But in either case, it’s probably safer to lim between Dan and Psyche and I think Psyche looks much better according to the last VC then Dan, plus we think that slot was doing a lot of dumbtelling. \_0_/
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
i've been assuming until now they couldn't but reread the scumroles again. this would mean there isn't actually a missing n0 actions as actress and seamstress could self target if so
i've been assuming until now they couldn't but reread the scumroles again. this would mean there isn't actually a missing n0 actions as actress and seamstress could self target if so
-Hop
No, a seamstress is not able to self target.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
In post 759, Psyche wrote:
tedious tedious dwlee where is the solve tho
i legit want an explanation for every time you said this and last phase that the game is solved after arc lynch
In post 774, Dwlee99 wrote:PP fmpov you pushed me over arc and so no you don't get any credit for that.
You're also not conftown for the bride because you could have seamstressed or actressed for the VT suit. I wasn't here when you obvtowned so I'll have to go read. My gut is psyche and Dan but I need to do reading which I can't do while moving into a new apartment.
also tell me about your trip from voting dan to "psyche and Dan"
Every time I said what? My "game is solved" comment was because arc flipping scum would have confirmed me and assuming PP town we just lim you and Dan to win.
I don't know what you mean by "trip from." I'm actually just having trouble parsing your whole post.
I mean sure I'm responsible for thinking arc was scum, as is she for playing like that, and I guess I shouldn't have hard leaned into "There can't be two mystics!!" but I don't think I'm uniquely responsible for that one at all.
it just seems like it could easily be strategic laziness. so many of your posts in the iso are lines like "most people seem to think there has to be scum in Arc" while at the same time strongly leaning on a setup-based argument
fundamentally dependent
on that assumption to justify doing no further scumhunting and convince people to join the wagon. even your vote for rock was basically "well this guy likes the wagon so whatever". and yet you say you've only made one negative contribution all game?
Rock also lied about his role, at a certain point I don't even believe I'm responsible for thinking people are evil if they're going to play like they are
For further context I was also in another setup that resulted in similar sounding plausible mech arguments (to tell the truth), and that kind of seeped in here as well
Pedit: Uh I can check but I don't think it's weird of me to go with the flow anyway so why do you think it's weird?
i just feel like one interested in solving should either 1) take the time to work out the setup details themself instead of making references to the "mech consensus" or 2) not primarily use setup to pick and plan wagons
I'm like 95% sure it's just you and Dan and if PP is scum I'm just writing this game off anyway.
I read the setup and thought about it. I didn't only get it through other people. I was questioning why people thought we couldn't have a seamstress when I was looking at the setup. But based on my reading and game state I'm completely right about this setup I think. In 13p mini normals, the town mislims four times and loses. Here we have mislimmed four times and have a conftown. If arc actually flipped scum we would have just needed one town read (probably PP) to guarantee win because I'd be confirmed/dead, t3 confirmed/dead, and it's nightless.
The game I was referencing earlier also had this problem btw. Caught scum day 2 and I was essentially conf, we had a conf, and with one more town read we guaranteed won. It ended up getting way too close (like what's happening this game) but like there is zero reason we shouldn't win this setup if people didn't play completely against win condition.
