Micro 1042: Meme Wars | Fin!

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PookyTheMagicalBear

(3): Save The Dragons, bugspray, Val89

Val89

(3): Dwlee99, Pavowski, PookyTheMagicalBear

Dwlee99

(2): Esooa, MegAzumarill

MegAzumarill

(1): Prism

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Deadline: January 29, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-01-28 21:00:00)

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[Esooa]

Esooa Iso This Game
Esooa Iso in Happy Face

just scroll down it's not even comparable in terms of engagement/hunting

laughable not only because it's a meta read but also because of how bad of one it is

[Esooa]

the last page of posts is hilarious

[Esooa]

I'm bored enough to post this

1: you're talking about a perceived difference between one single game and one other game, which is just ridiculous. Trying to meta read someone off one game will never do you any help
2: that game was 9 months ago when I've been playing mafia for a total of 13 months
3: day 2 of that game in which I was "p comfortable just chilling into deadline"

etc

[Esooa]

anyways,

is there literally any reason not to kill Dwlee

I don't even think they're a wolf, they just should be todays kill as far as I see it rn

[Esooa]

probably tonight I'll reread the game and some ISO's of past games and say things

[Save The Dragons]

Uh

I'd rather kill scum and I'm not sure dwlee is scum yet

[Esooa]

don't really think Pooky is

[Save The Dragons]

Cool

[Dwlee99]

I don't even think they're a wolf, they just should be todays kill as far as I see it rn

Well that's anti-town

[Esooa]

I don't even think they're a wolf, they just should be todays kill as far as I see it rn

Well that's anti-town

woe is me

[Esooa]

is it reasonable to say no wolves have come out and said "look at these people pushing the PR's who are now confirmed town, that's scummy, they're wolfy" is becuase wolves did that

[Save The Dragons]

What

[Esooa]

nvm on doing stuff tonight, headache

[Dwlee99]

I don't even think they're a wolf, they just should be todays kill as far as I see it rn

Well that's anti-town

woe is me

Woe isn't me. I'm Dwlee, not Woe

[Prism]

I'll put a vote on a real wagon tomorrow I guess

Do not get lack of appetite for Meg but o k a y

[Pavowski]

is it reasonable to say no wolves have come out and said "look at these people pushing the PR's who are now confirmed town, that's scummy, they're wolfy" is becuase wolves did that

I don't know exactly what you're saying here but neither of the 2 claimed PRs could be called confirmed at this point.

[Pavowski]

I'll put a vote on a real wagon tomorrow I guess

Do not get lack of appetite for Meg but o k a y

I have almost no read on Meg right now. They accused me of coasting at one point but I think the shoe is solidly on the other foot.

Time is a little short to explore a new wagon but what the hell.

VOTE: Meg

I'm ready to go back to Val at the drop of a hat, tho (get it?)

[MegAzumarill]

Nah I'm not coasting I'm beetlejuicing.

There's not much motion any which way atm and I'm kind of ready for a flip

As for the stuff recently with pooky/esooa I'll need to go over the isos which I can do now. I've used this kind of push before as scum so I don't like Pooky atm for town, but I'll need to check if there's a legitimate difference in the iso. Either way I don't think it reflects on esooa's alignment much

[Pavowski]

Nah I'm not coasting I'm beetlejuicing.

There's not much motion any which way atm and I'm kind of ready for a flip

As for the stuff recently with pooky/esooa I'll need to go over the isos which I can do now. I've used this kind of push before as scum so I don't like Pooky atm for town, but I'll need to check if there's a legitimate difference in the iso. Either way I don't think it reflects on esooa's alignment much

This is a new term for me but I take it beetlejuicing means you wait for somebody to mention you before you say anything. Not the most towniest way to play but I guess I get it.

I think I agree with your take on Pooky/Esooa. I can see scum motivation for Pooky's play here easily. Whether that's the case or not I'm not ready to judge. Also, and this is maybe not the cleverest thing, but I don't love voting replacements the day they join a game, so I'm going to leave the question of Pooky for tomorrow.

[Val89]

I've used this kind of push before as scum so I don't like Pooky atm for town, but I'll need to check if there's a legitimate difference in the iso.

Why is it you suppose Pooky hasn't just come up with the goods for us, and save you and everyone else the trouble?

[MegAzumarill]

I've used this kind of push before as scum so I don't like Pooky atm for town, but I'll need to check if there's a legitimate difference in the iso.

Why is it you suppose Pooky hasn't just come up with the goods for us, and save you and everyone else the trouble?

Not sure what you mean by this

[MegAzumarill]

I mean I see differences between the Isos so it could be town motivated but still don't think it's a good case

[MegAzumarill]

strong case*

[Val89]

Not sure what you mean by this

Well, I take this...

As for the stuff recently with pooky/esooa I'll need to go over the isos which I can do now. I've used this kind of push before as scum so I don't like Pooky atm for town, but I'll need to check if there's a legitimate difference in the iso. Either way I don't think it reflects on esooa's alignment much

...to mean you've recognised that it's worth looking at to see if Pooky had some reasonable basis for their Esooa read in order to potentially glean something about Pookies alignment, even if you think it's not going to be particulary helpful in sorting Esooa herself.

If you have concluded there are some differences in the ISOs, but it's not a strong case, why do you suppose Pooky represented it this way:

Spoiler: Just scroll down

just scroll down it's not even comparable in terms of engagement/hunting

dude just pull up the two isos window by window lay them next to each other and start scrolling

how is this even remotely similar

I don't see any real difference, but even if you think there are some differences, Pooky obviously overcooked the issue by a considerable margin, and my question to you (which was mostly hypothetical, since I think the answer is fairly obvious) is why, if Pooky thinks they have such a convincing case - they don't explain what difference it is they see when it's clear others aren't seeing it, rather than just continue to repeat the "just scoll down!" mantra.

I think Pooky has no real case on Esooa. The best they can do is to oversell some minor differences, if there are any at all, between her ISO in this game, and one in a Large Theme game she played 9 months ago. Pooky knows they've got nothing, but if they continue insisting there obviously is, and you are all stupid for not seeing it enough times, then at the very least we might all start buying Pooky beleives there is something there enough to excuse them joining bugsprays shitpush without arousing too much suspicion.

The "No! YOU are the scum!" and "I'm not reading your posts" reaction is the predictable (enough that I called it in advance) result I've seen when challenging scum a few times previously. I don't recall a time a town player has ever scumread me and said they would ignore me/implied I was an idiot and not worth responding to after being challenged.