Micro 1002: Dark Waltz III - Game Over!

[Noraa]

Mom and hatters as nulls is alright. The scum read will be firebringer

[Noraa]

if we wanna throw Oka in instead of either mom and hatters, I'd be down.

[Noraa]

Mom and hatters as nulls is alright. The scum read will be firebringer

that's fine.

the problem is that I like both hatters and mom so don't want them to dieeeeeee :<

[Noraa]

Mom and hatters as nulls is alright. The scum read will be firebringer

that's fine.

the problem is that I like both hatters and mom so don't want them to dieeeeeee :<

that's why we throw Oka in.

[Noraa]

part of the painful part is having to kill friends sometimes

I tend to be wrong on friends is the problem.

[Noraa]

part of the painful part is having to kill friends sometimes

I tend to be wrong on friends is the problem.

and then I feel bad.

[Noraa]

whereas if I get a stranger killed and I was wrong, I wouldn't care as much lol

[Noraa]

hey, take it easy, oka. you've gotten a ton of work done today. a skele-ton.

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[Noraa]

hey, take it easy, oka. you've gotten a ton of work done today. a skele-ton.

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wanna hear another one? never mind, i don't have the guts to tell it.

imma kik you, hectic.

[Noraa]

uh no.

propose to sans and harley

[Noraa]

actually

propose to sans and unwnd

[Noraa]

The problem is that the steam dissipated a while ago so doing that is just a dumb idea all around at this point.

[Noraa]

fire i can gift u noraa a pt with you where you can bully her to the end of days

I think Noraa’s town.

Propose Noraa, Sans

accept

[Noraa]

Elaborate.

she's been scummy lately as town. thats all.

[Noraa]

under normal circumstances, I would've repped in on an alt simply because I'm generally more emotionally happy. I made this acception because I thought it would be kinda funny if I repped in.

Aaron was originally going to be an open alt of mine but I figured I'd have some fun and spice things up.

[Noraa]

I can't spell
*exception

[Noraa]

I am already obvtown with my fiery passion.

I still can’t believe you were Aaron.

Prior to this game, Aaron's signature was "Noraa backwards is Aaron"
I changed it right before the game lol

[Noraa]

That was not a lie, I do TR Nancy now.
You were scummy because I felt you didnt back up your reads but your insistence and stubbornness that you are right I am inclined to TR.

Please call me Harley, I didn’t want this outed, that goes for everyone and I’m really upset about this. :/

Sorries. Aaron was a bit pissy at you so he decided to out you O_O

[Noraa]

Clearly I have nothing to do with that, Harley. I am but an innocent bystander

[Noraa]

I am already obvtown with my fiery passion.

I still can’t believe you were Aaron.

Prior to this game, Aaron's signature was "Noraa backwards is Aaron"
I changed it right before the game lol

heh.

that's actually pretty good.

I learned my alting skills from my master, hectic. You have taught me well.

[Noraa]

i literally get shitpushed at the beginning of this game for trying to have fun and i end up dying with that same slot

Very Cool!

i’m not going in that deathpool.

Now you understand my pain XD
That bird doesn't speak a word of logic. Even less logic than me. And I dont work off logic at all.

[Noraa]

But you did it to me, why?

You KNOW how I feel about that. I’m not sure I want to play anymore. How could you do this to me? :/

I sorry
I was very mads :<
I won't do it next time.

[Noraa]

I promise I won't do it next time. Also no one heard anything.
Harley Quinn is a fleathemagicianmomrangalnoraaaaronhecticydrassehopkirkpookymorningpenguinpoweruntrodreckmurderinfinityitaliano alt.
y'all hear that?

[Noraa]

No one heard anything this game and if anyone speaks of it outside if here, they get the ten frying pan bonk treatment.

[Noraa]

I dont collect frying pans as a joke. I with bonk you hard with any one of them. Sans can attest to how painful they are.

[Noraa]

im locking in fire/noraa/mom

harley you okay with not leaving on unwnd and hatters?

No and I might still leave regardless. I’m uberpissed at Noraa for outing me. How many Discord convos have we had about this @Noraa?

I’m okay with Hatter, like how many times do I need to say this?

not very many actually but yeah, I'm sorry boo.

