Scum either.

Mom has been more aggressively wrong, and GC had a lapse there where once I had them as possible Town and stopped pushing them after their Claim, and I shifted my attention to Mom, instead of supporting it they threw a question to me about it.

[Andresvmb]

Some distancing has arguably taken place, and Mom had RLotus and Me as the two potential Scum. So most of the signs in my head all point to RLotus of course. But I don’t want to hard lock it yet.

[Andresvmb]

Andres, Datisi, VP townbloc for the win. Rest of y'all got some 'splaining to do.

Momrangal I'm not sure on since the "GC flips town" thing was such a wild thing to say yesterday she could be town.

I was first on GC so why should I 'splain anything?

This however isn’t true. I was first there. I Unvoted only to not give the advantage to GC in taking advantage of any Town slips. But you don’t get to take credit as the first on the wagon.

[Andresvmb]

Btw maxwell also basically had their sights on {RLotus, Mom} from what I recall, so I think I’m good with either, but just trying to make sure I’m not missing anything.

[Andresvmb]

Eh no you know what, no.

VOTE: RLotus

[Andresvmb]

I think this is fine. RLotus’ reaction to being paired with GC as Scum was very interesting when they still had them as Town. I’m okay with this.

[Andresvmb]

datisi
DBG
GC
Dunn
VPB

Max

Lotus
Andres

That's about where I'm standing.

In my mind Max, lotus, Andre's makes the most sense. Max's play is as I already described but the way they defend GC is pretty top tier scum play especially if they are shutting down a theory that scumbuddy Andre's is pushing.

DBG and Dunn are town through how they are both playing and I think going after either of them has a massive amount of scum motivation because at this stage scum need to keep their options open.

The field looks about 3:6 and I thought I saw someone saying that we lose if we miseliminate today and I'm not sure where that came from.

I think we should have everyone else out though just so that we have clarity on what's going on. I think most of what's left is VTs anyway

This is so aggressively bad. How is this Town? And with that midwaybear hammer, I really think there’s no way at this point Mom flips Town. But hey I could be wrong.

[Andresvmb]

Yeah no okay I do think we should flip Mom first.

VOTE: Momrangal

[Andresvmb]

Sorry for being spastic there.

[VP Baltar]

Updating this post with new info and my own personal assumption that Datisi and Andres are both town. Let's see what comes out.

Let's look at some vote counts and see what stands out. For reference, here are all the replacements first.

Player List:
(Harumi Ayasato) maxwell
Green Crayons
(Lunar Martian) midwaybear
Reformed Toxic Player
(Testarossa) (Battle Mage) Momrangal
Andresvmb
(Elements) DrippingGoofball
ItalianoVD
VP Baltar
Datisi
Dunnstral
(Duchess) Cookie Monster
RLotus

Harumi Ayasato

(4):

Green Crayons

, Testarossa,

Duchess

, Elements
Elements (2): Dunnstral, RLotus

VP Baltar

(2):

Andresvmb

,

Italiano

Datisi

(2):

Reformed Toxic Player

,

Lunar Martian

RLotus (1):

Harumi Ayasato

Reformed Toxic Player

(1):

VP Baltar

Duchess

(1):

Datisi

Duchess

(5):

Datisi

,

Green Crayons

,

ItalianoVD, Reformed Toxic Player

, Elements
Elements (2): Dunnstral, Lotus

Harumi Ayasato

(1): Testarossa
Green Crayons (1):

Duchess

Reformed Toxic Player

(1):

VP Baltar

ItalianoVD

(1):

Harumi Ayasato

VP Baltar

(1):

Andresvmb

Datisi

(1):

Lunar Martian

Dunnstral (4):

VP Baltar

,

midwaybear

,

Green Crayons

,

Datisi

ItalianoVD

(3): Harumi Ayasato, RLotus,

Reformed Toxic Player

Harumi Ayasato

(2): Testarossa, Elements
Elements (2):

Andresvmb

,

Duchess

Green Crayons

(1):

ItalianoVD

Testarossa (1): Dunnstral

Elements (4):

Andresvmb

,

Duchess, Reformed Toxic Player

, Dunnstral

Reformed Toxic Player

(2): Battle Mage,

Datisi

midwaybear

(1):

ItalianoVD

ItalianoVD

(1):

Harumi Ayasato

VP Baltar

(1): RLotus
RLotus (1):

