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[Dwlee99]

I don't understand how limming yourself as town is good like it just does not make sense

[Dwlee99]

Even if you're able to venge confirm someone... we still get one less mislim. And if you were limmed later one conftown means proportionally more?

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE:

[Radical Rat]

I think this is probably a bad idea as opposed to just eliminating scum, but now that the claim is out there we don't really have a choice so....

VOTE: Greeting

[Dwlee99]

Uh okay
VOTE: Radical rat

[Radical Rat]

If we DON'T do this, Greeting just gets NKed now, and the opportunity is wasted.

[Dwlee99]

And we get a lim...

What

[Dwlee99]

EV is almost for sure higher limming not greeting if greeting is town

[Radical Rat]

Idk, I think having the extra conftown slot would go a long way. I think this is a terrible way to get it, and the claim should have waited until Greeting was actually about to be eliminated organically, but now that the claim has been made, I think getting the conftown is better than not.

[Dwlee99]

11 people alive

Remove myself + toog + greeting assuming greeting is town

3/8 to hit scum today
If we miss
3/7 to hit scum next day (assume conftown night killed)
If we lim greeting we get 0 chance to hit scum today and then with one conftown + greeting + me removed we get a 3/6 chance to hit scum which is less than 3/8 + 5/8(3/7).

And that's hitting EXACTLY one. We could hit two by limming both days. We get less chance of limming one scum and no chance of limming two, it isn't sound play.

[Greeting]

I think this is probably a bad idea as opposed to just eliminating scum, but now that the claim is out there we don't really have a choice so....

VOTE: Greeting

Was this hammer?

[Dwlee99]

No, I unvoted. Don't hammer yourself if you're town...

[Cat Scratch Fever]

11 people alive

Remove myself + toog + greeting assuming greeting is town

3/8 to hit scum today
If we miss
3/7 to hit scum next day (assume conftown night killed)
If we lim greeting we get 0 chance to hit scum today and then with one conftown + greeting + me removed we get a 3/6 chance to hit scum which is less than 3/8 + 5/8(3/7).

And that's hitting EXACTLY one. We could hit two by limming both days. We get less chance of limming one scum and no chance of limming two, it isn't sound play.

Is this factoring in the possibility that Greeting venge's scum? I can't tell.

[Toogeloo]

Explain to me the plan. I'm lost, or stupid. Maybe both.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Mech talk just makes me want to huddle under a blanket. Someone just tell me what to do please.

[Radical Rat]

11 people alive

Remove myself + toog + greeting assuming greeting is town

3/8 to hit scum today
If we miss
3/7 to hit scum next day (assume conftown night killed)
If we lim greeting we get 0 chance to hit scum today and then with one conftown + greeting + me removed we get a 3/6 chance to hit scum which is less than 3/8 + 5/8(3/7).

And that's hitting EXACTLY one. We could hit two by limming both days. We get less chance of limming one scum and no chance of limming two, it isn't sound play.

If we're eliminating randomly, sure, but I feel like confirming another slot would help a lot with sorting, at least on a personal level, which would in turn skew things more in favor of getting a full solve.

[Greeting]

No, I unvoted. Don't hammer yourself if you're town...

My role doesn’t work otherwise. If I get NK’d then it’s completely wasted.

In this gamestate we have a confirmed townie, who is the scum’s most likely target for NK.

My role will allow me to make someone else a confirmed townie or confirmed scum. It makes sense if I’m very certain about someone and I actually do hit scum, but otherwise not only do I kill myself (and I’m town-aligned), but I just create an easy target for a mafia NK (the mafia don’t want to narrow down the suspect pool). Which is why this is the most correct way to go today. If my pick is wrong, worst case scenario only one confirmed townie dies tonight.

VOTE: Greeting

[Radical Rat]

I probably should have unvoted while we were discussing this...

[Dwlee99]

Yea I get it's more complicated than that, but if for instance you had a scum suspect then limming them is literally the same as greeting doing whatever he is going to do here but earlier and without limming town sooo yea this was awful but whatever

[Dwlee99]

Not sure if this is less bad than purposefully setting up a quick hammer on the tracker on page 4 of an open as town

[Enchant]

Thanks for hammering self without anyone voting me.

[Toogeloo]

Anyone scum reading dwlee reconsider going into night. The slot had no reason to claim knowledge that Mafia targeted me last night if they were scum.

[Radical Rat]

Thanks for hammering self without anyone voting me.

Wait did you really lose all your votes during that?

F

[Greeting]

Anyway, I hope for the best. See y’all in the postgame.

[Enchant]

Can you atleast SAY what you will do?