Micro 1002: Dark Waltz III - Game Over!

[Noraa]

I think both of them like to TR each other just in general.
The fact that both are SRing each other, which I have never seen before, I think is a sign that there is 1 scum there.

[Noraa]

right now it boils down to, in essence, 1 of sans + hatters/harley which is like... expected, probaby?

why does it boil down to this?

[Ydrasse]

right now it boils down to, in essence, 1 of sans + hatters/harley which is like... expected, probaby?

why does it boil down to this?

did you read... any of my post?

[Ydrasse]

like i literally explain myself in that post if i typed that wall for nothing i'm going feral

[Noraa]

right now it boils down to, in essence, 1 of sans + hatters/harley which is like... expected, probaby?

why does it boil down to this?

did you read... any of my post?

yeah I read all of it.

[Noraa]

I think you marked off a lot of people in super simple ways. And the way your wall goes makes it seem like you're trying to justify a future SR on me. Frankly I find Sans more scummy than you atm which is why I think he is the scum in the pair of you but I could totally see you being the scum..

[Ydrasse]

okay so why ask me that question then when the answers are in there

i think you/unwnd are town

i think that sans behavior makes him scummier (and i have like, one caveat to that that i included), so it's him and then one of the other two

if you want like, barebones little-explanation

[Ydrasse]

I think you marked off a lot of people in super simple ways. And the way your wall goes makes it seem like you're trying to justify a future SR on me. Frankly I find Sans more scummy than you atm which is why I think he is the scum in the pair of you but I could totally see you being the scum..

...??? i literally explained that, earlier in the game, i found you scummy for other reasons that i've moved away from now, and those reasons are also ones born out of frustration which make them less solid

[Sans Undertale]

heh. my plan to bring down town!ydrasse with me is working.

[Ydrasse]

like i'm sitting here saying "noraa is town" and there's no room in there for you to be scum now, it was an explanation of my progression of you FROM scum to town

[Noraa]

Also your read on me is super strange.
You say everyone else thought I was town which was obvious which you didn't see.
But you point out that scummy people are asking to dance with me.
you do really that it is those exact scummy people who have been the most certain I am town?
if that is all the case, what's going on here?
If all the scummy are TRing me and the only town in the set, you, is SRing me, by your strange flawed logic does that make everyone scum except for you?
.........Noraa moonlogic.

[Ydrasse]

heh. my plan to bring down town!ydrasse with me is working.

i love you but i hate you right now and my heart is breaking

[Sans Undertale]

it's okay, it doesn't have to be you, bud. as long as i'm paired with any town then i'm happy. just don't pair me with my scum buddy.

[Noraa]

i think you/unwnd are town

one problem is that I don't see how anyone has a read on unwnd. Unwnd is a tiny question mark at best and huge giant question mark at worst. I have zero read on unwnd. They could flip self aligned fruit vendor and I wouldn't be surprised.

[Ydrasse]

Also your read on me is super strange.
You say everyone else thought I was town which was obvious which you didn't see.
But you point out that scummy people are asking to dance with me.
you do really that it is those exact scummy people who have been the most certain I am town?
if that is all the case, what's going on here?
If all the scummy are TRing me and the only town in the set, you, is SRing me, by your strange flawed logic does that make everyone scum except for you?
.........Noraa moonlogic.

i find you immensely frustrating to play with and i am prone to scumreading your behavior despite everyone else thinking it's town (literally JUST PLAYED A GAME WHERE THIS HAPPENED)

and... yes? you attack people who scumread you in games, and you have fun/try to go with people (in general, not all the time) who you like, from what i've seen? i think that peopl are going to try to pocket you rather than fight you because you are stupidly stubborn and will go kicking and screaming, and what they want is for you to do that to someone else like you did it to oka this game

[Ydrasse]

i think you/unwnd are town

one problem is that I don't see how anyone has a read on unwnd. Unwnd is a tiny question mark at best and huge giant question mark at worst. I have zero read on unwnd. They could flip self aligned fruit vendor and I wouldn't be surprised.

did you read the interactions that koba and unwnd had? those sorts of attacks/interactions don't happen between people who are partnered, they're too... aggressively personal for scum to really go after, to put it lightly

(i still think that it was uhhh a bit out of line but it happened so, i get to read it)

[Ydrasse]

it's okay, it doesn't have to be you, bud. as long as i'm paired with any town then i'm happy. just don't pair me with my scum buddy.

so now you DON'T want to dance with me?

you're hurting me so much

[Sans Undertale]

i'm merely a spectator at this point, ydrasse. just here to enjoy the show and fireworks. i'd be happy to backflip with you if you ever change your mind.

