I’m seriously hurt that that’s what you think of me, I’m very clearly trying to help you here whether you realize it or not.In post 6077, GrandpaMo wrote:nancy.In post 6076, Cheeky Wings wrote:Okay fine, ignore my advice then, just don’t get upset when you get pushed for those kind of posts.In post 6074, GrandpaMo wrote:my brain is literally hurting because u literally bring it up again goshIn post 6073, Cheeky Wings wrote:Are you serious? *brain starts to hurt*In post 6071, GrandpaMo wrote:??? i literally just that like 10 posts ago.In post 6070, Cheeky Wings wrote:Yeah, so please stop talking about gf unless something happens in this game to make that seem like a valid possibility.In post 6055, GrandpaMo wrote:let's stop talking bout it since its irrelevant and causes unneeded paranoia if necessary.
it's your fault that you started talking bout it again.
now lets stop.
like i say to shutup bout it
then u come and talk bout it again then say to shutup bout it???
there was no advice given, it was just you restating what i said to diminish/ degrade me.
did you skip over me and taly's interaction me and them were actually talking bout me and those "posts"
so just please if you're gonna k
atp nvm
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before i go real quick. i thought clem was SCUM. you thinking "a townie acting player" that is subjective!In post 6078, Cheeky Wings wrote:
No, I’m trying to get you to understand cause and effect wrt to those posts of yours that are causing you negative reactions from other players because it keeps happening and I honestly wouldn’t care but you seem to get upset everytime it happens, so it’s just painful to watch.In post 6075, GrandpaMo wrote:
here u go again still talking bout it again.In post 6072, Cheeky Wings wrote:@Mo, if you want people to stop coming at you, stop saying things like gf when there’s no valid reason to question Titus’ result. If Titus ever gets an inno on a player that’s flaming obvscum, I could understand this but a cop inno on a townie acting player, why even bother to question that?
ur a hypocrite.
clem wasnt cofnrimed town before the check. i just rose that possibility becuase i scumread clem and kept having them in my solve and then ppl would say "oh clem is confirmed" etcetc.. im like damn that goes my solve...
its not a stupid possibility -- its a VERY viable possibility especially in a rolemadness game. i just happen to propose my thoughts.
why as scum do i do this to get all the attention to me?? it makes no sense to stir up this viable paranoia right literally when i said to shutup bout it.
now im munching the snickers-
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im sorry ...In post 6080, Cheeky Wings wrote:
I’m seriously hurt that that’s what you think of me, I’m very clearly trying to help you here whether you realize it or not.In post 6077, GrandpaMo wrote:
nancy.In post 6076, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Okay fine, ignore my advice then, just don’t get upset when you get pushed for those kind of posts.In post 6074, GrandpaMo wrote:
my brain is literally hurting because u literally bring it up again goshIn post 6073, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Are you serious? *brain starts to hurt*In post 6071, GrandpaMo wrote:
??? i literally just that like 10 posts ago.In post 6070, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Yeah, so please stop talking about gf unless something happens in this game to make that seem like a valid possibility.In post 6055, GrandpaMo wrote:let's stop talking bout it since its irrelevant and causes unneeded paranoia if necessary.
it's your fault that you started talking bout it again.
now lets stop.
like i say to shutup bout it
then u come and talk bout it again then say to shutup bout it???
there was no advice given, it was just you restating what i said to diminish/ degrade me.
did you skip over me and taly's interaction me and them were actually talking bout me and those "posts"
so just please if you're gonna k
atp nvm
im really really sorry :/
im just ...
lost.
im very confused. and dk wtf to do anymore.
it just feels like no one believes me anymore.