[Noraa]

im locking in fire/noraa/mom

harley you okay with not leaving on unwnd and hatters?

I’m not okay with this ftr. I’m absolutely furious with Noraa but she’s still town.

[Noraa]

Harleyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Noraa]

Harley ILYSM
forgive me pls :<<<
I'll never do it again
pinkie swear
if I ever do it again, I'll tell you all of my stealth alts that I have refused to ever tell anyone

[Noraa]

Harley...

[Noraa]

HARLEY :<
HARLEYYYYYYYYYY ;(

[Noraa]

You are flavorleafchurroselementsgeorgebaileydatisijohnnyfarrarkannadostinxofelf
ples forgives

[Noraa]

like ydrasse i am tired of this game, im so tired of trying to reiterate the same concepts over and over only for noraa to take potshots at me and i can't respond because last time i quoted a noraa post i got called toxic like i don't know

so much AtE but I feel more emotion for this game and any game that I am in than you ever will.

[Noraa]

why are you making those sort of comments to him? he doesnt deserve that at all

I haven't said anything to him recently. it has consistently been him telling everyone about how much of a victim he is when I shut up long ago.

[Noraa]

..... hatters being kinda reasonable ..........

Yeah. What do you make of Oka? Like it’s so bad he wants to kill Noraa. Even if I leave, it’s a terrible decision.

okas town and literally none of you are getting that and idk how you think he’s scum at this point after everything he’s tried to do

hey, take it easy, oka. you've gotten a ton of work done today. a skele-ton.

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hey, take it easy, oka. you've gotten a ton of work done today. a skele-ton.

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wanna hear another one? never mind, i don't have the guts to tell it.

imma kik you, hectic.

more recent posts that you have made about me that basically amount to you implying im useless thank you

I mean you're overthinking. I said that solely because of the skele-ton part so like ... lol?

[Noraa]

oka, it’s genuinely not worth your emotional energy to engage with her. i promise

no one told him to? he asked me to stop. I stopped. then he decides to bring it back. I cannot be blamed for this.

[Noraa]

propose to Harley and Hatters

Accept

that ones like expired or something.

[Noraa]

actually

propose to harley and ydrasse

Oh okay, I can accept this as well.

accept

this ones ... also expired O_O

[Noraa]

I'm fine with fire bringer going with ydrasse and oka.

[Noraa]

as the death pool.

[Noraa]

Noraa, sans, ydra is not a pt I want.

[Noraa]

as town? probably

i don't think ydrasse gets this emotional over it as scum

I dont think ydrasse has actually gotten emotional to a point where it cant be faked. I dont actually see much emotion personally...

[Noraa]

as town? probably

i don't think ydrasse gets this emotional over it as scum

I dont think ydrasse has actually gotten emotional to a point where it cant be faked. I dont actually see much emotion personally...

she doesn't fake emotion as either alignment, she'll utilise it, but won't fake it

hm. does she get emotional as scum? if yes, dang thats impressive. I dont have any emotions when I'm scum...

[Noraa]

So I like Harley, Firebringer, Ydrasse as solid town.
Hatters, Mom and unwnd are the next tier
the bottom tier is Sans and Oka.
So I suggest we kill off the lowest poster in the middle tier, unwnd with sans and oka.
The rest we can just mix up however much we want

I’m iffy on Fire but if you don’t like Hatter, I could do you/Ydrasse?

I dont think ydrasse wants to be in a pt with me and I'm not exactly wanting a pt with her anyways.

[Noraa]

Noraa, Harley, Hatters
Mom, fire doggo, Ydrasse
death pool

Me likey.

Propose Noraa, Hatter

I want sans as well tho.

