open 826; trist fall (over)

[Pavowski]

Hey everybody, I am back from work, what did I miss, nothing major I hope

just pretend nothing happened and dont reread so we can test your informed level.

Joke's on you, I skimmed enough to see you basically fired a missile into this game

[Faker]

I won't apologize to Koba but I will apologize to the rest of the game. Losing my cool has been a distraction that added nothing.

I'll be back tomorrow, but I hope I didn't get in the way of people actually trying to make sense of the reactions.

very mature of you

The pure and innocent intentions sparkle and scatter light all around like the most brilliant of diamonds

[DkKoba]

Hey everybody, I am back from work, what did I miss, nothing major I hope

just pretend nothing happened and dont reread so we can test your informed level.

Joke's on you, I skimmed enough to see you basically fired a missile into this game

xoxo this is town fellas

[tris]

DkKoba and Infinity 324 trust each other.

they each leave the most crisp and tasty apple they can find as an offering before they go. yum!
trist (me) eats the apples, which are great (thank you!), but Infinity 324's was

poison

(thank you!).

one/two poisons

DkKoba

town

Infinity 324

mafia

next?

[Thor Ragnarok]

Death and destruction

[Faker]

Oh, there's no night phase.

That works, I guess.

[Faker]

I guess I'll go for a run then get back on the grind.

Curious as to where other people think we should start — I'm inclined to think Meg, Enchant, inutile, and Skitter are all town roughly in that order.

[Pavowski]

Welp that was a thing. I guess I am less inclined to fire a quick trust now. Want to read back over some of that madness but ... what a yikes

[skitter30]

i

could you put words to why i am at the bottom of pairings list please

if you want, don't really have to,

it's a combo of:
- poe (several people i thought had a *very* towny reaction to that debacle)
- infy's strongly objecting to my scumreading of you felt somewhat partner-y (or maybe white-knight-y. i'm still kinda mulling this over)
- feel like you didn't have *as* emotional reaction to koba as i might have expected

(i.e. i'm kinda replicating my reasoning for clearing ydra vs ceph in radio buzz after the ssbm self-hammer, people with strongly emotional reactions there are probably town)

[skitter30]

i think last scum is in thor/pavowski/inutile, and that faker should be in the next pairing

[skitter30]

faker/meg would probably be my ideal?
or faker/pooky
idk

[Faker]

Pavowski, since you're likely to miss it in the cascade, I asked a question I am still very curious about here:

12 days is a brutal long time to wait. Waiting makes the game not fun.

I plan to fire off a trust or two within a day or so.

After reading through a few of your games, I'm increasingly curious about the reason for this. You don't hesitate to comment on mechanics as scum.

[Faker]

faker/meg would probably be my ideal?
or faker/pooky
idk

Why this pairing, and why Day 3 as opposed to 2 or 4?

[Faker]

Or did you mean Day 2? Sorry, you had pitched me going in the third pairing previously but maybe you've changed to the immediate next

[skitter30]

uh it's just in order of how strong i townread people, you're my strongest,and then it would be pooky or meg, probably meg

and i meant this phase, if i wasn't clear

pedit yeah i was thinking meg/enchant were unlikely to be scum given that infinity just took the first hammer but i'm feeling less confident in that now it's been pointed out she had time to strategize, so i'm just going by strongest townreads down

[Pavowski]

Pavowski, since you're likely to miss it in the cascade, I asked a question I am still very curious about here:

12 days is a brutal long time to wait. Waiting makes the game not fun.

I plan to fire off a trust or two within a day or so.

After reading through a few of your games, I'm increasingly curious about the reason for this. You don't hesitate to comment on mechanics as scum.

I'm happy to answer but I'm not sure I understand your question. You want me to explain why I want(ed) to give a quick trust?

[Faker]

Yeah, I'm curious as to your motivation for wanting to trust and get out of the game quickly as town.

[Faker]

uh it's just in order of how strong i townread people, you're my strongest,and then it would be pooky or meg, probably meg

and i meant this phase, if i wasn't clear

pedit yeah i was thinking meg/enchant were unlikely to be scum given that infinity just took the first hammer but i'm feeling less confident in that now it's been pointed out she had time to strategize, so i'm just going by strongest townreads down

I am very selfish and would prefer not to exit until the last or next to last pairing. There's no strategic basis for this — I just love playing and don't want to stop. The game is compromised in integrity but order and ability to play is somewhat restored.

[Faker]

I am willing to go this cycle if we can't think of any other universally agreed upon pairings and people need more time, but I'd really prefer using that only as a last resort.

[skitter30]

ah ok, now that you said that i recall you saying something similar, early, sorry

ig we can try to find other pairings first, but i would definitely want you to leave before the equivalent of elo or whatever, i do think ur pretty townie

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the only person i am willing to townread out of that disaster shitshow sized hole in the game koba left atm is faker

you guys are going to have to sell me on others

[skitter30]

well he's my strongest townread but doesn't want to leave >.>

i still townread meg for like pre-koba positng

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if meg is town why doesnt infinity leave with meg and leave koba behind?

[skitter30]

i don't know but at least one of meg/enchant is town and she didn'tn leave with either so for whatever reason she wasn't using that logic

also i forgot that enchant posted after the trusts but before infy did, so he's a townread too

[Faker]

Fundamentally, everyone else has the same argument as me, but someone's got to go.

We'll see, for now I'd really recommend revisiting that early inutile/Infinity interaction. I read a fair bit of the last trust fall to try and get a read on inutile, and part of that was Infinity's interactions with it there.

Infinity wound up YOLO trusting inutile to lose the game, confident that inutile was town. She's in a bind here, as she has to think of some way to interact with inutile without being overconfident or throwing in the towel entirely. She opts for a middle road like this that also allows her to try to ingratiate herself with skitter:

skitt i feel like shiki's posting is a bit too mech-focused to be ai so far? for me it's harder to see her towny thought process in mech in open setups at least

hm, is there a plan for reading me then?

find a townread and ask them is a consideration for sure

mostly gonna look at how you develop your reads though

This really points to both being town imo, even if this is hypothetically fakeable from both of their ends. It is worth noting that this plan is exactly in the vein of Infinity was portraying in post 27 to start.