Newbie 2077 : The Curse of a Blue Diamond!! - Gameover

[cowsloveSushirolls]

....what

Actually, I feel like this is really Scummy that StD isn't tracking with me here.

another shrug from me, i don't think he ever had the thought that you were trying to marinate him especially since he focused more of the topic of

me

doing it

[kennyk]

I absolutely agree with you, that hearing their point of view would be good. But why not from Save the Dragons (I just noticed that using just the first letters of those three words is no good way to shorten his name) or floo? They didn't respond to this matter either.

Forgot to answer this, but well. I do of course want to hear from everyone, but I want(ed) to hear from Salsa and catboi because I trust them. And Entellian because my read on him could affect my read on you, so I want interaction there.

StD and floo, I'm unsure on alignment-wise, but I don't see anything there changing my scumread on you, so it doesn't matter as much right now to me.

That explanation is satisfying in my eyes. But it leads to another question from me.

The Entellian part is totally understandable. As does your null read on StD and floo. But why do you trust Salsa and trusted catboi?

[LicketyQuickety]

....what

Actually, I feel like this is really Scummy that StD isn't tracking with me here.

another shrug from me, i don't think he ever had the thought that you were trying to marinate him especially since he focused more of the topic of

me

doing it

Could have been ad lib to make me look bad. Will have to see how StD proceeds.

[kennyk]

I almost forgot. As others went higher on my personal scum list and floo didn't post for quite some time (and with that couldn't talk himself into further trouble) I will UNVOTE: floo

[LicketyQuickety]

I almost forgot. As others went higher on my personal scum list and floo didn't post for quite some time (and with that couldn't talk himself into further trouble) I will UNVOTE: floo

Can I get a RL from you?

[Save The Dragons]

....what

Actually, I feel like this is really Scummy that StD isn't tracking with me here.

me - posts unintentional ambiguous post
you - you were talking about me!
me - no i wasn't
you - you meant to post that to make me look bad!!!!
me - what

[kennyk]

RL = read list ?

[LicketyQuickety]

RL = read list ?

Yeah.

[LicketyQuickety]

....what

Actually, I feel like this is really Scummy that StD isn't tracking with me here.

me - posts unintentional ambiguous post
you - you were talking about me!
me - no i wasn't
you - you meant to post that to make me look bad!!!!
me - what

You should have been tracking with my reasoning and you weren't, so...

[Save The Dragons]

....what

Actually, I feel like this is really Scummy that StD isn't tracking with me here.

me - posts unintentional ambiguous post
you - you were talking about me!
me - no i wasn't
you - you meant to post that to make me look bad!!!!
me - what

You should have been tracking with my reasoning and you weren't, so...

your reasoning makes no sense so...

[kennyk]

scum
cls
radical

null
floo
Entellian
Uranus
Salsa
StD
LQ

Yes, I know I am a mistrusting person in this game

[LicketyQuickety]

....what

Actually, I feel like this is really Scummy that StD isn't tracking with me here.

me - posts unintentional ambiguous post
you - you were talking about me!
me - no i wasn't
you - you meant to post that to make me look bad!!!!
me - what

You should have been tracking with my reasoning and you weren't, so...

your reasoning makes no sense so...

Actually, I get that a lot, but it's NAI for me. I'm capable of making cases on Town that get them lynched, and I'm capable of making really good reads and not really giving much reasoning on them at all.

[Save The Dragons]

don't use the l word please

[LicketyQuickety]

don't use the l word please

I keep forgetting sorry.

[Radical Rat]

I absolutely agree with you, that hearing their point of view would be good. But why not from Save the Dragons (I just noticed that using just the first letters of those three words is no good way to shorten his name) or floo? They didn't respond to this matter either.

Forgot to answer this, but well. I do of course want to hear from everyone, but I want(ed) to hear from Salsa and catboi because I trust them. And Entellian because my read on him could affect my read on you, so I want interaction there.

StD and floo, I'm unsure on alignment-wise, but I don't see anything there changing my scumread on you, so it doesn't matter as much right now to me.

That explanation is satisfying in my eyes. But it leads to another question from me.

The Entellian part is totally understandable. As does your null read on StD and floo. But why do you trust Salsa and trusted catboi?

Well, Salsa's been engaging in a way that felt very genuine to me, and while I think her "too solvy" take was a bad one, she did end up being right about you. Her tunneling you D1 doesn't really make sense if you're both scum, so my scumread on you translates to a townread on her.

Catboi was more gut tbh, just felt the Town vibes there. Lickety's posting has done nothing but reinforce that feeling, even if I disagree on things there.

