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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:25 pm

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The question is why wouldn't you talk about the game. The question should be why didn't you talk about the game. To me those being vague on there discussion is more suspect.
Again, my question is what the hell is there to talk about. The main reason to talk to a mason/scum partner outside the thread in a normal game is information that you don't want revealed at that time. There was no information in pre-game.

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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:34 pm

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armlx wrote:
The question is why wouldn't you talk about the game. The question should be why didn't you talk about the game. To me those being vague on there discussion is more suspect.
Again, my question is what the hell is there to talk about. The main reason to talk to a mason/scum partner outside the thread in a normal game is information that you don't want revealed at that time. There was no information in pre-game.

Unvote, Vote farside
for making a bull shit case.
Looks like a OMGUS vote to me. Why would you not talk more with your lover knowing it would be the only chance to talk about what scum could do. What to look for and best ways to find scum?
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:46 pm

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farside22 wrote:
armlx wrote:
The question is why wouldn't you talk about the game. The question should be why didn't you talk about the game. To me those being vague on there discussion is more suspect.
Again, my question is what the hell is there to talk about. The main reason to talk to a mason/scum partner outside the thread in a normal game is information that you don't want revealed at that time. There was no information in pre-game.

Unvote, Vote farside
for making a bull shit case.
Looks like a OMGUS vote to me. Why would you not talk more with your lover knowing it would be the only chance to talk about what scum could do. What to look for and best ways to find scum?
Because the best way (imo)
was
brought up in our discussion [voting patterns].
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:55 pm

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kloud1516 wrote:
farside22 wrote:
armlx wrote:
The question is why wouldn't you talk about the game. The question should be why didn't you talk about the game. To me those being vague on there discussion is more suspect.
Again, my question is what the hell is there to talk about. The main reason to talk to a mason/scum partner outside the thread in a normal game is information that you don't want revealed at that time. There was no information in pre-game.

Unvote, Vote farside
for making a bull shit case.
Looks like a OMGUS vote to me. Why would you not talk more with your lover knowing it would be the only chance to talk about what scum could do. What to look for and best ways to find scum?
Because the best way (imo)
was
brought up in our discussion [voting patterns].
Why then the part in bold:

>Armlx: Forgets about discussion.
Says he replaced in to another Polygamist Mafia, but doesn't find a whole lot to base scumhunting tactics off of when it comes to set up
.
>Me: I say that I haven't had any experience with the set-up, but noticed that voting patterns were a key part in hitting scum in previous games.
>Armlx: Agrees.

Then a quick agreement? If you knew more then armlx why didn't he ask more questions on what you read or saw that would help?
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:59 pm

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Vote Count


Farside22 (4) Adel, Empking, Jahudo, armlx
Empking (1) Mana_Ku
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armlx (2) Goat, Farside
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Adel (0)

Not Voting (3) Jenethron, Caboose, Kloud

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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:31 pm

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Why would you not talk more with your lover knowing it would be the only chance to talk about what scum could do.
I can just post that in thread when they do it?
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:50 am

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Sorry, I have limited access at this point.

I do agree that farside seems to have slipped up, and I don't really get why she is voting for armlx. Her recent attack against him as OMGUS seems fabricated, as armlx has recently made good points to counter her "we could clearly have discussed so much in the quicktopic" point.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:55 am

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First question is for Farside. Your pre-game chat was about looking for players who vote in clusters. Could you explain this?

Next would be why you're voting for armlx. During day one you voted the whole time for Llama/Empking. You also said that you got strange vibes from Llama/Goat. Now you get good vibes? Why the sudden switch?

@Empking/Goat. What did Llama and Goat talk about afterwards at the pre-game chat?

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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:56 am

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Mana_Ku wrote:First question is for Farside. Your pre-game chat was about looking for players who vote in clusters. Could you explain this?

Next would be why you're voting for armlx. During day one you voted the whole time for Llama/Empking. You also said that you got strange vibes from Llama/Goat. Now you get good vibes? Why the sudden switch?

@Empking/Goat. What did Llama and Goat talk about afterwards at the pre-game chat?

Mod, I don't know if you've noticed Adel's last post.
I'm requesting replacement in all of my games, including this one.
I apologize to all of you for not fulfilling the commitment I made by joining this game.
Perhaps you can understand that I want a new lover
Well I had 24 hours to talk to my lover which isn't a lot of time so I thought of the one thing that is what I notice scum would do in this type of game to be on the look out for. If I had more time I would have gone on to discuss each player.

I still don't feel good about Empking/Goat. However the interaction between armlx and goat has confused me because I was leaning that the 4 of them as scum. Which it could be and that is there way to distance from each other.
I actually want an explanination from Goat and Empking about the football comment.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:01 am

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Mana_Ku wrote:First question is for Farside. Your pre-game chat was about looking for players who vote in clusters. Could you explain this?

Next would be why you're voting for armlx. During day one you voted the whole time for Llama/Empking. You also said that you got strange vibes from Llama/Goat. Now you get good vibes? Why the sudden switch?

@Empking/Goat. What did Llama and Goat talk about afterwards at the pre-game chat?

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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:29 am

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farside22 wrote:I actually want an explanination from Goat and Empking about the football comment.
Sure. Llama mentioned football, but it fell in the "not relevant to this game" discussion bit. I was more interested in the "discussion of previous games we were in" part.

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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:41 am

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Goatrevolt wrote:
farside22 wrote:I actually want an explanination from Goat and Empking about the football comment.
Sure. Llama mentioned football, but it fell in the "not relevant to this game" discussion bit. I was more interested in the "discussion of previous games we were in" part.