and it feels like i tried my absolute best and no one is trying their absolute best to read me correctly :/-
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I didn’t call you scum but you don’t seem to understand why this is getting you negative reactions. Fine then, I give up.In post 6081, GrandpaMo wrote:
before i go real quick. i thought clem was SCUM. you thinking "a townie acting player" that is subjective!In post 6078, Cheeky Wings wrote:
No, I’m trying to get you to understand cause and effect wrt to those posts of yours that are causing you negative reactions from other players because it keeps happening and I honestly wouldn’t care but you seem to get upset everytime it happens, so it’s just painful to watch.In post 6075, GrandpaMo wrote:
here u go again still talking bout it again.In post 6072, Cheeky Wings wrote:@Mo, if you want people to stop coming at you, stop saying things like gf when there’s no valid reason to question Titus’ result. If Titus ever gets an inno on a player that’s flaming obvscum, I could understand this but a cop inno on a townie acting player, why even bother to question that?
ur a hypocrite.
clem wasnt cofnrimed town before the check. i just rose that possibility becuase i scumread clem and kept having them in my solve and then ppl would say "oh clem is confirmed" etcetc.. im like damn that goes my solve...
its not a stupid possibility -- its a VERY viable possibility especially in a rolemadness game. i just happen to propose my thoughts.
why as scum do i do this to get all the attention to me?? it makes no sense to stir up this viable paranoia right literally when i said to shutup bout it.
now im munching the snickersSucculent hydra of CheekyTeeky and Nancy Drew 39-
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no i understand ig..In post 6083, Cheeky Wings wrote:
I didn’t call you scum but you don’t seem to understand why this is getting you negative reactions. Fine then, I give up.In post 6081, GrandpaMo wrote:
before i go real quick. i thought clem was SCUM. you thinking "a townie acting player" that is subjective!In post 6078, Cheeky Wings wrote:
No, I’m trying to get you to understand cause and effect wrt to those posts of yours that are causing you negative reactions from other players because it keeps happening and I honestly wouldn’t care but you seem to get upset everytime it happens, so it’s just painful to watch.In post 6075, GrandpaMo wrote:
here u go again still talking bout it again.In post 6072, Cheeky Wings wrote:@Mo, if you want people to stop coming at you, stop saying things like gf when there’s no valid reason to question Titus’ result. If Titus ever gets an inno on a player that’s flaming obvscum, I could understand this but a cop inno on a townie acting player, why even bother to question that?
ur a hypocrite.
clem wasnt cofnrimed town before the check. i just rose that possibility becuase i scumread clem and kept having them in my solve and then ppl would say "oh clem is confirmed" etcetc.. im like damn that goes my solve...
its not a stupid possibility -- its a VERY viable possibility especially in a rolemadness game. i just happen to propose my thoughts.
why as scum do i do this to get all the attention to me?? it makes no sense to stir up this viable paranoia right literally when i said to shutup bout it.
now im munching the snickers-
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Because you’re arguing for the possible over the probable. Do we know with 100% certainty that there isn’t a gf in this setup? Of course not but to assume one exists with no evidence to support it doesn’t help town. You should assume Titus’ result is valid unless something in the game happens to give you good reason to question it. The odds of Titus’ result not being valid is extremely unlikely, so it’s extremely frustrating that you’re questioning that. And considering we also have a miller claim is even further reason to not doubt it. I do think that volunteering you were jk’d during a no kill is highly town indicative behaviour even if there was no cop inno but it confirms my Clemency read I already had as a result of his claim.In post 6082, GrandpaMo wrote:
im sorry ...In post 6080, Cheeky Wings wrote:
I’m seriously hurt that that’s what you think of me, I’m very clearly trying to help you here whether you realize it or not.In post 6077, GrandpaMo wrote:
nancy.In post 6076, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Okay fine, ignore my advice then, just don’t get upset when you get pushed for those kind of posts.In post 6074, GrandpaMo wrote:
my brain is literally hurting because u literally bring it up again goshIn post 6073, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Are you serious? *brain starts to hurt*In post 6071, GrandpaMo wrote:
??? i literally just that like 10 posts ago.In post 6070, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Yeah, so please stop talking about gf unless something happens in this game to make that seem like a valid possibility.In post 6055, GrandpaMo wrote:let's stop talking bout it since its irrelevant and causes unneeded paranoia if necessary.