[Noraa]

PHASE IV DEADLINE

(expired on 2021-04-04 04:00:00)

Game Event:

Deaderpool has chosen to leave the dance:

Spoiler: Results:

Momrangal, a

Townie

Left the Dance in Phase II
OkaPoka, a

Townie

Left the Dance in Phase II
Firebringer, a

Mafia

Left the Dance in Phase II[/spoiler]

FIREBRINGER YOU FOOLED ME GOOD. HOW DARE YOU BREAK MY HEART LIKE THIS. I WILL NEVER FORGIVES

[Noraa]

okay so, full disclosure: i wasn’t active during the night phase for this game, but harley and sans were in our pt

sans had his lowest read as fire, and then hatters, and then me. however, he was trying to convince me and harley to vote out hatters/unwnd/noraa despite having a very firm read on fire

his logic was that fire’s group had only fire as scum, which he seemed sure of, and then either unwnd or hatters could be scum, or me and harley

which is fine in theory, he’s right that it’s 1-2 per group, but given he leans me and harley as scum, i dont get why in the night he spent time trying to appeal to us to vote out the unwnd/hatters/noraa group when he seems more certain today that it’s me and harley

harley seemed skeptical of it and she wasn’t really biting, and like i said i wasn’t around to interact with him, but given the fact that that was his push all night, i’m pretty sure he’s mafia

this looks dumb since he posted before me but i already had this in mind all morning and this was the first time i could post it

I told my group I wanted to vote your group out just saying.

[Noraa]

i was sure on mara and oka being town and didn't think Harley and Ydrasse were both scum. that's why i pushed for clannad.

is this where I pull a spooky and say you are mirroring my read on your group? I said it in the hydra thread that FB's group had max 1 scum, I didn't believe both Hatters and unwnd were scum so I thought we should vote you guys out.

[Noraa]

i was sure on mara and oka being town and didn't think Harley and Ydrasse were both scum. that's why i pushed for clannad.

is this where I pull a spooky and say you are mirroring my read on your group? I said it in the hydra thread that FB's group had max 1 scum, I didn't believe both Hatters and unwnd were scum so I thought we should vote you guys out.

Like everyone remembers me saying that in the public thread yeah?

[Noraa]

also, i want to double check Later on when exactly sans started townreading noraa and whether or not it was before or after she started thinking he was scummy for not tring her

heh.

i thought aaron was towny before i knew it was noraa for the way he was playing. once noraa replaced in, i continued to think the slot was towny but with even more confidence.

You see the problem is that I found you scummy a while ago.
When Aaron was largely null/scumlean, you chose to TR him but once it gained traction you flipped to an SR with the reasoning of "well I think ur town but if ur not gonna work with us, you can die"
and the more I thought about it, the more I didn't like it. When did hectic ever use such a ... bad(honestly speaking) tactic to sort people??
non cooperating is NAI in every single way.

[Noraa]

When you TRed him for his read on Ydra, I figured you realized it was me, Noraa so you TRed me. but the flip to SR was so so so weak.
Sans is towny for everything EXCEPT this flip.

[Noraa]

Propose Noraa

. Sorry Hatter but I already pissed her off enough by not accepting her dance request.

@Hectic, you were right.

I will put out all of the stops to make things right with her: I’m really glad Deader left since I really did think Fire had the best chance of flipping scum.

<3

[Noraa]

When you TRed him for his read on Ydra, I figured you realized it was me, Noraa so you TRed me. but the flip to SR was so so so weak.
Sans is towny for everything EXCEPT this flip.

i never scumread aaron, i still thought he was towny when i was fine with him dying because he was being difficult to work with

The problem is that I never see town Hectic caving in a read like that.

[Noraa]

See I can see hectic frustrated with such a person but I feel like hectic wouldn't be like "ok its fine to yeet them"
I feel like hectic would be like "I think thats town" and also argue why as to prevent a mislim.

[Noraa]

I do not think hectic would like make it his life obligation to keep this person alive. Like no, obviously not. But I think he'd at least give it a shot.

[Noraa]

I suppose thats fair. I haven't played with you in a hot while anyways. Lets take a look at some meta shall we?

[Noraa]

... page top I see?

comment on content please

[Noraa]

Have patience, my Queen.

I have none.

[Noraa]

1 day left
hmm.

[Noraa]

problem is that I kinda scum read everyone atm.

[Noraa]

I don't know who to trust.

[Noraa]

I legitimately scum read every. single. person here a small amount.

[Noraa]

do you think even the worst person can change. . . ?
that everybody can be a good person, if they just try?

in terms of life, yes.
in terms of mafia, unless the mod is bastard, no.

[Noraa]

i've told you who i think the two sinners are, it's up to you now to see what you wanna do. trust and dance with them... believe in redemption... or send them straight to hell. i'll be here either way.

I don't remember who you said.