Catching up...
Why would empking only mention football and you mention the other game?
Don't say a word just yet.
Empking what was the other game that llama and goat where talking about?
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:44 am

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I think farside's attack on myself/Empking and armlx/kloud based on pregame chats is weak. It strikes me as her trying to somehow extract/fabricate scumminess from the pregame chats to boost her predetermined notions of who is scum.

Personally, I would be more suspicious of the "perfect" pre-game chat than one that doiesn't contain all the discussion that good little pre-game townies should have. You can't expect townies pregame to discuss every possibly thing, and I would honestly suspect a fake if anyone did.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:48 am

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Goatrevolt wrote:I think farside's attack on myself/Empking and armlx/kloud based on pregame chats is weak. It strikes me as her trying to somehow extract/fabricate scumminess from the pregame chats to boost her predetermined notions of who is scum.

Personally, I would be more suspicious of the "perfect" pre-game chat than one that doiesn't contain all the discussion that good little pre-game townies should have. You can't expect townies pregame to discuss every possibly thing, and I would honestly suspect a fake if anyone did.
Scum have more to hid with there talks then a town person does.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:49 am

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farside22 wrote:Why would empking only mention football and you mention the other game?
Don't say a word just yet.
Empking what was the other game that llama and goat where talking about?
I'm not sure exactly. It was probably more interesting to him than discussion of a game he wasn't a part of.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:55 am

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farside22 wrote:
Goatrevolt wrote:I think farside's attack on myself/Empking and armlx/kloud based on pregame chats is weak. It strikes me as her trying to somehow extract/fabricate scumminess from the pregame chats to boost her predetermined notions of who is scum.

Personally, I would be more suspicious of the "perfect" pre-game chat than one that doiesn't contain all the discussion that good little pre-game townies should have. You can't expect townies pregame to discuss every possibly thing, and I would honestly suspect a fake if anyone did.
Scum have more to hid with there talks then a town person does.
Very true, but scum also have more information than townies and more to discuss. Townies don't have to hide anything, but they also have less information to discuss pre-game. You are holding Llama to a really high standard (and me by association), expecting us to discuss a laundry list of points pre-game, when in reality I know I just wanted to get in the game and see how things went. I could possibly see a higher level of expectation from someone like Adel who is well-versed in the setup, but neither Llama nor I have played this before.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:00 am

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Goatrevolt wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Goatrevolt wrote:I think farside's attack on myself/Empking and armlx/kloud based on pregame chats is weak. It strikes me as her trying to somehow extract/fabricate scumminess from the pregame chats to boost her predetermined notions of who is scum.

Personally, I would be more suspicious of the "perfect" pre-game chat than one that doiesn't contain all the discussion that good little pre-game townies should have. You can't expect townies pregame to discuss every possibly thing, and I would honestly suspect a fake if anyone did.
Scum have more to hid with there talks then a town person does.
Very true, but scum also have more information than townies and more to discuss. Townies don't have to hide anything, but they also have less information to discuss pre-game. You are holding Llama to a really high standard (and me by association), expecting us to discuss a laundry list of points pre-game, when in reality I know I just wanted to get in the game and see how things went. I could possibly see a higher level of expectation from someone like Adel who is well-versed in the setup, but neither Llama nor I have played this before.
Adel was not around when pre game talks were taking place.
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:16 am

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farside22 wrote:Adel was not around when pre game talks were taking place.
Yep, I know. That was hypothetical.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:18 am

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Goatrevolt wrote:
farside22 wrote:Adel was not around when pre game talks were taking place.
Yep, I know. That was hypothetical.
If she had been around I would have expected her talks to be long. If you read the last poly game she admitted her night talks to be lengthy no matter her alignment.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:33 am

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Sweatpants Ninja replaces Adel. Yay.
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:53 pm

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I'll keep my vote against Empking. This can change if he can tell me which game they were talking about.
However, Empking never mentioned that game. Not even in his second answer.

Also farside, I wanted to hear what you meant with the clusters. Are these the lover pairs or two lover pairs together aka the four scum?
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:38 am

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Just finished a first read. I have what I think is a pretty important question: Besides Adel, who I replaced, has any other player been MIA recently?

Because I see four votes on farside, one from each pair. Which means that if farside was town, scum could have finished her off. But that has not happened. Which leads me to believe that farside is scum.

Vote farside.
(Really just a continuation of adel's vote.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:47 am

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Mana_Ku wrote:I'll keep my vote against Empking. This can change if he can tell me which game they were talking about.
However, Empking never mentioned that game. Not even in his second answer.

Also farside, I wanted to hear what you meant with the clusters. Are these the lover pairs or two lover pairs together aka the four scum?
That was Goat and Llama conversation. Empking and Goat's was the same except one line. I'm looking to see why.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:34 am

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TheSweatpantsNinja wrote: Because I see four votes on farside, one from each pair. Which means that if farside was town, scum could have finished her off. But that has not happened. Which leads me to believe that farside is scum.
Deja vu, huh? She's at L-2 and if she is scum then there's 3 remaining town off the wagon and 2 would need to vote.

I don't think anyone's been inactive lately and on her bandwagon. It's that same old debate of safe-distancing vs risky suicide. Makes armix look like a less likely pair with farside, but not impossible.

Also, why do you think she's scum? Do you think Caboose is also scummy?
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:01 am

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I really didn't like caboose's early wagon voting. Farside has definitely been uncharacteristically lurky.

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