That's WIFOM. You could make the argument that the scum could be avoiding to appear that they are trying for a Farside quicklynch.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Because I see four votes on farside, one from each pair. Which means that if farside was town, scum could have finished her off. But that has not happened. Which leads me to believe that farside is scum.
I just figured the scum decided to use the vote analysis against the town at this point. I don't have proff of this but my bet is that Armlx/ Kloud is part of it. Who is there partner is hard to tell because the votes got manipulated by the scum.Caboose wrote:I kind of forgot about this game for a while. Sorry.
That's WIFOM. You could make the argument that the scum could be avoiding to appear that they are trying for a Farside quicklynch.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Because I see four votes on farside, one from each pair. Which means that if farside was town, scum could have finished her off. But that has not happened. Which leads me to believe that farside is scum.
P.S. - bandwagon voting isn't a scumtell
You scare me. I dont' get you in the least. Just when I figure something about you, you throw me off balance.armlx wrote:I agree with the principle farside is stating above. The every group tell is no longer valid.
Lets look at the partners that are not on my BW since you bring this up.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:No, what I'm saying is that scum could quicklynch and win the game if farside was town, and yet they have not done that.armlx wrote: I agree with the principle farside is stating above. The every group tell is no longer valid.
Yes and it can be taken as a que to let his scum buddies know the game is there's but I get protown vibes from Manu his lover.Caboose wrote:Does anyone besides me think that it's pretty scummy that SweatpantsNinja is even making that arguement in the first place? I personally think that it's WIFOM because scum could use the quicklynch arguement in order to give themselves more credibility while they slowly add votes to Farside.
Just looked at Jenthron and Kloud's profile. Kloud has been around posting elsewhere since his last post on this game. Jenthron's computer went down it seems and has not posted since the 23rd. So if Kloud votes does the fact that no one quick hammer look less scummy knowing one player is out of commision? Makes it harder for the scum to do a quick hammer if one of there own are MIA.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:WIFOM? Seriously, caboose, that's what you've got? What you're suggesting is that scum are refusing towin the gameimmediately, to make it easier to win the game later. Now farside's argument is at least feasible, scum may simply have not had a chance to to quickhammer.
The longer those votes stay, though, the less feasible that argument is going to get.
Yes, that is what I've got. It seems like it's valid too:TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:WIFOM? Seriously, caboose, that's what you've got? What you're suggesting is that scum are refusing towin the gameimmediately, to make it easier to win the game later. Now farside's argument is at least feasible, scum may simply have not had a chance to to quickhammer.
The longer those votes stay, though, the less feasible that argument is going to get.
Just looked at Jenthron and Kloud's profile. Kloud has been around posting elsewhere since his last post on this game. Jenthron's computer went down it seems and has not posted since the 23rd. So if Kloud votes does the fact that no one quick hammer look less scummy knowing one player is out of commision?Makes it harder for the scum to do a quick hammer if one of there own are MIA.
Like I said I experience this myself in Poly game where Grimmy went MIA as well so right now the idea of scum hammering looks WIFOM to me based on the two low contributers.
Its not WIFOM. To call it WIFOM is to misuse the term. There is no benefit to scum intentionally refusing to do this. It is possible that scum are unable to quicklynch, although every player not voting for you has posted since armlx put that fourth vote on. But there's no benefit to refusing to.farside wrote: Just looked at Jenthron and Kloud's profile. Kloud has been around posting elsewhere since his last post on this game. Jenthron's computer went down it seems and has not posted since the 23rd. So if Kloud votes does the fact that no one quick hammer look less scummy knowing one player is out of commision? Makes it harder for the scum to do a quick hammer if one of there own are MIA.
Like I said I experience this myself in Poly game where Grimmy went MIA as well so right now the idea of scum hammering looks WIFOM to me based on the two low contributers.
I don't think WIFOM means what you think it means. See above.caboose wrote: Yes, that is what I've got. It seems like it's valid too:
caboose wrote: Tell me with a straight face that I would put my alleged scumbuddy in lynching position 24 hours before deadline.
You ignored most of my point.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:*grumble* Bluehost ate my first post.
Its not WIFOM. To call it WIFOM is to misuse the term. There is no benefit to scum intentionally refusing to do this. It is possible that scum are unable to quicklynch, although every player not voting for you has posted since armlx put that fourth vote on. But there's no benefit to refusing to.farside wrote: Just looked at Jenthron and Kloud's profile. Kloud has been around posting elsewhere since his last post on this game. Jenthron's computer went down it seems and has not posted since the 23rd. So if Kloud votes does the fact that no one quick hammer look less scummy knowing one player is out of commision? Makes it harder for the scum to do a quick hammer if one of there own are MIA.
