Open 822: Popcorn Mafia - Game Over!!

[Toogeloo]

I will say one thing about Enchant's iso. He forgot Hectic in his list on who should be shot when Galron had the gun. I want to say that scum are probably more likely to forget a town name than a scum name on a list of players.

My solve still remains Hockey and Vulture today.

[HockeyFan]

Vulutres logs on t3

Spoiler:

(T3 isn't gonna have a good answer for you, Galron, because he's scum.)

Sring/throwing shade at a scum partner doesnt seem too likely this early on

Hockey is screaming newbtown and Art should know better than this.
VOTE: art

Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.

For example. ^

Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".

Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.

Again, I dont think this is a scum interaction, and iirc Vulture's first push of the game was t3 and that just doesnt happen from scum buddies

*Waves hands at whatever this is.*

Same as above point

T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:

I can usually read marci really well hold up

Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.

marcistar

,

Mafia Goon

, eliminated on Day 3

fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.

You are so incredibly wrong.

Or lying, but, you know.

TAKING TIME TO DISCREDIT T3 META READ ON Marci makes vulture omega town imo

T3 logs on vulture

Spoiler:

I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.

t3 wants to shoot Vulture early on

Hey.

Hello.

What's up?

A vulture.

This is the only /akward/ interaction between the 2 but dt its scum

Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.

Calling vulture scum

[HockeyFan]

This is why i dont think they're partners ftr. Also as for Enchant, Vulture didnt mention Enchant at all pretty much and I think scum buddies /want/ to interact with each other a bit

[HockeyFan]

Hi hello Sorry, Im here. I looked through Vultures iso in regards to t3/enchant and dont think they are partners

I don't know that anybody looks especially like partners with enchant. He's done scum that favor at least.

Meanwhile this is Hockey's second post in as many pages like he's forgotten about this game. Sounds disingenuous to me. The first time somebody asked him a question at least. This time it feels like "oof I'd better post something" but there's no substance here.

im.. not sure... toogeloo could be town but im not confident in that...

hockey help me...

Still think they're town for tring hectic/luke cuz as scum, thats super bold

[Lukewarm]

Vulutres logs on t3

Spoiler:

(T3 isn't gonna have a good answer for you, Galron, because he's scum.)

Sring/throwing shade at a scum partner doesnt seem too likely this early on

Hockey is screaming newbtown and Art should know better than this.
VOTE: art

Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.

For example. ^

Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".

Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.

Again, I dont think this is a scum interaction, and iirc Vulture's first push of the game was t3 and that just doesnt happen from scum buddies

*Waves hands at whatever this is.*

Same as above point

T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:

I can usually read marci really well hold up

Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.

marcistar

,

Mafia Goon

, eliminated on Day 3

fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.

You are so incredibly wrong.

Or lying, but, you know.

TAKING TIME TO DISCREDIT T3 META READ ON Marci makes vulture omega town imo

T3 logs on vulture

Spoiler:

I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.

t3 wants to shoot Vulture early on

Hey.

Hello.

What's up?

A vulture.

This is the only /akward/ interaction between the 2 but dt its scum

Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.

Calling vulture scum

I don't think that anything in t3's iso would lead me to think he could not be partners with vulture. (You even completely missed where t3 called vulture town by meta....)

But I guess I looked more closely in t3's then in vultures...

I can see that looks less partnery. Unless the scum team was on board for a t3 bus

[Lukewarm]

On board early I mean

[marcistar]

bestie luke whos the scumteam

[Lukewarm]

Toog is town town ready

I'm leaning town on pav as well.

So, I think they are both in (hectic, hockey, and vulture)

I'm less sure who is the most likely pair inside of that tho

[Lukewarm]

If I had to choose one shot atm....

I don't know if I would shoot hectic or one of [hockey / vulture] tho.

Hectic is probably the best person of the three to have the gun if we shoot wrong, so maybe him just for that reason?

[Lukewarm]

Toog is town town ready

This was supposed to say "Toog is a town read" and like I know I'm phon roosting, but togg is town town ready is an odd way for that to end up. I kind of like it tho.

Toog can be town town ready for now

[Lukewarm]

Jesus Christ

[Toogeloo]

[HockeyFan]

Vulutres logs on t3

Spoiler:

(T3 isn't gonna have a good answer for you, Galron, because he's scum.)

Sring/throwing shade at a scum partner doesnt seem too likely this early on

Hockey is screaming newbtown and Art should know better than this.
VOTE: art

Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.

