Open 820: The Siege of Aurelia — Game Over!

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

Alright, I'm all geared up to protect Castle Aurelia.



Send me where you need me.

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What would those strengths be?

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Not his scumgame that's for certain

Ah - I see.

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unwnd is quite town for page 2. catboi to a lesser extent.

I think there's some amount of advantage we could eke out by controlling where people go but I think we also can get a fair amount of useful info just from where people decide to go on their own. unwnd, since you were specifically worried as scum about town's options to synchronize, I'm curious what exactly you didn't want town to have the option to do.

Congrats. You are scum who has pulled reads out of your ass.

I forgive you for your seal comment.

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Someone please direct this valiant avian knight.

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I'm wearing plate armor...I wouldn't be able to fly even if I could.

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Not all birds fly.

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Aurelia's

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I...did not pick up on that at all.

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No - that makes sense now that you are pointing it out. I just didn't pick up on it.

I'm am living up to my character.

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I mean - I think implosion is scum as well.

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You've also said that in every game we've played in the past x amount of time!

And, I've been right y amount of times!

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Go to the specific area that ssbm was requesting since we are in that selection phase.

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Lol

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Did ssbm object to that?

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My only objection is that I need to put myself in with penguin and skitter so that we can have a thunderdome.

See...now I think you're town.

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Maybe you should work on that.

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I don't think that's the correct way to work on that.

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What stances are you looking for?

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I really don't care where I end up.

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I like you.

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What about his ISO gives you that feeling?

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That’s an odd thing to feel decent about.

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I mean - people have been saying stuff about people with basically nothing so that seems like a selfish action quite early.

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VOTE: death star

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Oh sorry - you didn’t call me town so I thought I should go somewhere so you could view me as town.

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In a sense I've just seized the hammer for myself, and I actually quite like that prospect.

Uh……

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I mean - the immediate is that even if you are town I don’t trust your judgment?

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Like jumping in is antithetical to everything we’ve been doing sans two people

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See previous post.

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Apologies if you actions result in an objective stance that you view as rude. I don’t have solid reads at the moment given game state, though you are helping!

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@mod: v/la through tomorrow

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Ok - I’m back.

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I have no read on PenguinPower lol

Not unusual.

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Not sure what to make of SS. His posts haven't pinged me either way.

Welcome to s_s.

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And i would prefer me at gate

Between the two of us….why?

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Well also welcome to me being V/LA.

Tbf - you refrain from voting d1 in a normal game so…what I said was fine.

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Town you would perform better than town me at the wall and you seemingly town read me?

Mmm

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Especially with s_s and implosion…

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You have a much better track record with s_s than me? Mmm

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Like - idg trying to force scum to certain areas with the yolo adds and the fact there’s no information to really discern alignment in this phase.

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What are suboptimal places for scum?

It seems like where certain townies are matters a lot more.

Yeah - this.

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I still stand stalwart, ready to be assigned.

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i find the fact that unwnd took gate to be rather scummy honestly

I find unwnd scummy, yes.

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i find the fact that unwnd took gate to be rather scummy honestly

I find unwnd scummy, yes.

Nope - I meant catboi

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So what do you think of unwnd?

No strong opinion.

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i find the fact that unwnd took gate to be rather scummy honestly

I find unwnd scummy, yes.

Nope - I meant catboi

catboi didn't take gate

Right…I meant I found catboi scummy, not unwnd. I confused their avatars.

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I think you're looking for excuses to avoid going to the gate now.

SkitteR has been pretty adamant about going gate (or me going gate) since the beginning…what are you on about?

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Mmm - I guess there was some hesitancy, but she’s still fine with going so….idgi

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But you were already preferring to go gate so I don’t see what goading you accomplishes.

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Yeah

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I mean - that was a point in your defense.

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Not sure what you’re hoping to gain further in this phase.

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I've been saying literally all game that while i slightly prefer gate i have no very strong preference.

?