Like I said I experience this myself in Poly game where Grimmy went MIA as well so right now the idea of scum hammering looks WIFOM to me based on the two low contributers.
I don't think WIFOM means what you think it means. See above.caboose wrote: Yes, that is what I've got. It seems like it's valid too:
Now, say,thisis WIFOM:
caboose wrote: Tell me with a straight face that I would put my alleged scumbuddy in lynching position 24 hours before deadline.
You make it sound as if I have been absent from this thread for a lengthy amount of time, which isn't the case at all. I my last post was TWO DAYS ago, so you claiming that I am just waiting around for others players to return is utterly ridiculous in my opinion. I have made a grand total of eight posts since my last submission in this game, and most of those have just been indications of me rereading. I have already said before that weekdays are hectic for me, and so I do not feel this point holds much water.farside22 wrote:Just looked at Jenthron and Kloud's profile. Kloud has been around posting elsewhere since his last post on this game. Jenthron's computer went down it seems and has not posted since the 23rd. So if Kloud votes does the fact that no one quick hammer look less scummy knowing one player is out of commision? Makes it harder for the scum to do a quick hammer if one of there own are MIA.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:WIFOM? Seriously, caboose, that's what you've got? What you're suggesting is that scum are refusing towin the gameimmediately, to make it easier to win the game later. Now farside's argument is at least feasible, scum may simply have not had a chance to to quickhammer.
The longer those votes stay, though, the less feasible that argument is going to get.
Like I said I experience this myself in Poly game where Grimmy went MIA as well so right now the idea of scum hammering looks WIFOM to me based on the two low contributers.
Not WIFOM at all. I'm saying that I wouldn't put the lynching vote on my scumbuddy with 24 hours to go before deadline in this kind of set-up, where scum bussing is suicide. If I was scum, that move would be pretty dicey, don't you think?Now, say, this is WIFOM:
I wrote:Tell me with a straight face that I would put my alleged scumbuddy in lynching position 24 hours before deadline.
Indeed it would. But you might have done it for the perceived benefit of making it appear that you and armlx were not buddies. Which is why its WIFOM. To extend that, you could be doing something that is bad for your alignment to make it appear that you are not that alignment. (For the record, I agree with you, its far more likely that empking/goat are the other partners, but the point is still WIFOM.)caboose wrote: Not WIFOM at all. I'm saying that I wouldn't put the lynching vote on my scumbuddy with 24 hours to go before deadline in this kind of set-up, where scum bussing is suicide. If I was scum, that move would be pretty dicey, don't you think?
IF A SCUM BUDDY IS INACTIVE THEY CAN'T DO A QUICK HAMMER.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:You really don't know what it means.
Indeed it would. But you might have done it for the perceived benefit of making it appear that you and armlx were not buddies. Which is why its WIFOM. To extend that, you could be doing something that is bad for your alignment to make it appear that you are not that alignment. (For the record, I agree with you, its far more likely that empking/goat are the other partners, but the point is still WIFOM.)caboose wrote: Not WIFOM at all. I'm saying that I wouldn't put the lynching vote on my scumbuddy with 24 hours to go before deadline in this kind of set-up, where scum bussing is suicide. If I was scum, that move would be pretty dicey, don't you think?
For scum, there is no benefit to making farside appear scum when they can win the game immediately.
I have stated 2 times that Jenethron is not online and admitted to computer problems. He came on at 4:00am if you look at his post. If he voted then without knowing when his scum buddy would be around then his vote would look suspicious. Seriously you need to read the Poly game I was scum in with Grimmy and how hard it is when someone is AWOL and not paying attention.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:This is true, if not terribly likely. That means in order for you to be town, one of the scum must be inactive. So let me ask you this: who is the inactive scum?farside wrote: They can't win the game immediately if one of their scumbuddies is inactive.
This is a risky situation but it's already crushed at least one scenario: "Farside/Caboose is town AND Pants/Mana is scum" cannot be true. This certainly changes SweatpantsNinja's motives the last page or so, if you thought this scenario was true.Mana_Ku wrote:I would suggest an unvote at this time. Farside has now 5 votes with 6 needed to lynch. At this moment we have one player inactive, Jenethron, and two players who are voting someone else, me and Goat.
We now have one pair that votes Farside. If this pair is one of the scumpairs, then there is a high possibility that when Goat or Jenethron are online that one of them will vote as well. I don't want to take that risk.