it's your fault that you started talking bout it again.
now lets stop.
like i say to shutup bout it
then u come and talk bout it again then say to shutup bout it???
there was no advice given, it was just you restating what i said to diminish/ degrade me.
did you skip over me and taly's interaction me and them were actually talking bout me and those "posts"
so just please if you're gonna k
atp nvm
im really really sorry :/
im just ...
lost.
im very confused. and dk wtf to do anymore.
it just feels like no one believes me anymore.
and it feels like i tried my absolute best and no one is trying their absolute best to read me correctly :/Succulent hydra of CheekyTeeky and Nancy Drew 39-
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*picks up Nancy and GMO
throws Nancy into a pile of pillows*
*walks to another room*
*throws GMO into another pile of pillows*
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the problem with that is that i am in favor with titus as the cop claim its just you shouldnt always discredit the possible in terms of getting close to mylo / lylo. but piecing everything together it isn't probable, you are right and that's why i just shutup about it ... but it isn't something we SHOULDNT thinkbout... like do u understand? we assume titus is real because of the probablity but we shouldnt give that option away becuase of its possibility.In post 6085, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Because you’re arguing for the possible over the probable. Do we know with 100% certainty that there isn’t a gf in this setup? Of course not but to assume one exists with no evidence to support it doesn’t help town. You should assume Titus’ result is valid unless something in the game happens to give you good reason to question it. The odds of Titus’ result not being valid is extremely unlikely, so it’s extremely frustrating that you’re questioning that. And considering we also have a miller claim is even further reason to not doubt it. I do think that volunteering you were jk’d during a no kill is highly town indicative behaviour even if there was no cop inno but it confirms my Clemency read I already had as a result of his claim.In post 6082, GrandpaMo wrote:
im sorry ...In post 6080, Cheeky Wings wrote:
I’m seriously hurt that that’s what you think of me, I’m very clearly trying to help you here whether you realize it or not.In post 6077, GrandpaMo wrote:
nancy.In post 6076, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Okay fine, ignore my advice then, just don’t get upset when you get pushed for those kind of posts.In post 6074, GrandpaMo wrote:
my brain is literally hurting because u literally bring it up again goshIn post 6073, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Are you serious? *brain starts to hurt*In post 6071, GrandpaMo wrote:
??? i literally just that like 10 posts ago.In post 6070, Cheeky Wings wrote:
Yeah, so please stop talking about gf unless something happens in this game to make that seem like a valid possibility.In post 6055, GrandpaMo wrote:let's stop talking bout it since its irrelevant and causes unneeded paranoia if necessary.
it's your fault that you started talking bout it again.
now lets stop.
like i say to shutup bout it
then u come and talk bout it again then say to shutup bout it???
there was no advice given, it was just you restating what i said to diminish/ degrade me.
did you skip over me and taly's interaction me and them were actually talking bout me and those "posts"
so just please if you're gonna k
atp nvm
im really really sorry :/
im just ...
lost.
im very confused. and dk wtf to do anymore.
it just feels like no one believes me anymore.
and it feels like i tried my absolute best and no one is trying their absolute best to read me correctly :/-
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its probably because i play alot of voice mafia / mafia.gg
and that is hosted on mafia.gg which is text mafia -- and the expierence with that is different. im still not used to the role asusmptions on mafiascum..
and i just came into this game thinking it was gonna be a rolemadness game similar to that of mafia.gg-
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Ockham's Razor
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"Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything" -- William of Ockham (1285-1349)
Also called Occam's Razor, this is the philosophical idea of "going with" the explanation which requires the least assumptions. It is sometimes paraphrased as "the simplest answer is best", but that is probably overly simplistic!
Occam's Razor is a double-edged weapon in Mafia games, however, as it can be used by Scum to cloak their actions.
"Why didn't you tell us you were a Doctor before you were bandwagonned?"
"Simple; if I'd told you, the Mafia would have killed me last night."
