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[LicketyQuickety]

why do you think it's me

I don't have a super-strong feeling that it is, but how else is Pan getting elimmed?

I think Pan's points against you are not bad though.

LMAO
Quick might be scum here if StD is town

That's nice. Now engage me with the question I asked you. You're avoiding talking to me directly for some reason and IDK why.

VOTE: LicketyQuickety
This is scum badgering.

@darby with your bus logic, we would be saying quick is scum here based on how gamma treated quick

Obviously, quick is not scum because we have evidence they are town outside of this

Not to mention, my vote on Gamma is supremely not optimal if I am Scum here. Like, I vote Gamma and they hammer? Yeah, great play by me to get my Scum buddy to hammer.

[Pan Smierc]

honestly i wanna do sloppy bussing like that one time and see if town eats itself saying its too obvious to be a bus lol

[Pan Smierc]

Ok omw home

[DArby]

[std, NM, t3]

2 scum in this

Fmpov i think its solved with enough lims to win but obv i need to convince others which is lmao

Out of this who would you want to push d3?

[DArby]

Real talk - we should be discussing people outsidd of me

The hyperfocus on me is unhealthy for the gamestate

Even if you're 100% sure im scum - we need to discuss options - because objectively? No one knows what im flipping other than scum - so you should be prepared to solve off a town flip.
Theres 1 groupscum left - lets not fumble this.

I absolutely agree. My introduction was also specifically because I wanted to make a strong stance. I want to solve today.

[LicketyQuickety]

Real talk - we should be discussing people outsidd of me

The hyperfocus on me is unhealthy for the gamestate

Even if you're 100% sure im scum - we need to discuss options - because objectively? No one knows what im flipping other than scum - so you should be prepared to solve off a town flip.
Theres 1 groupscum left - lets not fumble this.

I absolutely agree. My introduction was also specifically because I wanted to make a strong stance. I want to solve today.

1.) It could be a wild goose chase if it's just Pan here.
2.) Else, I already gave some reasons for why it could be Egix. I haven't checked Egix last Scum games from MU, but I saw a post or two from that game. If Egix was Scum there, based on my comment that Egix is more puchy as Scum, then that doesn't hold if Egix was Scum on the MU games because they posted there like they are posting here.

[DArby]

Darby what are your reads outside of my slot?

Light tr on NM and Egix.

STD’s read it depended on you, but he comes across as null-town. This is absolutely not S/S between you and him.

I’m not ready to read T3 or LQ as I haven’t seen a scum game for reference.

If you are town, StD and T3 would be my pick, but as it stands I don’t have a stronger scum read.

I’d honestly like to figure out the Enchant NK today as well. I’ll focus more on that tonight.

[DArby]

Real talk - we should be discussing people outsidd of me

The hyperfocus on me is unhealthy for the gamestate

Even if you're 100% sure im scum - we need to discuss options - because objectively? No one knows what im flipping other than scum - so you should be prepared to solve off a town flip.
Theres 1 groupscum left - lets not fumble this.

I absolutely agree. My introduction was also specifically because I wanted to make a strong stance. I want to solve today.

1.) It could be a wild goose chase if it's just Pan here.
2.) Else, I already gave some reasons for why it could be Egix. I haven't checked Egix last Scum games from MU, but I saw a post or two from that game. If Egix was Scum there, based on my comment that Egix is more puchy as Scum, then that doesn't hold if Egix was Scum on the MU games because they posted there like they are posting here.

There is absolutely no way Pan is scum by themselves.

[Egix96]

@egix why did you switch from gamma to meg?

Because I thought megazu was more likely scum. Why else.

[LicketyQuickety]

Real talk - we should be discussing people outsidd of me

The hyperfocus on me is unhealthy for the gamestate

Even if you're 100% sure im scum - we need to discuss options - because objectively? No one knows what im flipping other than scum - so you should be prepared to solve off a town flip.
Theres 1 groupscum left - lets not fumble this.

I absolutely agree. My introduction was also specifically because I wanted to make a strong stance. I want to solve today.

1.) It could be a wild goose chase if it's just Pan here.
2.) Else, I already gave some reasons for why it could be Egix. I haven't checked Egix last Scum games from MU, but I saw a post or two from that game. If Egix was Scum there, based on my comment that Egix is more puchy as Scum, then that doesn't hold if Egix was Scum on the MU games because they posted there like they are posting here.

There is absolutely no way Pan is scum by themselves.

Then I offer you 962 which is in my case on Pan.

[lendunistus]

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Pan Smierc

(1): Save The Dragons

Save The Dragons

(1): LicketyQuickety

Not_Mafia

(1): Pan Smierc

Not Voting

(4): Egix96, DArby, T3, Not_Mafia

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-11-29 21:00:00)

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Pan

In case it isn't abundantly clear that I think they are Scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

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Pan Smierc

(1): Save The Dragons

DArby

(1): LicketyQuickety

Not_Mafia

(1): Pan Smierc

Not Voting

(4): Egix96, DArby, T3, Not_Mafia

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-11-29 21:00:00)

I was voting for StD.

