Mini 666 - This Could Be Mafia - MOD ABANDONED

TonyMontana · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:57 am

negative unvote, vote: jimmybot

populartajo · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:19 am

I dont think skitzer planned somethin to happen but this is a democracy.
HAMMAHHH

Negative Unvote Negative Vote : Jimmybot.

And Im going to ask him politely. Muerrto, can you do a PBPA or a player analysis? I will do one tomorrow.

skitzer · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:59 am

Vote Count Equations At the Moment:

populartajo = +fuzzylightning+Muerrto+Falcone+Grimmy = 4
Muerrto = +populartajo+TonyMontana+competentpsycho = 3
Grimmy = +Vivian Darkblaam+Voodo = 2
TonyMontana = +Battousai+ShadowGirl = 2
Falcone = +Erg0 = 1
Erg0 = = 0
Vivian Darkblaam = = 0
Voodo = = 0
Battousai = = 0
fuzzylightning = = 0
ShadowGirl = = 0
competentpsycho = = 0

Jimmybot = -Vivian Darkblaam-Erg0-ShadowGirl-competentpsycho-Grimmy-TonyMontana-populartajo = -7

Not Voting = -Falcone-Muerrto-Voodo-Battousai-fuzzylightning = -5

FoS Count:

Falcone has pointed two fingers of suspicion at TonyMontana!
Battousai has pointed a finger of suspicion at Timeater!
Falcone has pointed a finger of suspicion at Battousai!
Battousai has pointed a finger of suspicion at TonyMontana!
Battousai has pointed a finger of suspicion at Voodo!
Falcone has pointed a finger of suspicion at populartajo!
Muerrto has pointed a finger of suspicion at TonyMontana!
Muerrto has pointed a finger of suspicion at competentpsycho!
Muerrto has pointed a finger of suspicion at Grimmy!

Note: The win condition may not be the same for all players and/or factions.

"Soon, the twelve inhabitants of the sphere thought well to do something with their newly found power. They all pointed their negative charges at the rock on the ground they had decidedly named JimmyBot, as no other JimmyBot existed upon this sphere. Soon, the rock glowed a vibrant green, and, after poking it many times, the inhabitants found out that this rock was now indestructable.

JimmyBot,

Pet Rock

, Cannot Be Lynched, Day 1.

TonyMontana · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:09 am

Does this mean a negative majority is also a lynch?
Who wanna volunteer to be human test dummy?

competentpsycho · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:26 am

To me it seems more like it makes them lynch proof for that day. Good thing we tested it on a rock.

negative unvote

No need. All negative votes were removed after the cannot-be lynch.

I think this rule only is in effect for day 1 though.

ShadowGirl · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:26 am

CP, do you mean that you think that we can only lynchproof someone on the first day? Or that all negative votes will be removed after we negative lynch someone?

Tony, considering that we haven't gone to night, I think that would mean it's not a lynch.

competentpsycho · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:37 pm

Note what I put in red:

skitzer wrote:The Energizer Bunny,
Positive and Negative Vote Creator
, exploded, Day 1

It is now
Day 1
.
Today, you have a special rule in place:

Positive and Negative Vote:
Each of you has 1 positive vote and 1 negative vote. Positive votes increase the number of votes by 1, while negative votes decrease it by 1. Please vote using the forms
Positive Vote
and
Negative Vote
.

So yes, I believe we can only cast negative votes D1 and therefore only lynchproof someone through negative votes on D1. The "today" made it seem like there may be other special rules coming for other days. I am not going to say we can only lynchproof someone D1 (most likely this is true though) since one of the special rules to come may make that ability possible again.

TonyMontana · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:42 pm

I read it as "lynch attempt failed" but I see now that it makes more sense that we turned it unlynchable.

Vivian Darkblaam · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:06 pm

Yeah, flavor text calling the rock "now indestructable" points to a lynch immunity. Good to know, but probably not that practical. If somebody was well liked/trusted enough to receive enough negative votes to become immune, it's not like there would be much danger of them being lynched anyway.

ShadowGirl · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:23 pm

JimmyBot, Pet Rock,
Cannot Be Lynched
, Day 1.

Yeah, lynch immunity.

Mod, Erg0 still hasn't posted since the prod, what's the situation?

He has PMed me and says he will catch up. Meanwhile, pickemgenius replaces Voodo.

populartajo · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:27 pm

Busy as hell so that analysis will have to wait till weekend but what about nightkilling inmunity as well?

competentpsycho · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:36 pm

I didn't see anything pointing to NK immunity, but it is possible.

ShadowGirl · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:22 am

It's possible, but I think for today it's only a lynch immunity.

Battousai · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:56 am

I think for today, we should get back to scumhunting

Now Falcone, you gave a list of people who you wouldn't care if they are lynched. Could you give us some reasons why?

pickemgenius · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:26 am

hello i am replacing somebody.

i will read the first half of the game tonight and give thoughts and stuff then tomorrow do the last half.

