Mini Normal 2262: NbITGBSMoD [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.24

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-02-19 12:00:00).

yeet

Greeting [5]:

fireisredsir, Nero Cain, the worst, Eyes without a face, Stephen A Smith

Nero Cain [3]:

Greeting, Umlaut, Frozen Angel

wavemode [2]:

Andante, Scorpious

Scorpious [2]:

wavemode, HockeyFan

Eyes without a face [1]:

Dwlee99

not voting [0]:

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[Greeting]

Hockey is probably maf if they refuse to look at anyone other than me here. ok uhh andante is gonna be gone again... class then stupid class meeting... I hate my group there, 0/10 would recommend. I see we're going for a 100 page day 1... go team! uhhhh yeah I'll be back later maybe... read wise, idk, if I'm being completely honest, I just really don't know...

HockeyFan

is just being newbie town or I'm strongly underestimating him.

[the worst]

Hockeyfan is town yeah

[HockeyFan]

Why is stephen so high?

I townread him in my 214 and his play has remained consistent with that since then

I mean I get earlier in the game, but cmon now, at this point hes just placing votes on people(unexplained ofc). Mafia can be consistent with thier play too

[Greeting]

TBH,this would not be the first bad wagon I've seen Greeting receive recently, I'm reading them now..

To me it's just a repeat of Newbie 2086 in a new rendition (thankfully not a repeat of Mini Normal 2257 - that game was a trainwreck). I wouldn't say that

fireisredsir

has bad reasons for voting me, just like the reasons to vote me out in Newbie 2086 game weren't bad either. In that game, butterchurn, claimed that I haven't rolled scum in any of my games before so I'm bound to roll scum eventually and clung to what he perceived as my misguided logic and misrepresentations of what others' said. Here,

fireisredsir

says, it's a gutread based on supposedly me being more careful than usual. It was obviously a case of confirmation bias and paranoia coming from town and I think it's just nothing new in Mini Normal 2262.

What concerns me, however, is the speed in which

Nero Cain

and

the worst

followed. Both just jumped when my name surfaced and went in for the kill.

Truth is, I would have been more active if I didn't feel trumped by the hyperactivity of others to be fair. I guess at one point I just gave up and I'm waiting for Day 1 to end, hopefully with one of my picks eliminated.

I was the first one to mention you there but ok go off

Oh really? Where?

[wavemode]

I mean I get earlier in the game, but cmon now, at this point hes just placing votes on people(unexplained ofc). Mafia can be consistent with thier play too

okay. so that means he's mafia?

[the worst]

you didn't read it did you

I think theres something really insincere about you claiming to be falling behind because you're overwhelmed, when all of your posting is kinda sheep tepid takes which you're presenting as your own

I also just tried to do a read list and realised I'd literally kill more than half of the plist without blinking lol

[Greeting]

UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment

He absolutely did. You made that wagon lose momentum and now a townie's at E-2. I feel like this was deliberate.

[Scorpious]

UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment

He absolutely did. You made that wagon lose momentum and now a townie's at E-2. I feel like this was deliberate.

you kinda had me on your side until this. This is such a desperate soudning post.

[Greeting]

UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment

He absolutely did. You made that wagon lose momentum and now a townie's at E-2. I feel like this was deliberate.

you kinda had me on your side until this. This is such a desperate soudning post.

Go ahead then, jump on.

[Greeting]

Or are you scared?

[Eyes without a face]

For all those who are piling up on Scorpious please refute my logic here so I can see why you disagree.

UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment

This doesn't come from scum I don't think. If Nero is Town scum would stand their ground and wait for a hammer. If Nero is Scum the unvote brings a lot of attention to Scorpious once Nero is flipped.

[Greeting]

you didn't read it did you

I think theres something really insincere about you claiming to be falling behind because you're overwhelmed, when all of your posting is kinda sheep tepid takes which you're presenting as your own

I also just tried to do a read list and realised I'd literally kill more than half of the plist without blinking lol

Oh, I skimmed the first half of your ISO and found nothing of the sort, so I knew this was not true.

[Eyes without a face]

vote count 1.24

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-02-19 12:00:00).

yeet

Greeting [5]:

fireisredsir, Nero Cain, the worst, Eyes without a face, Stephen A Smith

Nero Cain [3]:

Greeting, Umlaut, Frozen Angel

wavemode [2]:

Andante, Scorpious

Scorpious [2]:

wavemode, HockeyFan

Eyes without a face [1]:

Dwlee99

not voting [0]:

Oh. I must've dreamt it then. I thought Scorpious had something like 4 votes on him

[the worst]

For all those who are piling up on Scorpious please refute my logic here so I can see why you disagree.

UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment

This doesn't come from scum I don't think. If Nero is Town scum would stand their ground and wait for a hammer. If Nero is Scum the unvote brings a lot of attention to Scorpious once Nero is flipped.

that's the post which made me vote him. Scum are obsessed with looking good, and slipping off a wagon so that it is less likely to be hammered outta nowhere is a very instinctive thing to do which is technically good.

As a behavioural tell, this is a scumtell not a towntell

[Umlaut]

Not especially interested in Greeting wagon, I feel like he's answered my questions adequately and the case doesn't really impress me. This is a hard game to keep caught up with and I don't think Greeting struggling with that is indicative of anything.

We're getting kind of short on time. Nero wagon seems to have disintegrated but it's come back from that before and I have hope it will again. Failing that, someone sell me on something else because I agree with Worst there are a lot of people in the "wouldn't be too sad if they died" zone.

[wavemode]

For all those who are piling up on Scorpious please refute my logic here so I can see why you disagree.

Even if I agreed that scum don't unvote when people are close to elimination (they do, all the fucking time, by the way) ... I would still ask, how can a single action counteract an entire day of scummy play?

After all:

"to seem townie" is the simple answer to any question of the form "why would he do that as scum?" ...

[the worst]

you didn't read it did you

I think theres something really insincere about you claiming to be falling behind because you're overwhelmed, when all of your posting is kinda sheep tepid takes which you're presenting as your own

I also just tried to do a read list and realised I'd literally kill more than half of the plist without blinking lol

Oh, I skimmed the first half of your ISO and found nothing of the sort, so I knew this was not true.

god forbid I developed reads

this is my issue with you
you're clearly not reading with intent to solve
all of your reads are sluggish and consensus
yet you still want to come off it looking like you're solving

your characterisation of your wagon doesn't make sense from someone who read the wagon. it makes perfect sense from someone who lazily checked the vc, and then applied their current reads to their expectation of the wagon.

[Scorpious]

Or are you scared?

I'm just not sold on you being scum, like i said I was on your side until that desperate looking post. I still don;t feel compelled to put you on E-1..

[Eyes without a face]

@the worst: You're voting Greeting not Scorpious

@wavemode: Yes they do. But not under the circumstances here. When someone looks like they're going down anyway scum may hop off the wagon. When someone has been in and off for a while and it's hard to seal the wagon they'd be desperate to get a hammer in especially when they are a candidate for the alternate lim. But maybe you know more.

[Umlaut]

For all those who are piling up on Scorpious please refute my logic here so I can see why you disagree.

UNVOTE: Nero does not need to be E-1 at this moment

This doesn't come from scum I don't think. If Nero is Town scum would stand their ground and wait for a hammer. If Nero is Scum the unvote brings a lot of attention to Scorpious once Nero is flipped.

Didn't bother to respond to this when you said it but I think the former point is weaker of the two, scum could easily slip off a wagon so as to be blameless for it while not saying anything that would really stop it ("E-1 is too high" is not really an argument for Nero town so isn't likely to persuade anyone else off)

[wavemode]

I'm just not sold on you being scum, like i said I was on your side until that desperate looking post. I still don;t feel compelled to put you on E-1..

This almost feels redundant to bring up (since we've already established that your progressions on everyone make zero sense this game) but uhhh

how did greeting making one post criticizing you for dropping off the nero wagon cause you to flip from being on his side to now threatening to E-1 him?

[Scorpious]

and just because the sharks are circling I'll clear up, I WAS ON YOUR SIDE AND STILL AM, JUST LESS..

[the worst]

@the worst: You're voting Greeting not Scorpious

@wavemode: Yes they do. But not under the circumstances here. When someone looks like they're going down anyway scum may hop off the wagon. When someone has been in and off for a while and it's hard to seal the wagon they'd be desperate to get a hammer in especially when they are a candidate for the alternate lim. But maybe you know more.

Correct. I still vehemently disagree with your reasoning for looking scorp as town.

[Umlaut]

Not saying that's what happened but I don't think it's a good argument to suggest it

couldn't

or wouldn't happen