Open 88 - Polygamist Mafia (Game Over) before 650

[farside22]

I would suggest an unvote at this time. Farside has now 5 votes with 6 needed to lynch. At this moment we have one player inactive, Jenethron, and two players who are voting someone else, me and Goat.
We now have one pair that votes Farside. If this pair is one of the scumpairs, then there is a high possibility that when Goat or Jenethron are online that one of them will vote as well. I don't want to take that risk.

This is a risky situation but it's already crushed at least one scenario: "Farside/Caboose is town AND Pants/Mana is scum" cannot be true. This certainly changes SweatpantsNinja's motives the last page or so, if you thought this scenario was true.

I'd like to see the next Goat post to crush another theory. I'm only a little worried it might be true and end the game. Farside/Caboose and Goat/Emp are my top picks right now.

But I can unvote if someone wants to debate that "Farside/Caboose are town and Goat/Emp are scum" scenario is true.

See this is what bugs me. Has anyone seen where Jahuno or Jenthan interact with Armlx and Kloud on any level?

[armlx]

But I can unvote if someone wants to debate that "Farside/Caboose are town and Goat/Emp are scum" scenario is true.

I think both are scum frankly.

[Mana_Ku]

Armlx, you asked who the inactive scum was. Farside gave an answer to it. What do you think about that?

[armlx]

Armlx, you asked who the inactive scum was. Farside gave an answer to it. What do you think about that?

I think its valid in the scenario she isn't scum. That's not the scenario I'm considering now.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Farside/caboose: If jenethron is your inactive scum, why are you voting for armlx and me, respectively?

[armlx]

TSPN makes one of many valid points that lead me to not move my vote.

[farside22]

Farside/caboose: If jenethron is your inactive scum, why are you voting for armlx and me, respectively?

I can not control Caboose's choice or thoughts. I disagree with him, but I can't force him to do anything.

I looked at the votes from certain people. The thoughts are from Armlx that I/Caboose and Goat/Empking scum pair and I say he/Kloud or scum pair with Jenthron/Jahudo

Here were the votes and all.

Armlx vote: pope's tira, Jebus, Adel, Llama, Goat, Farside
Llama/Emping vot: Jebus, opposedForce, Adel, farside
Farside: Armlx, Llama, ARmlx
Goat: Caboose, Citizen Karne, Armlx
Jahudo: Jebus, Zoolander, Manu(3fj), armlx, Karne, farside,
OF (Jenthron): Caboose, Llama, Adel, Karne,
Kloud: OpposedForce, Zoolander, Adel, farside22

It's obvious that armlx nor myself scum pair. At the time that Adel was at L-1 I didn't not vote for or agree with her lynch. (TSPN if you haven't read that you should) I as scum could have just fallen in line agreed and hammered Adel at the point. I disagreed with the lynch and reasons for the lynch. I don't have time this second to look at the vote counts at other times in this game. If TSPN would please unvote while I have a chance to gather data before Jenthron comes back I would apprieciate the leeway.

Armlx dodging Manu's question is noted.

[farside22]

Armlx, you asked who the inactive scum was. Farside gave an answer to it. What do you think about that?

I think its valid in the scenario she isn't scum. That's not the scenario I'm considering now.

Never mind see it was answered.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Why aren't

you

voting for jenethron? You can't possibly tell me you are certain that armlx/kloud is the other scumgroup. It could be goat/empking.

[farside22]

Why aren't

you

voting for jenethron? You can't possibly tell me you are certain that armlx/kloud is the other scumgroup. It could be goat/empking.

Why is my vote on armlx an issue?

[farside22]

Why aren't

you

voting for jenethron? You can't possibly tell me you are certain that armlx/kloud is the other scumgroup. It could be goat/empking.

Why is my vote on armlx an issue?

Also why vote on someone inactive at this time if I feel armlx and jenethron are part of the same group?

[armlx]

Why is my vote on armlx an issue?

Because your argument about lurker scum if you are town.....

[farside22]

Why is my vote on armlx an issue?

Because your argument about lurker scum if you are town.....

My point against jenethron is based on the fact I am town and no one else is hammered. Why vote on someone who isn't here when I think you are their scum partner?

[armlx]

My point against jenethron is based on the fact I am town and no one else is hammered. Why vote on someone who isn't here when I think you are their scum partner?

So, you are sure Jen is scum, and speculating I am their partner, and you are voting me.

See the issue?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Armlx makes one of many valid points that lead me to not move my vote.

[farside22]

My point against jenethron is based on the fact I am town and no one else is hammered. Why vote on someone who isn't here when I think you are their scum partner?

So, you are sure Jen is scum, and speculating I am their partner, and you are voting me.

See the issue?

Fine:

unvote:
vote: Jenethron

Who isn't here to defend himself.

Now why hasn't TSPN done as I requested?

[armlx]

He probably thinks you are scum....

[farside22]

He probably thinks you are scum....

Him pulling his vote or even you to give me time that I requested does nothing but help the scum look for time needed for the quick hammer.

[armlx]

Him pulling his vote or even you to give me time that I requested does nothing but help the scum look for time needed for the quick hammer.

Except I think you are scum, and you are trying to stall your wagon till it collapses by getting me to move my vote.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'll take my chances. Because if you were honestly town, and honestly scumhunting, and if you honestly came to the conclusion that jenethron was the

only possible scum

, you would have changed your vote then, because you're a competent player. But you didn't.

[farside22]

I'll take my chances. Because if you were honestly town, and honestly scumhunting, and if you honestly came to the conclusion that jenethron was the

only possible scum

, you would have changed your vote then, because you're a competent player. But you didn't.

Well then I'm not wasting my time on this game.

Good job scum

unvote:
vote: farside22

[Jahudo]

crap I was not expecting that.

[armlx]

Well, the game's over. Set up discussion time.

This set up is fundamentally flawed in that it starts off favoring the town (see the whole random lynch thing), while at the same time it maximizes the effects and ease of scum hunting. I expect town win percentage in this set up given even play skills on both sides is at least 70%.

[armlx]

crap I was not expecting that.

I'm actually not surprised.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

So, um, did we win? Did we lose?