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[Something_Smart]

I guess this is Townie given Infinity's wagon was competing with Llama's at that point?

yep

[Luca Blight]

can you all promise to not wait until deadline tomorrow cause this is definitely gonna be a town lynch no matter who it is

This is weird given you then vote a PR claim

If you really believed this then you'd have insisted on limming the VT claim (who you SR btw) instead of a PR clam D1

[Infinity 324]

I'm sort of curious what led you to meta me as town, my meta seems like it would be pretty hard to derive patterns from, and I don't have a ton of recent scumgames

@samantha, so you don't miss it

[LlamaFluff]

I guess this is Townie given Infinity's wagon was competing with Llama's at that point?

yep

Exactly. Seems really odd for scum to try and call a possible bluff there. Infinity is more on the OW level of town to me where it just doesnt fit well. Cant see them have made that move as scum unless they were convinced it was best survival move, and im not sure where that read would have come from.

Luca/Dats town
Infinity/OW probably town

Maybe we just break this open with town reads.

[OutWorldER]

I had less time than I thought to ISO dive the people I said I would today, but I did it.
S_S's replace in looks less than stellar. I feel like a town slot that was put into that situation (replacing in while there's mere hours left in deadline) would probably be more panicked? He was fairly nonchalant about the whole EOD thing, and the same was said about Zoomer before he replaced out I believe.

Llama's ISO is still fine? Like, I almost think it's almost obvtown. He starts fairly cagey with his reads with lots of questioning and prodding and when it seems he has a solid grip on the game he starts to be more transparent with his reads and thought process in general. It's natural progression. I don't know why he was ever a wagon.

I did go back and review Student Council to see what was pinging me and the answer is that while the general vibe I get is similar to Student Council the playstyle has changed a little bit in ways I'm having trouble articulating. She seems less, focused?, is the word I want to say, and I'm not really able to describe why that's the word that comes to mind. The ISO itself has very little I'd consider to be scum-motivated. Her Llama reasoning (as described in [post=1951]1951[/post), while I disagree, is a stance I could see one taking on Llama. I disagree mostly because it's the kind of behavior I can see myself and other town doing to try and push something you want.

I can be here for like 2 hours but after that I'm

V/LA until Wednesday

because I have to prepare/take my driver's license test.

[Luca Blight]

jesus christ it's 6 hours away and we're still switching wagons?

I hate all three of these choices.

Of them, I hate Rathe lim the least

VOTE: Rathe

I really dislike how Outworld pops in here after not posting for ages, criticizes the table at large for having not decided a lim yet when he's done very little himself, and distances himself from taking responsibility for any of the lims on the table. He then disappears again and doesn't post again until D2

Llama, thoughts on this?

pedit: speak of the devil

[OutWorldER]

My limpool for today is {Samantha, S_S, Umlaut} in order of preference. Sam and S_S for reasons already stated and Umlaut because my TR's are on that wagon and I'm mostly null on that slot.

[Something_Smart]

replacing in while there's mere hours left in deadline

eh? wasn't there like 36 hours left when I replaced in?

[Something_Smart]

actually I think it was closer to 48

[Infinity 324]

She seems less, focused?, is the word I want to say, and I'm not really able to describe why that's the word that comes to mind.

You're right, it has to do with my spottier motivation to play mafia recently

In jk9++ for example I was less focused than I am here

[Luca Blight]

anyone else concerned at how rathe has like 10+ people who voted him and there are 3 mafia

Yes, I was indeed concerned about that

It really sucks that someone would then quickhammer Rathe after he claimed a tpr, right?

[Luca Blight]

town mailman enabler

One fucking minute later

VOTE: rathe

Damn, that infuriates me

Maybe Samantha is just scum here, that looks so opportunistic. Scum would know there is a potentially strong Mailman who will be made redundant by this move, and she votes so fast before anyone can unvote or even think about it

[Luca Blight]

luca please tell me you also saw it

I think I know what you're talking about now btw

[samantha97]

@samantha, so you don't miss it

only remember my conclusion, but it had to be something cause I put you above everyone else

[samantha97]

It really sucks that someone would then quickhammer Rathe after he claimed a tpr, right?

do enablers get given to mafia

if yes stop crying about it

[Luca Blight]

And then she unvotes to act all innocent, but clearly she knew that was the hammer

I'll unvote I guess just in case that wasn't it UNVOTE:

but ya I think these kind of enabler roles are usually given to mafia

[Luca Blight]

It really sucks that someone would then quickhammer Rathe after he claimed a tpr, right?

do enablers get given to mafia

if yes stop crying about it

Do enablers get given to Town?

If yes then stfu

[Something_Smart]

Luca:

I think most of us can agree Samantha’s opinions have zero significance

Including, then, samantha's opinion on whether hammering Rathe was a reasonable town thing to do?

[Luca Blight]

SS, she is either scum or clueless town, based on that hammer and her general play and nonsensical/illogical reads

So her opinion has zero worth to me either way

[Luca Blight]

I'm leaning more towards scum seeing how quickly she hammered that, it seemed very opportunistic

[Something_Smart]

Do you think there's a chance that she as town would not have been so clueless?

[LlamaFluff]

jesus christ it's 6 hours away and we're still switching wagons?

I hate all three of these choices.

Of them, I hate Rathe lim the least

VOTE: Rathe

I really dislike how Outworld pops in here after not posting for ages, criticizes the table at large for having not decided a lim yet when he's done very little himself, and distances himself from taking responsibility for any of the lims on the table. He then disappears again and doesn't post again until D2

Llama, thoughts on this?

Its a little odd but not out of character read wise. They had already called me town and appeared to lean infinity town. I think if you want to try and say someone conveniently changed reads there are a few others who did a bigger swing. Sure it happened, but I think if you just read what OW had said to that point, out of the three it seems likely where the vote would go. Either he set that up alarmingly well, or regardless of alignment he followed expectations.

@Luca - It almost seems to be encroaching into the "Too dumb for scum" territory, but we probably could do worse.

[samantha97]

I'm leaning more towards scum seeing how quickly she hammered that, it seemed very opportunistic

your reads are what are opportunistic, except you don't realize there is no opportunity

I sure wanted to disable mailmen when I was coasting just fine socially

really 500 iq day 1 mafia play; night kills aren't a thing

[Luca Blight]

Do you think there's a chance that she as town would not have been so clueless?

I think there's a chance she could be town or scum as I said.

The lightning speed with which she hammered that before anyone could even consider it let alone unvote seems scum-indicative rather than town-indicative though for sure

[samantha97]

it was deliberately fast since I knew people would unvote