I would probably prefer gate if all else is equal but people tend to have strong feeling abt where to put me

I would prefer gate simply because i thinj doing so will make our chances of having 2-1 scum-town at wall that much higher

I think you're town and i know that i'm town so going to wall i think will dilute that chance from happening some more

Pedit i would have preferred that over dunn joining tbh

Well its a paranoid thought but i dont think *too* likely
I'll hold off but yeah i would want gate and i'm incredibly suspicious of both unwnd and catboi

Goodbye to my hero solve. I've clearly gone wrong somewhere but I don't even know where to start.

How

And i would prefer me at gate

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it's entirely based on forcing scum to unoptimal places for them, that's the last chance we have for that
playwise i don't have a very strong preference either way; i'm not sure it's a given i'd play better than you at wall

@penguin

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Eh - catboi is scum so sure - let’s wait for a crafted message.

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Uh….no. That was so bad.

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Uh…no. Implosion can explain further.

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The fuck

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Says the “I will vote gate imminently” person.

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I’m scrapping everything.

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bull

Scrapping everything.

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Day 1 ends when all players except one have signed up for a location.

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Bull

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I’m pissed.

Out.

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penguin i'm actually kinda confused why you're more annoyed with me than with implo

I didn’t fucking say I was more annoyed with your than implosion.

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Regret that - I’m going to bed

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I’m still very unhappy.

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Then why does implosion lolhammer gate when you were almost assuredly going there?

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But why didn’t you go there given you were imminently going there several times?

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Then why did you ask me?

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I mean - cus, you literally were the reason why the day ended when it did.

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Mmmmm

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I mean - cus, you literally were the reason why the day ended when it did.

I thought gate getting hammered was enuf of a trigger to end the day, i.e. that when i (or implo as the case may be) voted gate the day would end, so i was holding off on the gate vote until we felt the day waa over

I thought when implo voted gate that the day *was* over, i voted wall just to like formalize where i was going, i didnt realize that was the actual trigger

im kinda at the point where a few people seem to be deliberately obtuse and i'm p sure they know better so yeah

Forgive my suspicion.

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here

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Sorry - I should have said I see your vote. Not hammering.

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Usually.

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Kinda just want to wrap my head around everything and think for a bit. I have a bird brain - cut me some slack.

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I mean no but it feels like he has some ulterior motive for wanting me to go there

I have a response to this, but I probably shouldn't say it. Remind me on D2.

Did you respond to this?

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skitter angling for gate and S_S taking wall to let her go to gate bc they'd rather have her at gate than him and that would leave them with more flexibility with their swap.

But she had ample opportunity to take gate and didn't...

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You just hammered gate. I was actively pushing her to take it, as was catboi. Big difference.

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PP, what do you think about the possibility of unwnd/implosion? Feels like implosion would have just sabotaged his team for no reason.

I am leaning toward skitter being scum because of this. The wall should definitely be resolved before the gate, at least.

I don’t really know what to make of it. SkitteR/implosion both did asinine things (if town) and I have a hard time understanding why. Implosion going gate with unwnd already makes little sense, but so does scum!skitt not hammering gate given like a half a day of intent and being pressured to.

I was lowconf reading unwnd as scum going into today, and I guess that hasn’t really changed, but you were gone most of D1 and I can’t really read you well. Unwnd & skitteR could be scum wifoming ig but that swap in a 1-1-1 doesn’t really make sense…skitteR would have been in the best position at the wall with me and you there because I probably could have been convinced to elim you over her. But, I was pretty angry so maybe she didn’t think that?

I’m rambling.

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Look - I like to troll - like I like to troll a lot - but I’m never not taking the W when it’s right there.

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Catboi - should I vote unwnd or s_s?

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That reaction would be so utterly trivial to do. Lol. Your confidence is bizarre.

I actually agree…

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i find the fact that unwnd took gate to be rather scummy honestly

It'd be a very poor move on my part to join gate when Kyouko is scumreading me, on top of me asking you to join Gate as well.

Nice being swapped out though.

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My gut instinct is that unwnd's reactions to skitter do not feel aligned, as they haven't all game.

I don’t agree atm. Pls explain when you can.

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Dunn has done nothing all game. I would be insane to vote him. communism scummily tried to force his way into keep. I would be insane to vote him.

