Mini 2204: Fakeclaim Mafia GAME OVER


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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:31 pm

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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:31 pm

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If TNK!scum, S_S!scum?
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:32 pm

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In post 1195, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1190, skitter30 wrote:No, they have the motivation to not die, and if theh think going 'guys look ur reasons for voting me are bad' will get votes off of them, i think they might just do that without tryint to go through the motions of solving too
I mean, that's true. Does your experience with Korina lead you to think that they would think that?
Not particularly either way but like it just feels very scummy to me

I'm also not sure why we're arguing abt this tbh

Also do u have other reads yet
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:32 pm

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Man that's a good one
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:32 pm

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We really need blood if cakez is around he should vote TNK so I can take NM’s hammer
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:32 pm

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In post 1201, Menalque wrote:If TNK!scum, S_S!scum?
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:33 pm

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Pingu town?
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:33 pm

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In post 1201, Menalque wrote:If TNK!scum, S_S!scum?
I can see it
Would prefer tnk today tho

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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 1198, Menalque wrote:!!!

He does it again!!
asking you to explain a claim that you made with no evidence is not pedantry
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 1202, skitter30 wrote:Also do u have other reads yet
Yah Menalque is town

I don't think he picks this hill to die on as scum
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:36 pm

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In post 1201, Menalque wrote:If TNK!scum, S_S!scum?
surprised that this doesn't say "If TNK!town, S_S!scum?" because I love to defend townies like this as scum and I almost never do it to partners.

I feel like that's pretty compelling evidence that you don't know me as well as you think you do
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:37 pm

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What hill lmao

Bro I could do this all day as scum in this gamestate, what r u talkin about
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:38 pm

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I’m like broadly townread ish and you’re v much not, I could shitpush you all the way to launch valley and not get a lot of blowback for it
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:38 pm

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In post 1210, Something_Smart wrote:because I love to defend townies like this as scum and I almost never do it to partners.
he said while defending his partner
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:39 pm

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I did have the thought that you would probably also WK town!kori tho, so I ultimately think it’s fairly NAI for you and the more incriminating thing is the pedantry and the total lack of interest in solving the game
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:40 pm

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In post 1212, Menalque wrote:I’m like broadly townread ish and you’re v much not, I could shitpush you all the way to launch valley and not get a lot of blowback for it
But why would you
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:41 pm

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Like if I’m wrong I’m wrong and it sadly ruins a decent streak of reads on you but based on what you’ve posted so far I have no idea how you think anyone should TR you

Or if you even do think that, but if you don’t think people are TRing you (they’re not) and you are town, I have no idea why you’re not trying to remedy that and instead are picking at arguments for TNK!scum that are p solid
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:41 pm

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In post 1215, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1212, Menalque wrote:I’m like broadly townread ish and you’re v much not, I could shitpush you all the way to launch valley and not get a lot of blowback for it
But why would you
I mean I’d probably save it until tomo if TNK!town, is true
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:44 pm

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In post 1216, Menalque wrote:Like if I’m wrong I’m wrong and it sadly ruins a decent streak of reads on you but based on what you’ve posted so far I have no idea how you think anyone should TR you
Well I don't know, some of the people here know me better than I know myself. I don't necessarily think that I should be townread, or even that I shouldn't be scumread, but scumreading me for being pedantic is absurd.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:45 pm

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Also I'm in the process of collecting a bunch of posts from my TM game that should hopefully be pedantic enough for your liking? But I can keep looking back at other town games if you think it's not sufficient.
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:46 pm

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I mean sure go ahead but it’s also partly a vibes based thing

I know you push for justifications from people when you’re town as well, but I think you do it more as scum and kinda differently although idk how well I can explain the difference
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:52 pm

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Well here I'll post what I have then. If it's actually helpful I can look for more, otherwise I won't bother.
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In post 722, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 719, Noraa wrote:If we used that logic, I'd be rolling town in every single game. Someone calls me locktown in every game.
Well, maybe the logic doesn't apply in this case, which is useful information. But we're not debating the validity of it; we're debating whether it's reasonable for town to believe it.
In post 1495, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1485, SirCakez wrote:S_S is making a lot of nothingburger posts like these
Is this related to your read on me?
In post 1505, Something_Smart wrote:How are you defining "town post"?
In post 1742, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1739, Cheetory6 wrote:I mean it feels like you're ignoring the "genuine" part of what I said?
I'm not; I said that I don't think it's especially genuine-looking, but that doesn't mean it isn't genuine. It is reasonable enough that I have no reason to believe that it isn't genuine, which means I'm not concerned about it.
In post 1865, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1862, SirCakez wrote:i think you're coasting by and not producing much notable content or scumhunting
What do you consider to be notable content?
In post 1886, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1883, SirCakez wrote:If S_S's Jake discussion is the "content" he's been referring to then I'm not super impressed. Certainly not enough to drop my SR.
I mean, all of the things I've said today. It's more than just that. But like, the content being impressive wasn't part of the read... content is content.

(Also, you still haven't said why my content being low is even connected to my alignment.)
In post 1913, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1898, SirCakez wrote:Real scumhunting, reads, useful questioning (not the fluffy stuff you've been outputting), etc.
You have replaced unclear terminology with more unclear terminology. I have scumhunted; it's real because I am town. I assume you mean that it doesn't look real, which is just a fancy way of saying you scumread me and not really an explanation of anything.

I have given reads. If it's not enough, well, sorry. It's not like making up reads is especially hard as scum; if anything, forming real ones as town is harder.

I have asked questions that are useful to me. They generally pertain to asking people to explain things that aren't clear to me, which seems about as useful as you can get. Can you elaborate on the difference between a fluffy question and a useful one?

If you'd like to revise your claim from "S_S is 5 times more pedantic as scum than as town" to something more gut-based, by all means go ahead, because the claim is ridiculous as it currently stands.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:54 pm

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Will think about it

Taking claims as literal from me is weird tho given that I use hyperbole in literally 10000% of my games
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:58 pm

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In post 1222, Menalque wrote:Taking claims as literal from me is weird tho given that I use hyperbole in literally 10000% of my games
Yeah, that's true. I actually am really bad at accounting for this, now that I think about it. (Even though you literally just fooled me with it the last time we played together.)
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:58 pm

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But still it would be nice to know how you actually feel about me...
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