Micro 1032: Baton of Desperation [Game Over]
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No wait this shouldn't be overlooked this is really important. The closer you get the baton to the end, the more power you have.In post 34, Clemency wrote:i feel like as the first baton holder my influence is actually quite small compared to further on
at the same time i feel like i dont really wanna "rvs" it away
i wanna give it to someone i consider a good townie(wisdom) i feel like that's the right logic
at the same time idk
say more things
sway me
I think it's not just important to give someone the baton to someone just because they're town but someone who will (probably) give it to someone else who you both agree is town. That way more reads can be generated as well as relying less on gut readings.-
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I disagree. I think Vulture replies with snark/banter when there’s nothing going on. At the of their scum game with me in newbie 2080, they were pretty serious until the end game when town handed scum the win. Then they had the same energy. Can’t speak on early game since they replaced in.In post 76, CheekyTeeky wrote:Noted. I think vulture doesn't reply with snark as scum though.-
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Is there a way to revoke the baton? Like out of policy ?In post 91, Clemency wrote:i cant wait to see chris pratt as mario-
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Same actually. I really wanna hear her reads.In post 141, Wisdom wrote:I want Margot to play before I give the baton to anyone-
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I don’t think that’s a good idea especially if Margot gets replaced.In post 149, CheekyTeeky wrote:Would it be mean to give the baton to Margot to prompt them to post or self destruct?-
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No. It implies I wouldn’t be surprised if at least one scum hasn’t had it yet.In post 189, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Does this imply that you believe scum haven't held the baton yet?In post 180, DArby wrote:If Margot is a town slot then giving it to someone else ups the chance that scum will get the baton. I don’t think it’s fair to town if we rush it.-
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That’s weird. Why can’t just one scum be left?In post 219, Enchant wrote:So either scum already received blessing of baton or i am sitting with two mafs.
Considering Rat is against me, it's gg see ya.-
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Honestly I feel part of it is the fact the numbers are so small and there’s only one baton (not to mention that the game has had low interest from the beginning. :c).In post 237, Vulture wrote:I don’t mind if I don’t get the baton BTW, I find this setup a lot more disengaging than I thought I would.
If there were more players, maybe a second baton, and a power role or 2 then I think this set up would get a lot more potential but that’s just me.-
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I’m not saying the gimmick isn’t appealing, I’m just saying for the purpose of making it more engaging. I agree I think a downside is a lack of player agency for most of the players.In post 247, Vulture wrote:I think the gimmick is the appeal mainly rather than adding more onto it but after playing something similar... eh. It just strips away elements like wagons, groupwork in favor of individual reads and power. It becomes boring but maybe it’ll perk up day 2.
However, I think if you add a second baton, make the game 16 players (12t:3m:1surv). Give the town a 1 shot day vig and a cop. Give scum a role too. You add more to player engagement. Make one baton able to pass 7 and the other 8. I dunno the balancing but if you make it less set on an individual’s action and split the game into less of a set line of passing it, and give it a 3rd party for good measure, that’ll add a lot more to agency. I think that’s the secret ingredient missing here, although I love the idea and was really looking forward to this game.
Then again this is a different game entirely, but I don’t see how this linear function of the game can be fixed on its own.-
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What has Vulture done? I’ve read them as null at best.In post 284, Wisdom wrote:Darby > Pooky > Vulture-
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I’ll go against the grain and say Vulture. I’ve seen their scum game and this feels wildly different. Obviously, I’d like to be next but I that feels tacky to ask, regardless of alignment.In post 300, Enchant wrote:Actually i want know everyone mind about this.
Who you think should recieve baton? Not promising i will follow, but for certanly consider.-
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I don’t even know what that is.In post 313, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:pockiting me with tft references-
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I feel these are my last two brain cells when I’m taking a test.In post 324, Vulture wrote:Let me GOOOOOOOO.-
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See, that's the thing. I don't think there's scum left. At the very least I think scum would be more inclined to not beg to die or be so flippant.In post 339, Isis wrote:i feel like pooky is acting townish
That being said, I'm thinking of giving the final pass to Vulture. Vulture held a natural progression of energy at the start of the game to where they are now. I feel if Vulture was scum they'd replace out to not let down their scum team. Pooky just replaced in to help move things along. I could see Pooky having the same attitude as either alignment as he is not as invested in the game as Vulture is.
This is an intent to hammer. I'd like to hear town feedback, though.-
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I'd like to say that this is not a personal play against you, I am just suggesting what might be the best course of action for town.In post 344, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm town
I'm not welcome here
It's fine
Give the stick to Ydra
For what it's worth, I appreciate you subbing in and letting this game move forward. Thank you, Pooky.-
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I did not. 86 was me saying I think how they’re acting is NAI. We had banter because it was RVS and because they recently beat me as scum in our last game. In fact, I reiterated in 307 they were null to me.In post 355, Wisdom wrote:
When did you change your mind? Until one point in the game you were all "never ever give it to vulture"In post 341, DArby wrote:That being said, I'm thinking of giving the final pass to Vulture.