[Radical Rat]

Speaking of disagreeing with LQ...

I think you're reading too much into the StD thing. I don't really think there's anything particularly scummy about being confused by your somewhat jumpy logic here.

[Uranus]

I don't really think STD is all that scummy, infact they likely are in a similar case to me

I dont think catboi now known as LicketyQuickety are all that scummy anymore so I think I can knock my vote off him

Radical is beginning to look more sus and I think kenny is a little better with trust. Sorry if it seems like I'm flip flopping I'm just trying to keep up with walls, this is a different experience

Radical was a bit quick to run onto kenny admittedly and while I haven't fully regained kenny's trust, radical seems a bit more.. radical.

so for now
UNVOTE: LicketyQuickety

Like with kenny, we might need a little more, just a little more though

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: salsa

[cowsloveSushirolls]

humbly requesting prod on entellian

[LicketyQuickety]

humbly requesting prod on entellian

They haven't posted in 5 days... No wonder I can't remember any of their posts... they only have 2.

[LicketyQuickety]

I was ISOing Salsa, and found some posts that pinged me:

Spoiler: Pinged Posts

I think she says kennyk is trying too hard, missing the obvious motive as I pointed out for a scum accusation. It's good that someone is trying to be serious because this is how we move out of RVS, but kennyk is doing this wrong. She may also be accusing kennyk of doing that just to look town. I recall that the term LAMIST is used here for this.

Perfectly explained but I want to add one thing: they said they had an account here before, so they played before here imo. That's why I'm not taking them that much of a newb player and when I read their posts ("

this sus, that sus

"), I found they were trying

too much

which I generally find suspicious.

This looks like either a defense of floo or a buddy attempt.

I think she says kennyk is trying too hard, missing the obvious motive as I pointed out for a scum accusation. It's good that someone is trying to be serious because this is how we move out of RVS, but kennyk is doing this wrong. She may also be accusing kennyk of doing that just to look town. I recall that the term LAMIST is used here for this.

what's the best way to move us outside of RVS, if the way kenny is doing it is "wrong"? is it just because the pushing happened to be on you because he thought your thought process was unclear? what happened in this game seems like just as good of a method as any, which is why i'm asking

I find

LAMIST play

scummy in general basis.
Almost every town games of mine, there was at least one scum

who appeared to be solvy in the early stage of the game

to gain towncred and in my scum games, I also tried to get towncred at RVS stage.

This might be nothing, or it might be made to make CLS look bad while also carrying the same thing of buddy/defence of floo in prior post.

But then I saw a spinet of Kenny's post in 72 in reference to the original post 62.

Why this is interesting is because of what Kenny said here:

@ Uranus: I guess you didn't read the thread properly. After Radical Rats Unvote I am now

'only'

E-2

And given StD and Kenny both come from a different game meta than current MS meta, this indicates to me that the site meta they come from people are generally much more hesitant with their votes and only vote for serious reasons. If this is the case, then Salsa vastly comes from a different meta than these two players because of their constant votes in 39, 40, and 44. What's more is that Salsa actually know this and just keeps voting Kenny for very little reason even though they are already voting for Kenny. And this happened BEFORE Kenny pointed out the 'only' E-2 comment.

Either way, it looks to be the case that Salsa has inside knowledge of Kenny's and StD's game meta that they come from. I'm hesitant to call out SvS interactions so early, but I'm not sure what another conclusion would be given this... the other option, I suppose, is that Salsa is Scum with floo. But this seems unlikely to defend a buddy so directly so early in the game.

Am I going crazy or is there something here?

[Save The Dragons]

i don't come from a different site meta, i've played hundreds of games on this site

[LicketyQuickety]

i don't come from a different site meta, i've played hundreds of games on this site

I didn't say site meta. I said game meta... I mean your history takes you back to a different time in Mafia.

[kennyk]

Just to be clear: I played here and on greylabyrinth in the past. But this is my first mafia game in 15 years. I might have a game meta from way back but I really don't know if I am playing the same way now. I t definitely was a different time then.

As to Salsas multivoting me for being too solvy, I don't think it is that much if a tell (the multivoting part. The reason might give us something). If I recall correctly, it was the second vote on me (after floo). Her second vote on me might just habe been to tip on my toes or to annoy me into a state where I make a mistake. And to be honest, I guess I called for the third vote. So no hard feelings from me for the multivote.

[Salsabil Faria]

i do kind of want to live longer though, maybe if i leave this post here the wind will carry it to Entellian and Radical Rat

You didn’t use self-meta in the last game with me though, didn’t talk about it earlier because it was ongoing.