Mafia 85 - Murder at the Bus Stop (game over)

[Surye]

I still don't like how xotxm got out of a wagon by going "No, power role!!111!!!!" and that's it.

Not as far as I'm concerned, I'm still waiting for a rational explanation of his behavior.

Mod edit
Votecount:
Xtoxm (2): Surye, BlakAdder
Surye (2): springlullaby, Riceballtail
Alabaska J (1): Jebus
kuribo (1): Xtoxm
Jebus (1): farside22
Wall-E (1): Alabaska J
Riceballtail (1): Wall-E

Not voting (10): Azuma, RestFermata, Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, al4xz, armlx, Cream147, Muerrto, kuribo

With 19 alive it's 10 to lynch.

[BlakAdder]

I wouldn't say that he got out of a wagon, it's just that the back-and-forth between him and Kuribo got interrupted by other conversations and Wall-E's possible scum slip. I know I still suspect him.

[armlx]

Not as far as I'm concerned, I'm still waiting for a rational explanation of his behavior.

Doubt you will get one.

[Muerrto]

WTF

Vote: Wall-E

He said K7 claimed Doc and we still lynched him anyway for information??? In what world does that happen? Lynch a claimed doc just for info?

And to get out of it he simply says 'oops' then goes onto another subject entirely voting RBT?

How the hell has no one said anything about this yet?

How does that post not make it obvious he's scum? Even if he actually thought K7 claimed, since K7 would've claimed DOC, who in their right friggin mind would've kept their vote on him EVER?

1 down...

[al4xz]

Personally, I don't like the Xtomx attack. Xtomx usually plays like a fucked up kid, so I don't see anything TOO suspicious about this. However, the fact that Kuribo is pushing it so hard intrigues me...as does the fact that Xtomx actually resorted to LOGIC this time, even though it was epic phail logic. Interesting.

I'm not "pushing" anything, I'm defending myself from an argument worthy of Corky from Life Goes On.

I'm afraid you're showing your age, my dear.

Let's face facts and move on from wah wah the doc died. I admit I saw his claim before he was lynched, but figured we needed the information. His claim should have been more heartfelt.

I believe he(K7) claimed in a short-and-shitty kind of way, as in he claimed a power role, but he didn't provide any details. Or perhaps that was Xtomx.

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above, and then combining it with what he knows now (that K7 was a doc), and figured he claimed doc. That's the logical explanation as town. Mafia, he's dead meat.

Heavy FoS: Wall-E

I still don't like how xotxm got out of a wagon by going "No, power role!!111!!!!" and that's it.

I believe I provided an argument concerning meta and personal opinion as well as various other sort of things, showing that your little quote above is, in a single word, a lie. That, or you forgot. Personally, I'll be keeping a closer eye on you now.
IGMEOY: Armlx

[Riceballtail]

VOTE:Wall-E
HoS:Al4ex

Mod: vote not counted, unvote first

Clearly these two are scumbuddies, if he admits that there's a good case, but refuses to actually put the vote on this early.

[Riceballtail]

EBWOP: al4xz, not al4ex. Under a bit of stress right now and not thinking as clearly as I wish I was.

[RestFermata]

It was xtoxm, al4xz. K7 never claimed in any way, shape, or form unless it was some cryptic breadcrumb that no one but Wall-E could decipher.

[Surye]

I'm on the edge of my seat regarding Wall-E's reply. Even if there was something he could decipher, why did he not offer it up?

Unvote, Vote: Wall-E

Seeing a powerrole claim, and saying nothing on the deadline before the obvious lynching is the scummiest thing you can really do :/

[Wall-E]

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above, and then combining it with what he knows now (that K7 was a doc), and figured he claimed doc.

This. Apologies, I'm distracted by school.

It's irrelevant, but why is what I said a potential scumslip?

[armlx]

I believe I provided an argument concerning meta and personal opinion as well as various other sort of things, showing that your little quote above is, in a single word, a lie.

And how the fuck am I scum? Idiots...

And yeh, i'm a powerrole btw, so get you votes off me ffs.

Huh... where's my lie?

[kuribo]

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above, and then combining it with what he knows now (that K7 was a doc), and figured he claimed doc. That's the logical explanation as town. Mafia, he's dead meat.

I don't like you dropping an FOS on the guy... after you make this nice, convenient excuse for him.

[Surye]

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above, and then combining it with what he knows now (that K7 was a doc), and figured he claimed doc.

This. Apologies, I'm distracted by school.

It's irrelevant, but why is what I said a potential scumslip?

Wait, what? I want to be clear. Xtoxm softclaiming in day 2 made you think K7 claimed doc at the end of day 1?

[kuribo]

Vote: al4xz

since I coulda swore I typed that already.

[Surye]

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above, and then combining it with what he knows now (that K7 was a doc), and figured he claimed doc. That's the logical explanation as town. Mafia, he's dead meat.

I don't like you dropping an FOS on the guy... after you make this nice, convenient excuse for him.