[Noraa]

I think sans and ydra should pair and we should vote them out. The reason is that I'm pretty sure there's one scum there. They are both scum reading each other and the whole game state basically just requires one of them to be scum.
They have played enough games with each other as two town and made everyone think they were masons or something. The fact that neither is town reading the other here is a 90% indication that most likely 1 of them is scum here.

[Noraa]

the rest of the groups don't matter since if we get a death pool decided, other groups would only have 1 scum which we'll have time in the next phase to sort.

[Noraa]

I think both of them like to TR each other just in general.
The fact that both are SRing each other, which I have never seen before, I think is a sign that there is 1 scum there.

[Noraa]

right now it boils down to, in essence, 1 of sans + hatters/harley which is like... expected, probaby?

why does it boil down to this?

[Noraa]

right now it boils down to, in essence, 1 of sans + hatters/harley which is like... expected, probaby?

why does it boil down to this?

did you read... any of my post?

yeah I read all of it.

[Noraa]

I think you marked off a lot of people in super simple ways. And the way your wall goes makes it seem like you're trying to justify a future SR on me. Frankly I find Sans more scummy than you atm which is why I think he is the scum in the pair of you but I could totally see you being the scum..

[Noraa]

Also your read on me is super strange.
You say everyone else thought I was town which was obvious which you didn't see.
But you point out that scummy people are asking to dance with me.
you do really that it is those exact scummy people who have been the most certain I am town?
if that is all the case, what's going on here?
If all the scummy are TRing me and the only town in the set, you, is SRing me, by your strange flawed logic does that make everyone scum except for you?
.........Noraa moonlogic.

[Noraa]

i think you/unwnd are town

one problem is that I don't see how anyone has a read on unwnd. Unwnd is a tiny question mark at best and huge giant question mark at worst. I have zero read on unwnd. They could flip self aligned fruit vendor and I wouldn't be surprised.

[Noraa]

i find you immensely frustrating to play with and i am prone to scumreading your behavior despite everyone else thinking it's town (literally JUST PLAYED A GAME WHERE THIS HAPPENED)

and... yes? you attack people who scumread you in games, and you have fun/try to go with people (in general, not all the time) who you like, from what i've seen? i think that peopl are going to try to pocket you rather than fight you because you are stupidly stubborn and will go kicking and screaming, and what they want is for you to do that to someone else like you did it to oka this game

I am an immensely frustrating person to play with. I have always been a total wildcard that flips at her own will with zero warning. I play with my heart and not my brain. Nothing stops my gut and my gut is not always right. You don't have to play with me if you don't want to. Just tell me and I'll steer clear of your games.

Oka tunneled me far before I tunneled them so if you want to blame someone, that someone shouldn't be me.

[Noraa]

did you read the interactions that koba and unwnd had? those sorts of attacks/interactions don't happen between people who are partnered, they're too... aggressively personal for scum to really go after, to put it lightly

I did read them. I don't think it's outside of a scum partner possibility?
If Flava and I were scum, I am certain we could pull off a huge shitfight. Not the preferred scum theater, clearly. But I don't think it's impossible?

[Noraa]

mmm I suppose. My problem with unwnd is that I KNOW that unwnd can be one of the most obvtown people in the world.
But in all of their recent games, they have chosen specifically not to.
And I have a hard time reading their current play style.

[Noraa]

And so I'm having a hard time TRing unwnd with my high expectations that are no longer correct. And I know that but I can't determine where the new standards are...

[Noraa]

i think that that might be explained by unwnd feeling out of place in this sort of setup which he said early on was the case, but you can ask him too

No, he's been like this in all of his recent games. like all of them. every. single. one.
I'm not sure what to make of this play style shift/emotional shift.

[Noraa]

Also DK repping out means nothing. Heck it could be because too many people were SRing them and they didn't wanna get limmed. NAI 100%

[Noraa]

er sorry not NAI. I meant it didn't mean anything towards interactions with other people.

[Noraa]

Alright taking the initiative then

Ydra let's dance

you don't think ydra and sans should do backflips?

[Noraa]

unwnd, you don't agree that [ydra, sans] has scum?

[Noraa]

Oh I absolutely do, but if I'm misreading a potential Sans/Ydra team I don't wish to give them a convenient excuse

if you agree, why not kill them both off now to get rid of the scum in there?