Muerrto · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:56 am

Waiting to hear from the new guy. Why did we negative vote a pet rock? Why is there speculation on what the negative vote did when the mod clearly stated what it did? I agree with Viv that the negative vote is pointless cause if someone was that well liked we wouldn't need to worry about them being lynched. Wll try and do a re-read but so far nothing really standing out except the Tony/Tajo thing. If either 1 is scum the other obv is.

populartajo · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:58 am

Muerrto, lets do things easier for the two of us. Can you summarize why I am still scum?

Muerrto · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:15 pm

populartajo wrote:Muerrto, lets do things easier for the two of us. Can you summarize why I am still scum?

1. In my experience, when your defense is 'I'm town and you're stupid' you end up being scum. Every post or attack against you was answered with some version of that quote. If that's not the case, try to be more civil and build a logical defense.

2. Turning my agreeing that Time was acting weird/scummy into 'ALWAYS agreeing with you' and my later disagreement with you into a '180' was the biggest stretch I've seen in quite a few games. Either really over-reacting town or stretching scum. It feels more like the second definitely.

3. You have no problem with the massive buddying Tony's been giving you all game. If he's scum and you're town and you have that win condition, why would you all of a sudden take him for obv town just because he says he has it too? Your posts read like you consider him confirmed town when he could easily be scum buddying up. Either you hadn't thought of that or he's your partner. Again siding with the latter.

4. You claimed way too early and expected everyone to take it as gospel. When some didn't you became irate and began insulting/attacking them. Again, if you're not scum, you should be able to build a defense and you should expect that the town isn't going to just believe your word. This is mafia. If you're scum and you fake claim however you can fake being angry that people aren't believing you as an appeal to emotion. Again, you've played like the latter rather than the former.

That's all I can think of at the moment. If you can refute those civily and logically maybe we can get somewhere.

populartajo · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:26 pm

@All
Kay. If I was an ass I apologize but everyone who has played mafia knows that sometimes its pretty frustrating when you DO defend logically but no one catches it until it's too late. I have realized that Im not good when pointing out my ideas and that I sometimes get angry because no one seems to understand me. In fact, I was lynched as a townie lately in a game (still ongoing) for this same behavior and I DEFINITELY dont want it to happen here. You are free to check my post history.
@Muerrto
I will respond your posts later this evening to show how wrong your appreciations are but the curious thing, Muerrto, is that you think I am scum for reasons that are posterior to your vote. There's no reason for that illogical vote, then?
Also how about you comment on all players here?

Muerrto · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:39 pm

populartajo wrote:I will respond your posts later this evening to show how wrong your appreciations are but the curious thing, Muerrto, is that you think I am scum for reasons that are posterior to your vote. There's no reason for that illogical vote, then?
Also how about you comment on all players here?

Sorry, just did a PBPA in another game, you can check. And being accused of lurking in a couple games and it's pissing me off =p

As for the vote, you asked for me to be prodded over a weekend when I'd posted just the day before. Meta me if it makes you feel better but there is NOTHING that ticks me off more than that.

I've abondoned games for that. Thankfully the mod didn't prod me.

So illogical? Maybe but I had already voiced my worry that you had such a problem with me agreeing with you about Time. Why?

After my vote your reaction just made it stay.

pickemgenius · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:58 pm

shit not gonna finish first part tonight cause internets going off in 2 min, just gonna hafta crank it out tomorrow uggh.

TonyMontana · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:23 am

You have no problem with the massive buddying Tony's been giving you all game.

Massive!

Vivian Darkblaam · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:09 pm

Sup, pickem.

Muerrto wrote: As for the vote, you asked for me to be prodded over a weekend when I'd posted just the day before. Meta me if it makes you feel better but there is NOTHING that ticks me off more than that.

I've abondoned games for that. Thankfully the mod didn't prod me.

Seriously? You should probably chill out a tad (but actually related to this game, I would like to see an example of this claim before I beleive it).

Skeptical regarding the merits of Muerrto's (finally) condensed case, but I'd like to see what tajo comes out with first before I put in my two cents.

Muerrto · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:19 pm

Vivian Darkblaam wrote:Seriously? You should probably chill out a tad (but actually related to this game, I would like to see an example of this claim before I beleive it).

Well 1's ongoing where I actually abondoned it but there's multiple game where I complained about people prodding me over the weekend.

It has nothing to do with chilling. It's retarded to prod over the weekend, period.

The game in question I left the mod told me basically 'You've been prodded twice now(over the weekend both times) if I have to prod you again I'll replace you'. I told him to replace me. That's a really asanine way to play a GAME.

pickemgenius · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:28 pm

1-5 IS HERE!

Nothing on page 1

Timeaters response to a vote on a fake person interesting.

Don't think Vivian is going anywhere with the fakeclaim stuff

Timeater weird response post 32

Voodo tacks a playstyle vote on in post 37

nhats reaction in 43 is interesting

Tonys vote in 53 is interesting considering his post in 51.

Grimmys vote in 54 is way bad. god damn.

Vivians pos vote for grim is bad also

Voodo looks odd in 73 again.

Falcone :goodposting: in 81

PTajo wtf in 110