Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[ssbm_Kyouko]

town!Dunn means that DGB was strongmanned through a conduited doctor ability.
scum!Dunn means that Dunn absorbed any abilities that came in from the dead, and would do so again, which would mean there would be no way to stop the kill and activate the dayvig.

If we lim Dunn and he is town, and scum succeed in killing, we lose (provided GiF is Town and does not come back toMorrow). I don't think GiF, if town, does not come back toMorrow. Most likely I think he is town and is coming back. If he's scum (which seems possible solely from a setup perspective now, considering how many kills town is in control of), we still don't lose for eliminating Dunn.

I think a Dunn lim is our best bet and only loses is LLD is a strongman and GiF is town and GiF does not come back toMorrow.

[Lukewarm]

i'm loathe to claim this

Sorry, but I felt like I needed to know.

I gathered that you were a vig in some way, and I needed to make sure that you did not kill dgb last night with it (because you really seemed to want it dead). I see now that it would not be available with that claim.

My thinking revolved around wondering if there was ever a chance that S_S did doctor dgb via Dunn, but then dgb was killed twice (scum + you)

[ssbm_Kyouko]

pedit (LLD Claim): Interesting. I kinda want to eliminate Dunn the most now as he has that undead magnet/conduit ability which could fuck with S_S doctoring from the grave. If he is scum and he inherited the magnet, there's no way S_S will be able to stop the scumkill if his doctor is pulled onto Dunn. But if he's town and is the conduit, does it mean S_S won't be able to doc anymore? hmmmm...

what is this even trying to say
there was nothing about doctoring from the grave from what I can tell?

Dunn claimed he is a conduit for the undead. He says he inherited S_S's undead magnet, but the "weakened" version of the magnet was to become a conduit instead. I saw Dunn target DGB. Dunn says he didnt do that, so the only explanation, if Dunn is town, is that a townie targeted DGB from the grave and I saw Dunn perform the dead townie's action. The only player that was dead at the time I was tracking Dunn was S_S. S_S's ability was 2-shot doctor. I'm assuming he retained the shots and is able to use them.from the grave, if Dunn is telling the truth.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

what the fuck

I told you. Too much DPS=Too many kills.

But then most of the people who had kill abilities flipped town so wtf?

[Lukewarm]

pedit (LLD Claim): Interesting. I kinda want to eliminate Dunn the most now as he has that undead magnet/conduit ability which could fuck with S_S doctoring from the grave. If he is scum and he inherited the magnet, there's no way S_S will be able to stop the scumkill if his doctor is pulled onto Dunn. But if he's town and is the conduit, does it mean S_S won't be able to doc anymore? hmmmm...

what is this even trying to say
there was nothing about doctoring from the grave from what I can tell?

Gamma.....

Dunn has claimed to be a conduit for the dead to use abilities.

S_s flipped as a doc.

We have talked about the possibility of ss (or other dead players) using Dunn this way.

However, it does not look to be the case, because when Dunn targeted dgb, ss was the only one dead and dgb died (so not doctored via ss)

[ssbm_Kyouko]

LLD's claim lines up with her crumbs tbh. I'm going to vote Dunn.

Do we want to coordinate actions at all? Sounds like only Wheme and I have actives and nobody has a way to stop the scumkill except maybe S_S.

Actually since I'm set on this I'm going to claim the rest of my role. I'm a self-activated watcher. I can watch any player I have previously tracked, but can only watch any given player once during the game. I cannot multitask, so if we no lim, for example, I cant track someone else while I watch Dunn.

I'm claiming this in the hopes S_S will guess who the scum are likely to kill and protect either me or wheme

That is why I targeted Dunn, because I expected he would be NKed later, but not N1. It just so happened that he was the trooky tanuki doing the kill and I got lucky

[Lukewarm]

VOTE: Dunn

[Lukewarm]

You Ninja'd me

UNVOTE:

We might should talk night actions first

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Actually if I track Kate and wheme rolecops someone we need to confirm, like Gamma, Cabd, or LLD maybe? Then I'll be put into Kate's hood and effectively I'll be Watching Kate because any kill on Kate would go into the hood with me and I'd have a guilty on my hood partner in the morning. Only Wheme and I are supposed to be able to visit Kate according to claims, so as long as only one of us goes to Kate, there isn't even the WIFOM of "but that one could have just killed Kate instead of tracking/rolecopping" them. We could go vice versa as well. Wheme rolecops Kate and I track someone else, then if Kate wakes up dead Wheme tells us who did it.

Kate, are you down for either of those plans?

[Kate Bishop]

Kills don’t join our hood.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Theres the possibility scum tries to use LLD to kill Kate but S_S is able to stop that. Kind of a rock paper scissors

Pedit: oh rats

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't know what to believe anymore

[Kate Bishop]

In my opinion, both of you should flip a coin between Cabd and Gamma overnight. Don’t confirm it in thread beforehand.

[Lukewarm]

I think it's rolecop gamma ?

Does anyone have a better idea?

[Lukewarm]

Oh

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Welp, I dont think there's anything else we can optimize about night actions unless Cabd or Gamma have an active they haven't shared?

Tbh, if Cabd is town, wheme is town, and the "help" he can give Shiro/Sora, I am hopeful means that if wheme dies while rolecopping, Wheme will be able to pass his result to Cabd somehow, either reflexively or via a PT.

Wheme I guess I would urge you not to target Cabd then, as your result may come back to him if you die.

[Lukewarm]

Okay.

VOTE: Dunn

[Kate Bishop]

Wait please! Don't vote yet!

I'm hoping that Cabd and I can talk tonight, and then we'll drop a treatise.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't feel good about this
I feel like kyoukoo is perspective slipping somewhat

[Gamma Emerald]

dunn could be scum or town but kyouko's certainty in his role doesn't feel right

[Kate Bishop]

Yeah Wheme is definitely town

Show your work, please.

Your prior mentions of Wheme today are 3373 which is in favor of a wheme kill, 3650 where you shade his claim, 3763 where you mention his flavor, 3896 where you ask about Whemes Dunn read and never follow up, and 3918 where you include him in one scumteam then disqualify him for Cabd looking for the shirk flavor, despite Cabd being in every scum pool proposed in that post?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Rather than coin flip I think it makes sense for wheme to rolecop anyone besides cabd. For me I don't think there's an ideal target, though I do think I am the ideal doctor target as Wheme's result will possibly be passed to Cabd somehow. That could be too speculative though, and S_S presumably only has 1 doc left, so I wont get a Watch off (while I'm alive) anyways

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'll wait for Cabd/Kate to talk, not really in a rush

[Gamma Emerald]

even if cabd is scum he cant be aligned with wheme because the way cabd was looking for shiro seems like it's at least accurate in that shiro is town

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Also laughable that after seeing me in owners market blitz you think I'm perspective slipping