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[geraintm]

i aint voting anywhere outside the Kayzan/DGB/Enchant/Nathan block today.

[Enchant]

Don't worry!

After we fail again (i somehow think we will), we have atleast 50% chance to quess right! Maybe we win simple by dumb luck.

Who to vote today... Need to think.

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Vote Count 4.1

Not Voting(5)Nathann;Enchant;DrippingGoofball;geraintm;Kazyan;

Ythan

JacksonVirgo

(1)Dwlee99;

Kazyan (1)Ythan;

Nathann (0)

DrippingGoofball (0)

Dwlee99 (0)

Enchant

MargotRosa

(0)

geraintm (0)

No Elimination (0)

With 7 alive it is 4 to execute.

Day 4 begins and ends in (expired on 2021-09-16 17:03:00) or when an elimination has been achieved.

[geraintm]

VOTE: kayzan nto sure why i havent started with this, it is where i am going to end up

[Dwlee99]

Gera is your case just that kazyan has been on every wagon and they flipped town? Am I missing something?

[DrippingGoofball]

I miscounted. We are seven alive, not five.

So 2 scums 5 townies. I just need to find 4 more townies. Kazyan is one. So 3 more.

Geriantm also town. I need two more.

[geraintm]

Gera is your case just that kazyan has been on every wagon and they flipped town? Am I missing something?

at the moment, until i do more work looking at their actual votes, that is the case. im just playing the odds

[Dwlee99]

Counterpoint: Kazyan has been very townie.

[geraintm]

Counterpoint: Kazyan has been very townie.

voting townies out every single time is not very townie

[Dwlee99]

Well it's not good for town but "voted out town" isn't a scum tell unless it's paired with something like opportunism. Don't think Kazyan's votes have seemed opportunistic though

[Enchant]

Counterpoint: Kazyan has been very townie.

voting townies out every single time is not very townie

What your list proves, expect for your lazyness in voting?

[geraintm]

VOTE: AliceK

Can we wagon Dwlee instead or is that not gonna be possible with 20 hours left

oml we've gotta eliminate someone. Neither Nathan nor geraintm want to vote Alice, so can we VOTE: Dwlee?

VOTE: AliceK

Kayzan's Day 1 end of play votes.

Whatever, I'll deal with you later.

Hey Titus, how ya doin'? VOTE: Titus

this was their vote on Titus. it was 1333. Elimination was 1401
i canot see any obvious reasoning to vote Titus in their preceeding votes. there was nothing but waffle after this vote the rest of the day, just promises to solve things the next day and how their reads are getting flipped.

VOTE: GrandpaMo

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that was the hammer on GrandpaMo

We're not really "set" on anyone. The two wagons are both people that I'm comfortable yeeting.

this was earlier. they were equally happy to eliminate Ythan, and their posts leading up to the vote on grandpamo were pushing ythan much, much harder.

The biggest info flip right now would be GMo, so that we can properly read all of those reactions to him. Or maybe gera, with the info being "wtf is gera doing", but we don't need to know that to win the game yet.

These plans are more for Day 4, though--it looks like we have a broad consensus on executing Ythan today instead of DGB. I'm willing to wait a little longer for Ythan's input, but if this goes on until the mod starts searching for a replacement, I'll just vote and get it over with.

this is the reasoning post on why to vote for grandpamo - for infomation.
and getting people to agree that Ythan is the consensus elimination....but as i said, voting grandpamo who is town.

yeah, if they have accidentally voted townies every single time and have this reasoning then they stink if they are town, or else stink due to that fresh scum smell.

i am very, very happy with my vote.
the alternative is me

[geraintm]

Counterpoint: Kazyan has been very townie.

voting townies out every single time is not very townie

What your list proves, expect for your lazyness in voting?

happier now with my vote?

[geraintm]

Well it's not good for town but "voted out town" isn't a scum tell unless it's paired with something like opportunism. Don't think Kazyan's votes have seemed opportunistic though

i strongly beg to differ.#

this is about the part of the game where i start getting really, really strong opinions and it will be almost impossible to get me to shift from them, just to warn everyone.

[Enchant]

This is actually makes sense now.

[Kazyan]

if someone is going to make a case i am scum, then please try so we can get past that quickly and look at real suspects.

i have bad reads and i am always unable to persuade anyone else in their validity....so maybe they aren't bad?

You're not scum; you're the ancient sage on the mountain and I'm trying to figure out if you're a kook or have actual ancient wisdom. That last sentence seems like a good point.

Since you think I'm scum, who do you think is the other one?

[geraintm]

Since you think I'm scum, who do you think is the other one?

you are going to need to go way beyond just saying you think i am scum at this point of the game.
you are going to need to show how I, as scum, have pushed this game to the current state.

I want to do some NKA with geraintm in mind. gera has been townread by almost everyone after day 1, while having a set of reads that diverge a lot from consensus. Do the deaths of Kyo and Andre--instead of ger at any point--tall us anything about how accurate those reads are, or gera's alignment?

this was your last post about me. it said i was being town read by most people, and that my reads are different to everyone else's.

as i have not been on any eliminations i take pride in that fact, and i am curious how you are going to try and spin me not being wrong every single day (unlike yourself who...checks notes...has voted for a townie every single day).

[geraintm]

sorry - i misread some of your post, am an idiot.

i dont know who else is scum. i think you are the most likely person to be scum through voting and explanations of those votes. i am more than happy to worry about that later.

[geraintm]

i also thing your picture is a QR code every time i see it

[geraintm]

the misread was "Since you think I'm scum" - i twisted it to since i think you are scum"

[DrippingGoofball]

Well it's not good for town but "voted out town" isn't a scum tell unless it's paired with something like opportunism. Don't think Kazyan's votes have seemed opportunistic though

If Kazyan is town, and I think he is, he can set his location to "Bad Player Jail" after the game.

[DrippingGoofball]

Geraintm's post has shaken my faith in Kazyan a little bit.

[Kazyan]

I'm

not

happy to let you worry about that later. What I'm seeing is a fellow townie being laser-focused on me, in 5:2, when we have no investigative roles or anything, our PoE is falling apart, and multiple other people sussing me. Basically, if 1) you're not willing to vote for anyone but me, and 2) we get another miselim (and it's not me or you that gets yeeted), then we lose.

And since we've sucked, our PoE is pointing to Ythan, but the wise sage on the mountain says that Ythan isn't scum...who do we vote for?

P-edit: Agreed, DGB. I keep making the mistake of forming scumreads, which are always bad, instead of townreads, which are generally passable.

[Kazyan]

I mean obviously your answer to "who do we vote for" is "Kazyan", but let's pretend for a second that I'm town. Now who do we vote for?

[Enchant]

Well it's not good for town but "voted out town" isn't a scum tell unless it's paired with something like opportunism. Don't think Kazyan's votes have seemed opportunistic though

If Kazyan is town, and I think he is, he can set his location to "Bad Player Jail" after the game.

Wtf, why bad player? He atleast tried and provided analysis.

Everyone here fails gradually, including you (if you town) and me.