Not technically true given he voted to go to the keep, but maybe we can hush on the keep for now.

Unwnd or s_s?

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Post count is a horrible basis and you aren’t catboi so kindly close it.

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Not sure why you chose to quote my post then.

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By play unwnd. By mech SS?

Pick one.

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Penguin I'm town here and I'm still hoping you're not trolling me because I'd be upset.

I mean - you can repeat that as much as you want but it doesn’t help me.

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I don’t actually need you to tell me anything (your option to respond to 796 but you don’t have to). I’m eliciting opinions from others right now.

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Like I said, I need to reread.

I can wait, but I appreciate the initial thoughts.

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Doesn’t have to be mathematical to be useful.

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Mmmm

15 seconds

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Glad game designers are required to be 100% truthful in their responses to setup questions during a game they’re in.

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That wasn’t a comment toward you - more toward the initial request since the same could have been done.

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Ugh - this has not been helpful so far.

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It’s not due to any one person.

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So I will vote unwnd, there's just no reason to put him in self hammer range yet.

You should go ahead and vote.

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That’s my gut read, but I still don’t understand the hesitation to go to gate on skitteR’s part just to end up with scumSS with me.

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Given the fact that I'm 1-9 (I think?) for all my scumgames and my only win was because I hardbussed my entire scumteam day 1 and was limmed for it if I were scum I would never want to go to keep.

Help me understand this…

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Mmm - but you chose to go keep early on and trying to use your meta to show why you wouldn’t feels gross. Your skitter/ssbm stuff from a skim of D1 wasn’t great…you also seemed to be setting me up for down the road.

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Boop

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Fair.

In terms of my general meta, scum!me busses early on, townreads town, and goes for weird and flashy plays.

Yeah - I used that for my first year or two when playing scum too.

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I think unwnd and S_S should unvote before peng comes online. Just. Because he didnt hammer earlier doesn't mean he wont hammer now that scum is up 1-0. However the fact neither of you unvoted already makes he think peng probably is just town because I find it hard to imagine that 2 townies both didnt have this very same thought.

Pedit: You know if you're town you shouldn't double down on the exact same strat you just used against me and Marci as scum in final 3 S_S

Are you seriously still thinking I can be scum?

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blah blah blah reconfirming i'm town blah blah blah

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As for my own location, I can make a case on unwnd if PP wants, but I wouldn't really expect it to be particularly good. I did correctly scumread him last time, but I just wasn't involved enough in the game this time.

would be helpful

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As for my own location, I can make a case on unwnd if PP wants, but I wouldn't really expect it to be particularly good. I did correctly scumread him last time, but I just wasn't involved enough in the game this time.

would be helpful

you gonna do this?

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Explain it to me from what you're thinking right now.

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Yes - the case on unwnd from your current perspective.

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Probably just going to hammer s_s at this point...I'll eat lunch first.

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If you want me to respond to that penguin I will

Yes pls.

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bonus points for giving me the pagetop

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i know.....

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really wish s_s had been here d1

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I feel like I should be fine to VOTE: Wall at least. I would imagine I'm the least Gate-fit person of everyone left.

Just vote Wall, PP. I think technically one more vote is required to end it.

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I have no read on PenguinPower lol

I don't have much to say about Implo/S_S right now, so you're spared a paragraph about them.

I can't say I really scumread anyone. That's a bit personally frustrating which is why I'm hoping the phase moves on and I have something like data to look at. Everything else is mostly conjecture.

Everyone scumreads me so I'm just gonna go out on a limb and vote the person I think is scum in my pool.

VOTE: something_smart

If pp quick hammers you can evaluate it. I think implo is who I'd vote in other pool

Still townread catboi

Why did you think s_s was scum over me?

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That doesn't really tell me anything. Walk me through what made sense and how you arrived at your PoE.

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fml

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fuck it - i just ate and don't feel like stressing all day

VOTE: s_s

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dann's going to make me stress the rest of the day apparently

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given my own experience with trolling twlight- especially at endgame - i'm still stressing

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well then...

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GG, tense game.

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Thanks for modding, Dann!