Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Chara]

i could do T3.

i kind of don't want to get involved in this aspect of the argument but i feel like the taunting or whatever cute vibe morph is going for should maybe be put to bed?

pedit: i mean, yeah, scum is what we're going for here.

i also really doubt catboi is that scum and i've been doubting it more and more as he's posted. initially i was just happy to see him but yeah, genuine read there.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, I'm in the wrong for letting my anger get to me and I apologize. There was no excuse for calling cabd a piece of shit, no matter how hurt I feel this game.

Espcially since it ties my anger and frustration and hurt to me alignment and makes this discussion after the game harder to have.

I've fucked up.

But that's irrelevant to the game right now.

The above is the standard.

[morph the cat]

I'm not going to be feelsbadman'd out of this. I'm not taunting LLD at this point. I get that she is obligated to feel that way for the sake of shaking me off. I respect that. She is PLAYING TO WIN.

I'd like to think that we can calm down and murder each other peacefully, but in the game this is a social game about murdering each other and it means stuff is gonna involve flipping out and getting mad. Nobody likes being fed into a woodchipper.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I'm almost tempted to post my role PM and get modkilled simply so that people can know these statements I'm making aren't game related.

But you won't because once again this is a GAME and games mean playing to win, and if you can't handle the idea of a game about social deduction involving the potential for massive shifts in sentiment based upon new information, that's on you.

Like you can try to make me feel bad as much as you want here, but I'm playing to win this game, and if you can't handle that, so be it.

Understand that you treated me like trash this whole game. You get that right? You belittled me, humiliated me and purposefully made my life in the game a living hell.

When you had no reason to do it.

Or is this just another of your "playing to win the game" things.

Because I played to win the game in 2014 too, and well, 2014 LLD used to yell at people until they broke.

Or is that a valid strategy too, cabd

[morph the cat]

I maintain that LLD joins the three red names for a total of "murder these four red names to get to almost assured win"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm not going to be feelsbadman'd out of this. I'm not taunting LLD at this point. I get that she is obligated to feel that way for the sake of shaking me off. I respect that. She is PLAYING TO WIN.

I'd like to think that we can calm down and murder each other peacefully, but in the game this is a social game about murdering each other and it means stuff is gonna involve flipping out and getting mad. Nobody likes being fed into a woodchipper.

you're literally taunting me and if you think you're not despite 2 people saying you are, I recommend you look hard in the mirror and ask yourself whether it is what you intend or what you achieve that matters when people's feeligns are involved.

[Bell]

Eh, it’s my problem that I’m uncomfortable with these kinds of conversations.

[unwnd]

Catboi has requested replacement. Searching..

[notscience]

Cabd can you ask ffery to weigh in on my concerns when she gets the chance please

Like not hurting the wagon or anything I’d just appreciate her insight to my misgivings

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Eh, it’s my problem that I’m uncomfortable with these kinds of conversations.

Then focus on the game side of it.

If you think Cabd is right and I'm scum, vote me.

If you think I'm town, vote T3 or S_S depending on what you prefer.

Cause both of those are flipping scum and Cabd's still not wrong about them.

[Chara]

I'm not going to be feelsbadman'd out of this. I'm not taunting LLD at this point. I get that she is obligated to feel that way for the sake of shaking me off. I respect that. She is PLAYING TO WIN.

I'd like to think that we can calm down and murder each other peacefully, but in the game this is a social game about murdering each other and it means stuff is gonna involve flipping out and getting mad. Nobody likes being fed into a woodchipper.

i dunno, i mean, there's a difference between playing to eliminate scum and making jokes about how much a player has invited their own death, etc, when they've already said they're upset. like, there's no way you're sure she's scum, and i have a problem with pressing players emotionally in a negative way to try and make them "show their true colours" or whatever.

i don't think you've done anything i'd personally find all that objectionable, i just think... i don't know, you could be kinder about it? this is a game we're playing.

[morph the cat]

We could always just discuss their reads and try to make the elimination as airtight guaranteed scum as we can get it.

I would love for you to discuss our reads, Bell. I'm all pointy

claws

ears!

~spay

[morph the cat]

Catboi has requested replacement. Searching..

goddamnit.

[Ircher]

VOTE: LLD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Catboi has requested replacement. Searching..

goddamnit.

shocking

[Ircher]

VOTE: notscience

[Chara]

like, play to win is the rule. it's not fun if everyone isn't trying to win. but it's also not fun when people aren't kind to each other. not to sound like a fucking after school special or anything but this game's vibes have been rank, and catboi repping out is a major bummer too.

pedit:
VOTE: T3

[Bell]

I think that the status quo buddied and manipulated murdercat. A lot of their moves in retrospect seemed designed to turn the screws on someone and then once they got the response they wanted they tended to lighten up. I’m not really hundred percent on it. I don’t have meta, I remember them being a lot more...toxic? As town. I’m using the wrong word there. Argumentative might be better.

[morph the cat]

I’m of two minds because this very much feels like day one of mylo

Cabd can you ask ffery to weigh in on my concerns when she gets the chance please

Like not hurting the wagon or anything I’d just appreciate her insight to my misgivings

I'm here. Talk to me about this?

And your own reads?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

this just isn't fun anymore

[Ircher]

go ahead, can't really hurt at this point. You're otherwise a goner anyway.

I mean, I'll wait until morph confirms it, but I think you're right.

Are you going to address this morph?

[morph the cat]

I think that the status quo buddied and manipulated murdercat. A lot of their moves in retrospect seemed designed to turn the screws on someone and then once they got the response they wanted they tended to lighten up. I’m not really hundred percent on it. I don’t have meta, I remember them being a lot more...toxic? As town. I’m using the wrong word there. Argumentative might be better.

I feel like you reaaaally don't like our s_s read (and haven't liked it earlier when it wasn't as strong). What are we missing about his play that you're seeing?

[Bell]

I’m not sure on something_smart still. Something feels off but not enough for me to ever say something about him. I feel of the theee in your kill list he’s the most likely to not be scum out of them. But I also don’t understand his approach to players this game.

He zeroed in to an illogical argument I made (I don’t put much stock into wagon examinations) but I’m not sure if he was just trying to investigate whether something was off or he saw weakness and went for it.

[Bell]

Basically he feels almost the same as I’m used to him being. He even popped up when the mechanic discussion got going which is very inline with his town play.

[morph the cat]

go ahead, can't really hurt at this point. You're otherwise a goner anyway.

I mean, I'll wait until morph confirms it, but I think you're right.

Are you going to address this morph?

This is the head that's been out walking her dog and mentally cooling off. Can you point me at what this is about?