For example. ^

Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".

Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.

Again, I dont think this is a scum interaction, and iirc Vulture's first push of the game was t3 and that just doesnt happen from scum buddies

*Waves hands at whatever this is.*

Same as above point

T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:

I can usually read marci really well hold up

Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.

marcistar

,

Mafia Goon

, eliminated on Day 3

fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.

You are so incredibly wrong.

Or lying, but, you know.

TAKING TIME TO DISCREDIT T3 META READ ON Marci makes vulture omega town imo

T3 logs on vulture

Spoiler:

I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.

t3 wants to shoot Vulture early on

Hey.

Hello.

What's up?

A vulture.

This is the only /akward/ interaction between the 2 but dt its scum

Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.

Calling vulture scum

I don't think that anything in t3's iso would lead me to think he could not be partners with vulture. (You even completely missed where t3 called vulture town by meta....)

But I guess I looked more closely in t3's then in vultures...

I can see that looks less partnery. Unless the scum team was on board for a t3 bus

iirc, Vulture was the first /real/ push on t3, so idt he would even need to bus there

[Pavowski]

(town town ready is how I'm saying it at least for the rest of this game)

(I'm trying to avoid phon roosting myself)

[marcistar]

does everyne townread luke

[Pavowski]

No. I still think he leans scum, but a big part of that is I still think there's scum in (hectic, Luke) and I think hectic is more likely the TTR side of that

Maybe 70-30 there

[marcistar]

what do u think about hockey

[Lukewarm]

does everyne townread luke

I think more people are scum reading me then are town reading me atm

[Pavowski]

what do u think about hockey

Also lean scum there

[marcistar]

does everyne townread luke

I think more people are scum reading me then are town reading me atm

i am not the brightest

what do u think about hockey

Also lean scum there

who do u townread then wtf

[Pavowski]

Hectic and Vulture.

Toog is firmly in the middle.

Hockey and Luke first in my POE.

[HockeyFan]

Hmph, Pav tring Hectic is intresting. Might make him more town lmao

[Pavowski]

Who, me or Hectic?

I've been TRing that slot for a while, like since he and Luke were head-to-head. I just simultaneously think shooting him is not a bad idea, especially since we have misses to give and I think he *could* be fleecing me, though I kinda don't think he is.

[Lukewarm]

Vulutres logs on t3

Spoiler:

(T3 isn't gonna have a good answer for you, Galron, because he's scum.)

Sring/throwing shade at a scum partner doesnt seem too likely this early on

Hockey is screaming newbtown and Art should know better than this.
VOTE: art

Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.

For example. ^

Decides that he is going to defend Hockey because complex thoughts (when 177 isn't complex and there are other things you could say about it if you feasibly wanted to townread it, like the fact that Hockey mentally went "I am agreeing with T3 on Luke... but T3/Luke is a pairing" not even bothering to present himself as town because he knows it; complex is a buzzword meant to sound like you're reading into things when you're not) and thus, because Art does not agree, goes after Art without trying to engage beyond "you know better".

Everything's shallow from T3. Not-complex, if you want.

Again, I dont think this is a scum interaction, and iirc Vulture's first push of the game was t3 and that just doesnt happen from scum buddies

*Waves hands at whatever this is.*

Same as above point

T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:

I can usually read marci really well hold up

Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.

marcistar

,

Mafia Goon

, eliminated on Day 3

fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.

You are so incredibly wrong.

Or lying, but, you know.

TAKING TIME TO DISCREDIT T3 META READ ON Marci makes vulture omega town imo

T3 logs on vulture

Spoiler:

I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.

t3 wants to shoot Vulture early on

Hey.

Hello.

What's up?

A vulture.

This is the only /akward/ interaction between the 2 but dt its scum

Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.

Calling vulture scum

The more that I think about this, the weirder it is that Hockey just left these posts out when he said he was putting interactions between the two

Spoiler:

I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.

I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.

So whats your read on Vulture based on this game?

I'm up to 3 names on my hipfire list.

The people you want to hipfire are presumably people you SR, so whats the point of hiding this info from town

Lean town.

Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.

And then he characterizes this post as calling vulture scum. When what it really says is "IF art is scum, THEN vulture is scum"


Which looking at that post again, kind of does make hectic less likely to be scum.

I am liking the Hockey+Vulture solve a bit more.

[Lukewarm]

Also, marci. Please shoot soon