Explosiva Mafia - GAME OVER

[armlx]

A meta of scuminess != an enjoyment of the scum role.

No, but what he is implying is that his comfort zone, or his standard behavior, is scummy.

[M4yhem]

I thought he was implying he enjoyed being scum?

[Max]

We should wait for batt to come back to answer that.

[Battousai]

I would like to think that I don't play scummy, but my favorite role is probably SK, followed by mafia, I believe I said that in my very first post of the first game I played here that I didn't like my role. Now, I don't know what this has to do with implying that I'm not being comfortable as scum and that I/scum would act anti town for being out of the element and that how my anti-town behaviour is more scummy than anyone else's anti-town behaviour (not that I'm saying my questions to DGB was anti-town). Also, Armlx's reasoning to me "attacking DGB" is based on unproven facts and speculation.

[DragonsofSummer]

I'm not saying it isn't possible that you were just asking questions batt. I am just saying thats not the feeling I got when I reread that part of the game.

Some of the best lynches I have seen on this site have the facts accompanied by gut feelings on what someone posted was trying to do (this is what you are calling speculation I think?).

[M4yhem]

Unvote Batt, Vote:Alivinz

because Batt's frustration sounds genuine.

[Battousai]

DoS: The speculation part was mostly towards Armlx who basically said my attack was anti-town and scum act anti-town because they're out of their comfort zone. That whole statement is filled with speculation and unproven facts.

[DragonsofSummer]

Oh okay I understand now.

[armlx]

I thought he was implying he enjoyed being scum?

No, he was trying to counter my definition of why scum do scummy things by shit logic. Basically, he's trying to say he's not scummy because scum aren't scummy by nature.

[Twomz]

I typically enjoy being scum more than being town... unless I'm a vig.

I guess I'm just violent by nature... /shrug.

[armlx]

That was useful Twomz.

Note, I'm going to actively insult every post you make until you actually post content. you have been warned.

[Battousai]

Armlx, your just twisting it. Your point was that my "attack" was anti-town and the only reason you gave for it being scummy was that basically scum act anti-town when they are out of their comfort zone. I countered with it being all speculation and unproven fact. It's speculation because you ASSUME a scum role is out of my comfort zone. It's unproven fact because there is no proof to my knowledge that, when out of their comfort zone, scum act anti-town.

Nowhere did I say I was not scummy, I'm just trying to disprove the fact that my questions towards DGB, was an attack and that the attack is something scum would do. I just find it as a null tell, and so did someone else. M4hyem, IIRC, said it was a null tell on D1.

[armlx]

the only reason you gave for it being scummy was that basically scum act anti-town when they are out of their comfort zone

That was not my reason. That was my response to you asking why scum would do that. Very different.

Its scummy because attacking confirmed townies is scummy.

[Battousai]

Isn't something scummy because scum do it? So its scummy would mean scum would do it, which means there must be a reason scum would do it.

Also, your last sentance makes no sense. Its scummy, because blank is scummy. If I ask'd you why the sun is hot, would you respond "Its hot because the sun is hot."

[armlx]

Isn't something scummy because scum do it? So its scummy would mean scum would do it, which means there must be a reason scum would do it.

And I stated why, and your response was saying nothing was scummy (in effect).

Attacking confirmed townies is scummy as its basically trying to put suspicion on someone who should not be suspect.

[Battousai]

In case anyone has forgotten, my "attack" on DGB are the following:

BM: Overreacting much?

DGB: Which one person do YOU think should be blown up with you today?

DGB: You haven't answered my question yet. Who is your number 1 suspect right now?

Now how is this putting suspicion on DGB? All I was trying to do was get her to state who she felt like blowing up (as that kind of pressure would garner information as a L-2 or so vote)

Isn't something scummy because scum do it? So its scummy would mean scum would do it, which means there must be a reason scum would do it.

And I stated why, and your response was saying nothing was scummy (in effect).

Yes, and now my defense to the "attack" on DGB is posted.

[armlx]

Now how is this putting suspicion on DGB?

You are aggressively implying she is dodging the question.

[M4yhem]

M4hyem, IIRC, said it was a null tell on D1.

I said it was a slight town tell actually.

Twomz- What do you think of Alvinz? Who is scummier, Batts or Armlx? If you had a bomb, who would you blow up?

Killah seven- What do you think of Alvinz? Who do you think TDC should kill? If Batts hadn't suggested your death, would you still find him suspicious?

[Battousai]

How do you get it is as being aggressive? I only told her once that she hasn't answered my question yet. Does anyone else see those two quotes as being aggressive?

[M4yhem]

Slightly aggressive, I just don't think that's a bad thing.

[DragonsofSummer]

Why do you think it isn't a bad thing M4yhem?

[alvinz95]

Did you see the post by Dripping goofball that said Max’s behaviour WAS consistent with his meta? What do you think of that post? Do you have any reason to think she was wrong?

No i didn't, so NA for the rest.

@ All - DGB called Battousai very townly. What changed? Whats the case on him?

I'm going through a skim on what I missed, so be patient.

[armlx]

@ All - DGB called Battousai very townly. What changed? Whats the case on him?

The same as yesterday.....

And why does it matter what DGB said?

[TDC]

Crazy (3) : Pokerface, Haschel Cedricson, forbiddanlight

alvinz95 (3) : Max, Battle Mage, M4yhem
Battousai (2) : armlx, DragonsofSummer
Iron Man (2): Iron Man, Crazy
armlx (2) : Twomz, Battousai
killa seven (2) : killa seven, Twomz
DragonsofSummer (1) : the silent speaker
Jex (1) : Jex
the silent speaker (1) : Coron
Max (1) : alvinz95

Deadline: Sunday, October 5th 12:00 CET.

[M4yhem]

Why do you think it isn't a bad thing M4yhem?

Because it showed she cared about getting an answer out of DGB and wasn't afraid to push for it.

Alvinz- It's not NA. What do you think of DGB's assesment of Max's meta now? Do you have any reason to think she was wrong?

Armlx- It matters because we can trust DGB's intentions, even if we can't trust her judgement, which is more than can be said for the rest of us.