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[Mistyx]

because either you're lying about never lying or that's a trust tell

[Cupcake Butterfly]

I like Misty's posts.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I like reading Misty's posts at surface level but when I think about them I understand nothing

[cyrus62]

starting to feel gamma is just a toxic player. so i most likely will just ignore them. as town i dont lie and as scum i still dont lie. so to think i lied or to even suggest i am urks me badly. read my scum games again gamma you will see i do not lie . even in life. my one fault and most likely why i stink at being scum is never ever lieing.

okay then let's test that

are you scum

no

[cyrus62]

because either you're lying about never lying or that's a trust tell

the wife hates it in life and my family does to . i dont lie.

[Gamma Emerald]

starting to feel gamma is just a toxic player. so i most likely will just ignore them. as town i dont lie and as scum i still dont lie. so to think i lied or to even suggest i am urks me badly. read my scum games again gamma you will see i do not lie . even in life. my one fault and most likely why i stink at being scum is never ever lieing.

lmao
So you’re calling me toxic because I distrust you in a game all about doubting people?

[cyrus62]

starting to feel gamma is just a toxic player. so i most likely will just ignore them. as town i dont lie and as scum i still dont lie. so to think i lied or to even suggest i am urks me badly. read my scum games again gamma you will see i do not lie . even in life. my one fault and most likely why i stink at being scum is never ever lieing.

lmao
So you’re calling me toxic because I distrust you in a game all about doubting people?

no im calling you toxic for never trying to read me

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, I can be toxic at times but this is tamer than tame for me

[Gamma Emerald]

starting to feel gamma is just a toxic player. so i most likely will just ignore them. as town i dont lie and as scum i still dont lie. so to think i lied or to even suggest i am urks me badly. read my scum games again gamma you will see i do not lie . even in life. my one fault and most likely why i stink at being scum is never ever lieing.

lmao
So you’re calling me toxic because I distrust you in a game all about doubting people?

no im calling you toxic for never trying to read me

Well in truth I think you could be town but this reaction certainly doesn’t inspire any confidence.
Mistyx is right though that “never lying” is pretty much a trust tell if true

[cyrus62]

my main questin is why hasnt any one besides me bided

[cyrus62]

i should have been out bided by now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just because no one has outbid you doesn’t mean no bidding has taken place

[Gamma Emerald]

Also you won’t be made aware of being outbid until the abilities are given out

[cyrus62]

i dont think docs cant heal them selfs so maybe scum will let me win and nk me.

[cyrus62]

oh that is wrong i ment docs cant heal them selfs.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

You may have been, the auction is only published at mid-day once - it wont be updated with current bids until its over

[Gamma Emerald]

The only times you can tell whether your bid is leading is the midday and day end reports
Any other time is a blind guess

[cyrus62]

if i was scum i would hope one town won all 4 roles or at least both pr roles and take them out.

[marcistar]

I think I was wrong though. Scum could just as easily all agree not to place any bids, to see what town bids before committing any funds. The important thing here is the timing at which the 401 strat was announced. It's very convenient if Imaginality is town, and if he is scum it drives our wallets low enough we can easily be outbid later.

Ahh yeah, i thought scum was just gonna wait to place their bids because they wanna get as much use for their money as they can
you seem so focused on imaginality, are u confident about ur read on them?

if i was scum i would hope one town won all 4 roles or at least both pr roles and take them out.

so like, do u wanna be outbid or not..? im a bit confused, earlier u said u wanted power.. but u seem a bit scared.

[cyrus62]

I think I was wrong though. Scum could just as easily all agree not to place any bids, to see what town bids before committing any funds. The important thing here is the timing at which the 401 strat was announced. It's very convenient if Imaginality is town, and if he is scum it drives our wallets low enough we can easily be outbid later.