[Noraa]

If we force them to pair rn, they will accept most likely(depends tho)
If we wanna just pair everyone else up and force them into a pair, that works too.
Why are you ruining that great pair?

[Noraa]

Ydra could accept your pairing and throw a wrench in our plans. I do think sans is the more likely scum in the pair but them paired together is the best still just in case.

[Noraa]

Alright taking the initiative then

Ydra let's dance

you don't think ydra and sans should do backflips?

No because that is an uncontrolled variable. You have two people who like each other a good amount and play a ton of games together. The obvious choice is to let them dance together right? Wrong. I don't really townread either of them so why would I advocate a pairing like that in the first place

because they pair and become the death pool.

[Noraa]

why is dead pooling two people that apparently you SR a bad thing?

[Noraa]

It'd be way different if I townread (Sans) or (Ydra) because then I would be entrusting my townread to take the fall. I do not feel this way and recent development doesn't help me

Ydra said she townreads me, and we're getting to the point where scum just wins if we run out of time.

No. Ydra and Sans is TvS. They may both be scummy but I am 90% certain they are TvS.

[Noraa]

We are killing a town with a scum.

[Noraa]

that's what you want right unwnd?

[Noraa]

Ok fine.
Unwnd/Ydrasse (I'm assuming she accepts probably just because she doesn't wanna die with sans)
If she doesn't accept, that basically locktowns her.
Harley or Hatters. I dunno tbh. I really don't know.

[Noraa]

Sans/harley?
Noraa/Hatters

[Noraa]

that's what you want right unwnd?

Me
Noraa
Ydra
Sans
Harley
Hatters

Sure we can afford the leave but I don't know if it actually ever comes, and then if Ydra/Sans are just scum together they just do this game until it's over lol

if they are scum together, then don't they just die together?

[Noraa]

No because they never leave

oh shoot ur right. hm.

[Noraa]

like realistically i want 1 of sans and then either hatters/harley bc that's always going to flip 1 scum unless you/noraa are somehow scum? but at this point i'm not going to bother with thinking about that and accept the L if it's the case

in practice though i don't think anyone wants to split me/sans though which like, @_@ i get it but also i'm dumb and wanna win over him for once so sorry but

accept unwnd

well now I think ur scum which is just wonderful.

[Noraa]

I feel like at least one of them is scum which makes my job hard bc I would like to pair with town. watch both be scum tho. then I'm worrying over nothing.

[Noraa]

er sorry I meant town. agh I keep mixing words up

[Noraa]

what reasons do you have to tr each?

I don't TR either. I maybe TR Harley but the problem is I have paranoia on her. A huge paranoia hole at that.

[Noraa]

I like both a lot so the pt and having fun is no problem. I just don't know about alignment and if I can really read either in a pt.

[Noraa]

sans will you choose a dance partner to propose to?

[Noraa]

It's easier for me if someone else chooses. Then it doesn't matter if the person accepts because I can accept the other one on my end.

[Noraa]

accept harley

You may be scum but I have decided to trust you. Don't let me down.

[Noraa]

So that should default Hatters to Sans right?

yeah they are forced to pair.

[Noraa]

Harley you might wanna start thinking about ways to convince me ur town because I will leave the game in an instant if I ever think ur scum.

[Noraa]

I have paranoia on you which could lead to town loss if you are town.

[Noraa]

*to a

[Noraa]

Last words? Im about to go afk for like three hours.

[Noraa]

I counted 5 seconds. Ok I'm off then.

[Noraa]

ok then well Harley didn't reply to me in the pt. so that needs to happen.

[Noraa]

who won?

[Noraa]

oh I see.
I told y'all Harley was scum lol.
and that hectic/ydrasse had scummmm

[Noraa]

>.<
godtier Noraa reads wooooo
sorry hectic. I suck at reading you.

[Noraa]

So ydra wasn't playing to her normal scum meta because hectic was there. nice nice. I've jotted that down.

[Noraa]

If hectic were ever to get banned. The banned thread would grow two pages for all the alts the mods have to list

2 pages? you must be joking or is 2 the shorthand of three million two hundred thousand and seven?

[Noraa]

oh?

[Noraa]

DK your scum game has improved.