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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:24 am

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In post 897, Datisi wrote:luca, you have some meta exp with outworld, no? (like at least the game modded by george if memory serves) any comment about that?
I just touched on that above

I’m reluctant to talk about it as I don’t want it to turn into a ‘meta-read’ as I think he’s scummy independently

But he’s nowhere near as Townie or genuine this game
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:25 am

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In post 896, Luca Blight wrote:I don’t really get why the Outworld wagon fell apart in favor of Umlaut

Outworld is posting exactly how I think scum typically post tbh and I’m reluctant to let go of that right now
I feel the same about Umlaut.

While I can admit that there may have been a few town pings, I don't understand why so many other wagons are forming in in retaliation to umlaut

I also don't think anyone else had actually joined the umlaut wagon, it's been sitting where it was for a long time
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:25 am

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In post 899, Infinity 324 wrote:Outworld can definitely be LHF, it just depends on the game
Or maybe he’s just scum

His posts haven’t been openly scummy or anything. Rathe is an example of lhf
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:27 am

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What is the actual case against Umlaut?
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:27 am

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VOTE: umlaut
It's going back to where it need to be but

DO NOT TALK TO ME

DO NOT TOUCH ME

DO NOT EVEN LOOK AT ME
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:30 am

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The only reason Outworld seems like lhf is because I called out his behavior early

I don’t think his reaction to pressure was townie either. He wants to fade into the background and it’s working atm
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:34 am

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In post 903, Luca Blight wrote:What is the actual case against Umlaut?
Alot of his pings came from early game and how he interacted with the people around it

Like, idk. He hasn't done any actual solving, or hasnt really tried to discern the alignments of other people. You looked at my post when I breifly talked about it and said it was probably "the towniest mara post ever"

Which... is kinda weird but whatever but didn't actually comment on it. I may not have given this game as much as I could (especially over the weekend and i dropped this game in favor of trying to get into the other normal) but what I did get when I read through is Umlaut hasnt done a whole lot but snipes on how they expected me to be conf bias town here.
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:35 am

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Incidentally I’ve just won a mini normal as Town where I was really invested and feel burnt out from that, which is the reason for my slow start in this game
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:38 am

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I thought your push on Umlaut was townie but I didn’t necessarily agree with it at the time

I’ll iso him and see what clicks. Please consider Outworld as well in the meantime
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:38 am

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In post 709, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t feel like I want to shoot myself reading Datisi’s early takes. So they’re Town.
In post 750, Andresvmb wrote:I actually think you’re not that hard to read. A bit harder to execute as Scum, perhaps, but somewhat transparent. I’ve liked your positioning so far. I think Ico is needlessly pushing misinformation about your slot.
btw andres i expect an elaboration about these now
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:38 am

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i need to make content before i get prodded
ill get to work on rereading
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:41 am

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Datisi, any reason you prefer Umlaut over Outworld?
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:42 am

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low hanging fruit and mafia aren't mutually exclusive
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:43 am

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In post 789, Iconeum wrote:If i hit 200 posts before anyone hits 100, i win the game yeah
Iconeum: 199 posts
Anya: 99 posts

The suspense is killing me
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:43 am

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nevermind fuck that
VOTE: Iconeum
completely changed my mind about how i feel about their reaction to anya's 'l-1 vote'
looks fake as fuck
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:44 am

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In post 911, Luca Blight wrote:Datisi, any reason you prefer Umlaut over Outworld?
mmm, frankly not sure i do. i have a feeling umlaut is playing kinda like scum who sees the game activity / direction is vaguely good for them, and doesn't really bother posting since, why would they?

ik i should actually read through their isos again maybe but it's difficult making calls when both of them insist on just Not Being Here and frankly i do not have the brain for it right now
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:45 am

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Zero chance Icon is limmed today

Umlaut and Outworld are good leads, let’s focus on them
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:45 am

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In post 38, Iconeum wrote:for the way they put you at L1, obviously

it's not about you specifically,
but coming in hot like that just smells like scum thinking they had an opportunity for lolhammer potential
while it reads genuine that bit smells like bullshit
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:45 am

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In post 914, esotericzoomer wrote:nevermind fuck that
VOTE: Iconeum
completely changed my mind about how i feel about their reaction to anya's 'l-1 vote'
looks fake as fuck
we're not hanging ico, pick someone else
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:46 am

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In post 916, Luca Blight wrote:Zero chance Icon is limmed today

Umlaut and Outworld are good leads, let’s focus on them
and just as i type that, luca posts this...

maybe... luca is town... after all...
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:46 am

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In post 839, LlamaFluff wrote:
In post 838, samantha97 wrote:what brought you to that conclusion for outworlder
Pretty sure ive said that already but its based on main points of

First OW is being pretty aggressive in calling players town, especially in scenarios where there is a lot going on. Think that early exchange where he came out of it with me, Dats and Inifity town. Later he essentially calls Icon town along with most of the players who are voting him (add Icon, Umulat and EZ to town reads). Im not sure how many scum, especially newer scum, back themselves into that type of a corner where seven different players are essentially off limits for them to vote halfway through the first day. Add it that most of the wagons or potential wagons are on players in that group as well and I think you have town. Scumhunting by town reading always feels like a town tell with newer players.

Second is his wagon which just throws up red flags for me. Luca is voting him because his reads are "fake" (which I obviously disagree with) and not expanding on what reads are fake/why they think so. I have no idea why Anya is voting him. EZ at least has the most reasoning (who has moved on too), but I think it takes a few timelines out of context. Then you are voting him on meta (?). Its a town read, and players that I have no read to slight scum reads on. Heading up a wagon that seems to have little if any actual reason to exist.

So yeah. OW is town for the way he is approaching the game and a very questionable push on him from others. Im calling OW town right now.
ftr i havent changed my mind on ow
i just think your point on them narrowing their targets down has merit, if the nk's are only their townreads then thats a different story
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:47 am

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In post 916, Luca Blight wrote:Zero chance Icon is limmed today

Umlaut and Outworld are good leads, let’s focus on them
both wagons look like shit
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:48 am

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Well have fun on your vanity wagon

You have to learn to compromise. What’s so shit about them?
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:48 am

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lol who is scum on the wagons, zoomer?
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:49 am

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umlaut is maybe a fine wagon but the problem is i dont scumread him
at worst hes null

i hopped off ow because llama made good points and i didnt feel comfortable joining hands with my two weakest townleans
and of course the umlaut wagon has icon

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