This explanation seems simple, but by itself cannot be taken as proof. Maybe the player didn't roleclaim before, not because they were the Doctor, but because they were Mafia who wanted an 'out' in case they killed the Doctor at Night (see also Wine In Front Of Me).
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In post 6086, Taly wrote:*picks up Nancy and GMO
throws Nancy into a pile of pillows*
*walks to another room*
*throws GMO into another pile of pillows*
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In post 6086, Taly wrote:*picks up Nancy and GMO
throws Nancy into a pile of pillows*
*walks to another room*
*throws GMO into another pile of pillows*
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In post 6090, GrandpaMo wrote:i probably have confirmation bias.
but i dounderstand what you're saying...
do you understand what im saying..
I do but at this point, it isn’t helpful, so that’s why Occam’s razor is correct the vast majority of the time. In Labrynth, incidentally another RC game, some people had this incorrect theory that the hard claimed town bg was actually a scum doc. Well they were in fact town bg and we almost lost the game because of unsubstantiated tin foil.Succulent hydra of CheekyTeeky and Nancy Drew 39-
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I Tried To Use This Kind Of Logic In An RC Game And Got Burned I Would Not Recommend ItIn post 5970, Datisi wrote:and ALSO he didn't post "day 1 start", he posted a "VC here".It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Thanks but I already took my maximum dose. Perhaps champagne and chocolate truffles might be more helpful? Why would you give me vitamins of all things?
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I should have downloaded the NextDoor app for us instead.In post 6095, Cheeky Wings wrote:In post 6090, GrandpaMo wrote:i probably have confirmation bias.
but i dounderstand what you're saying...
do you understand what im saying..
I do but at this point, it isn’t helpful, so that’s why Occam’s razor is correct the vast majority of the time. In Labrynth, incidentally another RC game, some people had this incorrect theory that the hard claimed town bg was actually a scum doc. Well they were in fact town bg and we almost lost the game because of unsubstantiated tin foil.
You're probably right. It's funny that it was another RC game... I will call it the RC Curse. However, I will research more on Occam's razor... It's a very interesting topic that I fall into victim of a lot as town not just here but in my other platforms I play mafia in. No one has said anything till now -- Interesting.-
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There's a mafia community that I haven't been a part of....In post 6088, GrandpaMo wrote:its probably because i play alot of voice mafia / mafia.gg
and that is hosted on mafia.gg which is text mafia -- and the expierence with that is different. im still not used to the role asusmptions on mafiascum..
and i just came into this game thinking it was gonna be a rolemadness game similar to that of mafia.gg
Look out. Here I come.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Hm...In post 6097, Cheeky Wings wrote:Thanks but I already took my maximum dose. Perhaps champagne and chocolate truffles might be more helpful? Why would you give me vitamins of all things?
I can only give you stuff you would find in your local resturant. I don't have any champagne or chocolate truffles... that's too expensive for me.
I can give you fries, fried chicken, salads.
I can also give you Chocolate-dipped Fresh Strawberry Skewers
I can also give you ice cream...
I have shrimp too!!-
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Uh. You do NOT want to be apart of this.In post 6099, Titus wrote:
There's a mafia community that I haven't been a part of....In post 6088, GrandpaMo wrote:its probably because i play alot of voice mafia / mafia.gg
and that is hosted on mafia.gg which is text mafia -- and the expierence with that is different. im still not used to the role asusmptions on mafiascum..
and i just came into this game thinking it was gonna be a rolemadness game similar to that of mafia.gg
Look out. Here I come.-
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However, I gave you a full plate of Vitamins because you need it.In post 6100, GrandpaMo wrote:
Hm...In post 6097, Cheeky Wings wrote:Thanks but I already took my maximum dose. Perhaps champagne and chocolate truffles might be more helpful? Why would you give me vitamins of all things?
I can only give you stuff you would find in your local resturant. I don't have any champagne or chocolate truffles... that's too expensive for me.
I can give you fries, fried chicken, salads.
I can also give you Chocolate-dipped Fresh Strawberry Skewers
I can also give you ice cream...
I have shrimp too!!-
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