[LicketyQuickety]

Why=fry

Why?

the cheeky insistence however deserves a townread

IMO, Pan should be the Elim based solely on this.

[lendunistus]

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Pan Smierc

(1): Save The Dragons

DArby

(1): LicketyQuickety

Not_Mafia

(1): Pan Smierc

Not Voting

(4): Egix96, DArby, T3, Not_Mafia

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-11-29 21:00:00)

I was voting for StD.

Fixed. Apologies, votecounter broke.

[DArby]

Also did you think gamma's attempt to convince me to not fos them was disgenuine? Why, if so?

In good faith I cannot answer that question at this time. I do want to come back to it at a later time.

[DArby]

this town is desperate to speedrun a loss and got upset i got scum limmed

Quite the opposite. I think you’re scum but I’d rather focus today to be more general solve-y. I intentionally have not voted you because I specifically want to avoid another quick day.

you want me to be scum*
Please be accurate about it.

I’m not done catching up but I wrote that my logic was that you benefited the most from Bens death. Trust me, this is not a fun position for me to be in.

This is garbage logic and you know it

I disagree. The only other (logical) reason I’m aware of for a nk is to misdirect and place blame on someone else. Ben’s death never did that.

That being said, Im coming up for a reason for Enchants NK. I don’t think I’m wrong, but I think I’m going to expand on my line of thought.

[DArby]

Why am i different here from squid game?

Do you remember how Norwe wanted to speed up the game but you pushed hard to do as much of a solve state as early as possible? That’s specifically what I’m talking about.

Also I’m at work and you’re posting too fast for me to catch up. Please be patient if it takes me a while to answer everything.

Hey what about me pushing to not vote off why quickly - you have blinders on because youre tunneled and you are throwing out counterevidene when you need to address everything as a whole to have an accurate read and *not* just pick and choose what matches your theory

I’ll give you points for that, yeah.

[LicketyQuickety]

Why=fry

Why?

the cheeky insistence however deserves a townread

IMO, Pan should be the Elim based solely on this.

Why?

Because it's either TMI or a play that doesn't make any sense as Town.

I say that because of the VC here:

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DArby

(4): Thynhith, T3, Klick, cool cookie

Pan Smierc

(2): Pan Smierc, ben dover123

Thynhith

(1): Egix96

IOnlyAskWhy

(1): DArby

Not Voting

(3): Save The Dragons, IOnlyAskWhy, mozamis

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-11-13 17:00:00)

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Which means Pan was TRing Why before Std made their push against Why and before StD v Pan. Given this, StD is totally justified in going after Why here. Then there's later TMI that Why is Town from Pan later, which makes me slightly think it was done on purpose. Given that, NM could totally be Scum here because it makes NM look good given Pan flips as Scum. So I'm by no means clearing NM. In any case, StD looks very very Townie given all this. If Pan is Scum, they spew StD as Town in a huge way. Also, Gamma's push on NM in 746 looks like it could go either way in terms of whether it was a serious push or not.

Pan still Scum for TMIing Why as Town or just making it looks like it's TMI on Why. And StD not having a stance on Why/NM is also a good look considering StD is see what I am seeing here (and getting there before me I might add).

[DArby]

Is Egix typically a passive player?

[LicketyQuickety]

Is Egix typically a passive player?

From what I saw, they are way more analytical and tentative as Town. As Scum, from what I saw, they have more bite in their posts. But that's only given Egix's last 2 Scum games on MS, and nothing from the links they provided. I'll get on looking at those soon.

[Egix96]

Why=fry

Why?

the cheeky insistence however deserves a townread

IMO, Pan should be the Elim based solely on this.

Let's not rush this. I'm not convinced that Pan is scum.
I had started re-reading during night, but I really wasn't expecting that kill so I feel like just scrapping what I had and starting again.

[Egix96]

Is Egix typically a passive player?

If you mean I don't usually have a lot to say, and I'm not the leader type, then yeah

[Pan Smierc]

Im not home yet but @quick you will do well to unvote and not rush.
I think i have the game solved and i know who final groupscum is

I think gamma spewed their groupscum.partner and ill explain in a bit.

also seeing the last few posts i want to say i think at worst egix is traitor and not groupscum

and quick ive literally explained like 2832 times i defended why on principle of not having a low info lim that is just policy - and the townread was mostly a joke.

In all seriousness i feel intense pressure to make sure the gsme is fully solved before im inevitably mislimmed and its really fucking stressful to habe that responsibility on me knowing rhe town is fully ready to just lose after mislimming me

[DArby]

Is Egix typically a passive player?

From what I saw, they are way more analytical and tentative as Town. As Scum, from what I saw, they have more bite in their posts. But that's only given Egix's last 2 Scum games on MS, and nothing from the links they provided. I'll get on looking at those soon.

Thank you.

@Egix: how do you typically describe your play style?

pedit: please no one put anymore votes on Pan. I genuinely want to hear their arguments. This day we need to focus on solving as much as possible. This day is only 1 hour long so far.