Ahh yeah, i thought scum was just gonna wait to place their bids because they wanna get as much use for their money as they can
you seem so focused on imaginality, are u confident about ur read on them?

if i was scum i would hope one town won all 4 roles or at least both pr roles and take them out.

so like, do u wanna be outbid or not..? im a bit confused, earlier u said u wanted power.. but u seem a bit scared.

i didnt think of what it meant for one person to have both pr roles

[Mistyx]

I like reading Misty's posts at surface level but when I think about them I understand nothing

all of my posts have either 3 levels or 0 levels of thought put into them and even i can rarely tell which

[Mistyx]

cyrus’s mindset is weird enough that i kinda wanna call it town

[Gypyx]

votecount 1.5

Gamma Emerald (3) - KittyTacky ; VFP ; Cyrus62
KittyTacky (0)
mastina (0)
Smoke and Mirrors (0)
Cupcake Butterfly (0)
ssbm_Kyouko (1) - Imaginality
Flea The Magician (0)
Mistyx (0)
cyrus62 (0)
imaginality (1) ssbm_Kyouko
marcistar (0)
Distance (2) Marcistar ; Gamma Emerald
VFP (0)

not voting (6) - Everyone else

day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-21 02:12:49)

Marketplace owner

Gamma Emerald (0)
KittyTacky (0)
mastina (0)
Smoke and Mirrors (0)
Cupcake Butterfly (1) - Cupcake Butterfly
ssbm_Kyouko (5) ssbm_Kyouko ; distance ; Gamma Emerald ; Mistyx ; Cyrus62
Flea The Magician (3) - Flea The Magician ; VFP ; Mastina
Mistyx (0)
cyrus62 (0)
imaginality (1) - Imaginality
marcistar (0)
Distance (0)
VFP (0)

Please vote vote for the marketplace owner with HEAL: tags

auction

the auctioned abilities are :

1-shot Cop - the top bet during the mid point is 125

2-shot Doctor - the top bet during the mid point is 125

1-shot Hitman - the top bet during the mid point is 125

1-shot Roleblocker - the top bet during the mid point is 125

announcement

The voting mechanic was evaluated poorly, we are switching to plurality that only takes effect at deadline, sorry for the inconvinience

[imaginality]

5 hours after what is apparently scum trying to gauge where the town is bidding (whether Cyrus is scum or not, tbh he is the only player in the lobby I would say the 125 split is NAI for with confidence). They see nobody is bidding high yet. 5 hours later, in comes Imaginality to lead town toward spending 400 on all roles. Imagine scum dont bid on anything toDay. Town spends 1600,

loses 500, or 100 and a purchased role

, then in the likely situation that they avoid hitting the doctor target and get a kill, that's another 500 down.

The bolded part assumes we mis-exile. We could exile scum...
Even if we grant your assumption, we're 500 (or X and a purchased role) down x2 if scum successfully nightkill regardless of what bidding strategy we implement. It makes no sense not to bid hard - and without a PT the only way we can reliably cover all the PRs (enough to force scum to bid high for them) without scum knowing who to target for their NK is if we each choose randomly.

Where was this strategy before midday? We were already very deep into mechanical discussion when he made his previous post, so why not bring it up before midDay?

Hadn't thought of it by then. At first I was wondering if there was a way we could assign people by name to each PR but that gives scum too much information for their NK tonight and subsequent nights.

While his suggestion is appealing at first, even to me, from a numbers standpoint, I think what they are doing is baiting town into spending a lot of their money so that in later days scum can outbid.

We get our money back if we're outbid.
I think these roles are worth bidding for.
It's less advantageous to us to get roles on later days - less chance to use them, more chance to be NKed before using them.

The next bit gets tinfoil, but I would not be surprised to find out flea is the scum's preferred MO candidate and see that Imaginality eventually concedes and switches his vote there as I'm currently leading. Whether his means flea is scum or one of the scum has a friendly relationship with Flea that may lead Flea to elect that scum as a replacement, I do not know.

Right now if I vote someone other than me as MO I'd lean more towards Cupcake Butterfly.


@Misty re the scumslip: I felt the comment where ssbm assumed the 125 voter was town was suspicious - in that if he is scum (and they aren't the 125 voter(s)), he would know the 125 voter is town. So I feel that apparent assumption could be indicative of hidden knowledge.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mistyx who are you scumreading rn?