Part of why I wanted enchant to give it to you was to see if you'll change your tune, and you did
My last post is that neither are them are acting as scum would at all and I’ve explained that and my reason for wanting to keep the default most town slot. I don’t have strong feelings either way but I still stand by what I said.-
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Before I pass it what gives you such a strong emotion towards this? Is it Pooky’s AtE?In post 356, ratmans wrote:Okay. Okay.
DArby should give the baton to Pooky then.
If he gives it to Vulture I'll rule DArby out as a baton receptor D2, and I encourage others to join me. Strongarm em.-
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Where did you read my opinion changed? Also why is Pookie higher than Vulture? Is that still your read? Why?In post 367, Wisdom wrote:What do you need from me-
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What about my other questions?In post 369, Wisdom wrote:In 307 where you defended against me having her at last place
Also, that doesn’t really make sense. I asked you why was Vulture so low because I don’t scum read them. They’re null to me at the time.-
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Regardless of how I read Vulture, I’m still not sure of your reads on them which you still refuse to expand on. Even if I’m scum reading them I’d like to know why you are as well.In post 371, Wisdom wrote:Yep but until then you had been negative about them, and reacting like that to someone scumreading them was noteworthy-
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What does this mean in terms of who you’d want to be saved between the two?In post 375, ratmans wrote:
No, I consider that OOC and not a game play.In post 360, DArby wrote:
Before I pass it what gives you such a strong emotion towards this? Is it Pooky’s AtE?In post 356, ratmans wrote:Okay. Okay.
DArby should give the baton to Pooky then.
If he gives it to Vulture I'll rule DArby out as a baton receptor D2, and I encourage others to join me. Strongarm em.
Wisdom gave me some ideas that might've made more sense at 2am last night than they do now, but 2am me might've been onto something.
The nature of the mechanics of this game is that pressure is trickier to enact, thus the "strong emotion".-
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Any legitimate objections?In post 387, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i object-
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I feel I'm an odd choice for the baton holder. I had a few days to think about this and I still want to give it to Wisdom. I feel he town slipped by risking dying to wait on passing the baton for Margot to post.
Out of policy, I'm not giving the baton to the first holder of yesterday (Clem), as I should not receive it first or second tomorrow if given the chance. They're also a null slot.
Isis is also null.
I light tr Enchant, but I want to see more from what they were hinting at d1 to see if they were just bsing.
Rat and Pooky are at the bottom of my poe starting d2. I can realistically see that as the scum team based on association. 356 is the main culprit for that. On further thought, while Pooky and Vulture were doing the same thing virtually, where it differs is where they were coming from, which I didn't account for at the time. Vulture was coming from dissatisfaction while Pooky could just as easily come in as either alignment and said what he said. This could prompt rat's 356, and his justification of 379. At the very least I was pressure here, but I think this is where my scum team is.-
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Could you reword your first paragraph. Using only pronouns, I cannot gauge what you’re talking about specifically.In post 402, ratmans wrote:
It also makes sense as scum imo. The reads on me were/are split, so if he wanted to hand it off to me (the better to get townier players limmed), he'd first want to gauge whether it would look partner-y so he won't go down with me, if that's how things go later on.In post 399, DArby wrote:I feel I'm an odd choice for the baton holder. I had a few days to think about this and I still want to give it to Wisdom. I feel he town slipped by risking dying to wait on passing the baton for Margot to post.
Plus it's not like graciously waiting for a slot to be active is a rare camouflage tactic. Easy townpoints, you literally don't have to do anything.
"Town slip" is very generous; I wouldn't assign alignment to it. If there's something else that frames the action as towny, though, feel free to bring it up.
I disagree with your last two paragraphs. Waiting is one thing, sure, but the timer expired. That was a direct gamble to take. There’s only 2 scum, so to take out half your team on towncred is silly.-
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I feel if there’s a time to explain your reasoning for your EoD d1 play, now is the time to do so fancy rat.
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Then I’ll park this here. VOTE: RatIn post 406, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we should just vote and then fastpass it so whoever is the person with the most votes dies-
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I’m sorry, but I don’t have a stronger reason for Enchant over Wisdom.In post 452, Isis wrote:ok i think the pseudovoting is cool but please just pass Enchant the button lol
I will read the rest of p18 now-
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Do you have any thoughts at all on the game?In post 475, Clemency wrote:
ooWisdom wrote:Vote who you want dead clem.
i have no idea
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i dont have it narrowed down that far yet