VP Baltar

Elements (4): Dunnstral,

VP Baltar,

RLotus, Battle Mage

maxwell

(2): Elements,

Datisi

Reformed Toxic Player

(2):

Green Crayons

,

ItalianoVD

Green Crayons

(1):

maxwell

VP Baltar

(1):

Duchess

Duchess

(1):

Reformed Toxic Player

RLotus (1):

Andresvmb

ItalianoVD

(7):

Reformed Toxic Player

,

Datisi

, RLotus,

VP Baltar,

midwaybear

,

maxwell

,

ItalianoVD

<--EXECUTED

maxwell

(1):

Green Crayons

Green Crayons

(1):

Andresvmb

midwaybear

(1): Dunnstral
Elements (1): Battle Mage

VP Baltar

(1):

Duchess

RLotus (1): Elements

Dunn (5): RLotus,

VPB, Datisi,

Elements,

Green Crayons

midwaybear

(2): dunn,

maxwell

maxwell

(1): momrangal

Cookie Monster

(3): DrippingGoofball,

Andresvmb,

Green Crayons

Green Crayons

(2): Momrangal, Dunnstral

midwaybear

(2):

maxwell, VP Baltar

VP Baltar

(1):

Cookie Monster

Dunnstral (1):

Datisi

midwaybear

(5):

maxwell, VP Baltar, Datisi,

Dunnstral, DrippingGoofball

Cookie Monster

(2)

Green Crayons,

Cookie Monster

Green Crayons

(1):

Momrangal

VP Baltar (1): Andresvmb

midwaybear

(6):

VP Baltar, Datisi,

Dunnstral,

Andresvmb

,

Green Crayons,

Momrangal <-- EXECUTED
Dunnstral (2): RLotus,

maxwell

VP Baltar

(1): DrippingGoofball

Cookie Monster

(1):

Cookie Monster

[VP Baltar]

My gut says there is weird movement between Lotus and Dunn's votes this game. I also still think the Elements wagons are illustrative of SOMETHING, but I'm not entirely sure.

DGB, you want to run that post through the ol' scumputer and read me the dot matrix print out?

[VP Baltar]

Anyone else who has thoughts is welcome to comment of course.

[DrippingGoofball]

+1

@dgb, who is scum?

Mom

[DrippingGoofball]

Anyone who implied that GC was town by virtue of his role is suspect.

Anyone in the neighborhood who was not wary of GC is suspect.

[Andresvmb]

Basically, it is most likely Datisi/Dunn/DGB or GC/Dunn/DGB. Momrangal still needs to keep being evaluated of course, especially in a final 3 situation

This is the sort of weird solve that makes me thing RLotus is Scum. So regardless of whether they get their preferred execution in Datisi, or Green Crayons goes through, the rest of the Scum Team is DGB, Dunn either way? This is also in direct contradiction to Momrangal who refused to reevaluate DGB, and Dunn actually. See here:

And you're still ignoring the fact that my vote was in response to someone I was town reading


You're blowing my vote out of proportion. I feel like everything is being blown out of proportion when it comes to you.

You're a confident player, but you're also one who can admit when they are wrong. You can see two sides of every coin and I don't see an attempt to look at both sides to every slot you're looking at
It all feels black and white with you and I know for a fact that you are not a black and white player so what's going on?

Even in bears you were willing to talk to Norwee as if he had the potential to be town.

In bears you saw me lock-town DBG when everyone else was willing g to push it as scum.

I'm not going to reconsider my read on DBG or dunnstral this game so like, I don't know where else to look.

VPB doesn't make sense as scum with his overall play and everyone else makes no sense as scum with how they have all been approaching and playing the game so if you're town, tell me where I'm wrong because the game is going to be lost and I know you care about that enough to do an entire overhaul on the thread

[DrippingGoofball]

Duchess wagon (5) prob has an another scum on it.

[Andresvmb]

This is the sort of weird solve that makes me thing RLotus is Scum.

*makes me think

[VP Baltar]

Duchess wagon (5) prob has an another scum on it.

lol, you scum claiming. That's you silly!

[DrippingGoofball]

3266 is :goodposting: maybe I should reconsider.

[VP Baltar]

Unless you're saying Datisi is scum, which ... just don't think that's the case.

[DrippingGoofball]

Unless you're saying Datisi is scum, which ... just don't think that's the case.

I said "probably"

And that's looking at ONE wagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

Fatisi, Lotus, Baltar; one scum in this lot.

[DrippingGoofball]

Baltar, Datisi, Dunn; one scum in the lot.