Mafia 82: International (Game Over)


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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:49 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Lowell wrote:I'll vote netlava if needed, but it's a huge mistake to let cass lurk her way out of a wagon.
We don't have to get rid of cass today, though. I do think Cass is a bit scummy, but Netlava is much more so, IMO.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:54 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Lowell wrote:I'll vote netlava if needed, but it's a huge mistake to let cass lurk her way out of a wagon.
We don't have to get rid of cass today, though. I do think Cass is a bit scummy, but Netlava is much more so, IMO.
Never liked this logic. Things change overnight. People completely forget about the previous day. Also, I'd rather not set up two lynches at once.
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:59 am

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People completely forget about the previous day. Also, I'd rather not set up two lynches at once.
This sounds like a contradiction to me, and nowhere did hascows say that he was assuredly lynching Cass next.
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:08 am

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He's implying that I should be happy with doing that instead of going after cass today.
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:10 am

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Not really. He's saying Netlava is more scummy (true, IMHO) than cass, but cass shouldn't be ignored, and can be lynched tomorrow if nothing scummier presents itself.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:13 am

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No, Lowell has a point, actually, that looks kinda like a false dichotomy.
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:15 am

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At no point did Has-Cow actually say "Netlava today, Cass tomorrow, that is all" though, which seems to be what Lowell is accusing him of doing.
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:19 am

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Korts wrote:No, Lowell has a point, actually, that looks kinda like a false dichotomy.
How is that a false dichotomy? In no place does Cow say "If not A, then B" about this scenario. Only "A > B, but B > 0 in scummitude".
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:19 am

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That's true. But it does look like he's implying that the choice is between Net and Cass.
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:25 am

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How?
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:31 am

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Lowell wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
Lowell wrote:I'll vote netlava if needed, but it's a huge mistake to let cass lurk her way out of a wagon.
We don't have to get rid of cass today, though. I do think Cass is a bit scummy, but Netlava is much more so, IMO.
Never liked this logic. Things change overnight. People completely forget about the previous day. Also, I'd rather not set up two lynches at once.
and I'm not saying I'm setting up lynches. I want to lynch Netlava today. Then, we can look at Cass tomorrow and see if we still think she(?) is scummiest.
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:32 am

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Ok, nevermind that. I thought for some reason that it was, but looking at it again, it doesn't look like one.

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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:33 am

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EBWOP: post 1536 at post 1534/1532.
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:34 am

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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:08 pm

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Korts wrote:Seriously, why do you trust Skruffs so much as to follow his judgement?
That only applies in context with the analogy, which is what your cases on both of us ultimately boil down to, and for the last goddamn time, I saw the analogy as common sense. Give me something new to talk about.
And for the last time, common sense does not apply to mafia here.
Fine.

Unvote: raider8169
Vote: Rich
for being one of the least logical people to vote for at this stage of the game.

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...Maybe not.

Unvote: Rich
Vote: raider8169


But since common sense, according to you, does not apply, how would you respond if I really did vote Rich (or any other player without a case on them, for that matter) at this stage of the game?
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I also don't like how you jumped on me the second I questioned the analogy.
Oh, so you'd rather assume stuff arbitrarily and get yourself in trouble when your assumptions turn out to be wrong? Is that how I'm supposed to interpret this?
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:56 pm

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Sorry about my lack of posting today. I am in the middle of doing my final project and not sure how much time I will have extra until next Monday. I will try to post but if anyone asked me anything please repost it on Monday. Sorry everyone.
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:48 pm

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I think that this common sense argument is dumb.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:45 pm

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Knight of Cydonia wrote:
It seems like Netlava is going for targets of opportunity, rather than any solid case of real merit. Happy with my vote.
I see the logic to that, I do. But to play Devil's Advocate... Cass was doing the same thing with her FOS parade on Day 1 from what I saw.

There is validity for a lynch of each of them, but I hate second-guessing my gut. More times than not, I end up wrong in those cases.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:36 pm

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Tom Mason wrote:But to play Devil's Advocate... Cass was doing the same thing with her FOS parade on Day 1 from what I saw.
Very very obviously very very different situations.
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:49 pm

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Please tell where exactly have I been going after "targets of opportunity" and why they are considered opportunistic.
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:00 am

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armlx wrote:I think that this common sense argument is dumb.
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:06 am

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Netlava - two bloody good examples right there in that post - it's not like I'm not giving evidence. You flip-flop onto whichever wagon is convenient, and so far today, you've been pushing the raider case, then backing off it, then pushing it again, but you've never committed to it with a vote: your vote has stayed solidly on the wagon with the most chance of overtaking yours: Cass.
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:12 am

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Netlava wrote:Please tell where exactly have I been going after "targets of opportunity" and why they are considered opportunistic.
To be honest, I think you need to take a step back, and reconsider your game. Making posts like this is certainly not helping your chances of making it to the end of today live.

In fact, Knight of Cydonia seems to have added a new layer to the Netlava case, what with the opportunistic voting. I'm going to keep my faith in Netlava for now, but I'm certainly not as confident with Netlava as with Dynamo anymore...
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:55 am

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Cream147 wrote:To be honest, I think you need to take a step back, and reconsider your game. Making posts like this is certainly not helping your chances of making it to the end of today live.
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:12 am

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Okay, I don't really understand your actions, Cream. You make a fair point in regards to Netlava, and you comment on how KoC's point seems valid, yet your assessment of the situation is that you're keeping your faith in him?
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