[Noraa]

i find you immensely frustrating to play with and i am prone to scumreading your behavior despite everyone else thinking it's town (literally JUST PLAYED A GAME WHERE THIS HAPPENED)

and... yes? you attack people who scumread you in games, and you have fun/try to go with people (in general, not all the time) who you like, from what i've seen? i think that peopl are going to try to pocket you rather than fight you because you are stupidly stubborn and will go kicking and screaming, and what they want is for you to do that to someone else like you did it to oka this game

I am an immensely frustrating person to play with. I have always been a total wildcard that flips at her own will with zero warning. I play with my heart and not my brain. Nothing stops my gut and my gut is not always right. You don't have to play with me if you don't want to. Just tell me and I'll steer clear of your games.

Oka tunneled me far before I tunneled them so if you want to blame someone, that someone shouldn't be me.

[Ydrasse]

dancin' with you
dancin' dancin' with you

[Ydrasse]

i find you immensely frustrating to play with and i am prone to scumreading your behavior despite everyone else thinking it's town (literally JUST PLAYED A GAME WHERE THIS HAPPENED)

and... yes? you attack people who scumread you in games, and you have fun/try to go with people (in general, not all the time) who you like, from what i've seen? i think that peopl are going to try to pocket you rather than fight you because you are stupidly stubborn and will go kicking and screaming, and what they want is for you to do that to someone else like you did it to oka this game

I am an immensely frustrating person to play with. I have always been a total wildcard that flips at her own will with zero warning. I play with my heart and not my brain. Nothing stops my gut and my gut is not always right. You don't have to play with me if you don't want to. Just tell me and I'll steer clear of your games.

Oka tunneled me far before I tunneled them so if you want to blame someone, that someone shouldn't be me.

i am saying this to you as respectfully as i can right now, because i don't think this is the time or place to have this conversation, but i think having a bit more empathy at times when you play with people will go wonders in getting results/fine-tuning your gut, we can talk more abt this another time

and you could have disengaged or tried to think objectively, because you were saying you wanted to kill him even if he was town, which i don't think is uh... great logic, imo idk

like i said not time / place

[Noraa]

did you read the interactions that koba and unwnd had? those sorts of attacks/interactions don't happen between people who are partnered, they're too... aggressively personal for scum to really go after, to put it lightly

I did read them. I don't think it's outside of a scum partner possibility?
If Flava and I were scum, I am certain we could pull off a huge shitfight. Not the preferred scum theater, clearly. But I don't think it's impossible?

[Ydrasse]

did you read the interactions that koba and unwnd had? those sorts of attacks/interactions don't happen between people who are partnered, they're too... aggressively personal for scum to really go after, to put it lightly

I did read them. I don't think it's outside of a scum partner possibility?
If Flava and I were scum, I am certain we could pull off a huge shitfight. Not the preferred scum theater, clearly. But I don't think it's impossible?

it's more the fact that koba actually took the step to rep out which means that it was unplanned? unless they were having a lot of fighting/friction behind the scenes, i don't think that they intended to have that sort of interaction at all and it would have been resolved privately between them

like i guess sure, yeah, maybe it could be s/s but that's 1/1000 for me to actually be a thing this game personally

[Noraa]

mmm I suppose. My problem with unwnd is that I KNOW that unwnd can be one of the most obvtown people in the world.
But in all of their recent games, they have chosen specifically not to.
And I have a hard time reading their current play style.

[Ydrasse]

i think that that might be explained by unwnd feeling out of place in this sort of setup which he said early on was the case, but you can ask him too