This really only makes sense if they are scum buddies. Which they could be, but I'm curious why you vote for al4xz over Wall-E. Do you see a point to al4xz's behavior where Wall-E is town and al4xz is scum?

[armlx]

Vote: al4xz

since I coulda swore I typed that already.

I can endorse this decision. The more I think about it, the more I can see xtoxm just saying the power role thing regardless of actual role or alignment.

Unvote, Vote al4xz

[Surye]

Vote: al4xz

since I coulda swore I typed that already.

I can endorse this decision. The more I think about it, the more I can see xtoxm just saying the power role thing regardless of actual role or alignment.

Unvote, Vote al4xz

I'm confused You say you think xtoxm is lying, and then vote al4xz?

[armlx]

You say you think xtoxm is lying

I do think its very possible. I've also come to remember I can't associate xtoxm lying with him being scum necessarily.

[Wall-E]

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above, and then combining it with what he knows now (that K7 was a doc), and figured he claimed doc.

This. Apologies, I'm distracted by school.

It's irrelevant, but why is what I said a potential scumslip?

Wait, what? I want to be clear. Xtoxm softclaiming in day 2 made you think K7 claimed doc at the end of day 1?

It may even have been cross-game confusion. I apologize again.

[kuribo]

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above, and then combining it with what he knows now (that K7 was a doc), and figured he claimed doc. That's the logical explanation as town. Mafia, he's dead meat.

I don't like you dropping an FOS on the guy... after you make this nice, convenient excuse for him.

This really only makes sense if they are scum buddies. Which they could be, but I'm curious why you vote for al4xz over Wall-E. Do you see a point to al4xz's behavior where Wall-E is town and al4xz is scum?

Yes, if Wall-E were town, and al4xz was scum, Al could be trying to buddy up to a townie so that if Wall-E were lynched, he could point back and say "I told you so." Of course, there's no way of knowing this now.

The vote falls on Al because I want to know why he felt the need to toss Wall-E an excuse for his behavior, and to me the best way to hasten his tongue is through voting.

[RestFermata]

I thought xtoxm was more joking than lying. I didn't really take the so-called softclaim seriously at the time, though I guess since people are paying attention to it I suppose it's possible that he wasn't joking, or was only half-joking. However, if it really wasn't serious, I find it scummy that he isn't coming out and saying it after his comment got so much attention. However, I can't know one way or another, and I'm not sure I want to ask at this point.

[BlakAdder]

Wall-E, you have not given a straight answer yet. You've just quoted what Al4xz said, which did not make much sense to begin with.

unvote, vote: Wall-E

and

fos: Al4xz

[al4xz]

I believe I provided an argument concerning meta and personal opinion as well as various other sort of things, showing that your little quote above is, in a single word, a lie.

And how the fuck am I scum? Idiots...

And yeh, i'm a powerrole btw, so get you votes off me ffs.

Huh... where's my lie?

I still don't like how xotxm got out of a wagon by going "No, power role!!111!!!!"

and that's it

.

Bolded the part that's the lie, because I defended him, and I clearly remember it.

Clearly these two are scumbuddies, if he admits that there's a good case, but refuses to actually put the vote on this early.

RBT, the thing is, it's a strong case, but the fact stands that it could easily be a confusion. I won't add my vote to the case even if that means I'm going to be the one to be lynched unless Wall-E continues to act scummy.

I don't like you dropping an FOS on the guy... after you make this nice, convenient excuse for him.

Apoligies for not being clear. I AM suspicious of Wall-E, regardless of the fact that I made a case on his side. You guys are correct; it IS a potential scumslip, but it can as easily be a potential slip made by a Townie.

I can endorse this decision. The more I think about it, the more I can see xtoxm just saying the power role thing regardless of actual role or alignment.

Armlx, I don't understand what you are trying to say here. First you drop the above paragraph, and then that somehow translates into a vote how...?

Wall-E, you have not given a straight answer yet. You've just quoted what Al4xz said, which did not make much sense to begin with.
unvote, vote: Wall-E and fos: Al4xz

Hey! I resent that!
*cough*
OK, here's what I was trying to say by this phrase, if it's what your talking about:

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above [Xtomx claiming to be a powerrole], and then combining it with what he[Wall-E] knows now (that K7 was a doc [he confuses Xtomx with K7]), and figured he[K7] claimed doc.

If that's not clear, I apoligize again.

Well, it seems I've made myself quite unpopular for defending Wall-E. Tell me, though: could it have been a mistake on the part of the Town? Well? And do you really think what Wall-E said was something a good Mafia player would have said? Seriously.

[armlx]

Bolded the part that's the lie, because I defended him, and I clearly remember it.

P sure your defense had little to do with any vote shifts.

Armlx, I don't understand what you are trying to say here. First you drop the above paragraph, and then that somehow translates into a vote how...?

I mean, same LALurks + lurkishness of cream early, the BS trying to call a "lie" later. Bringing up jester on the slicey wagon after voting. Non-committal start today including the only all FOS tell.

Oh yeah, and looking back you didn't defend xtoxm after the K7 lynch, only lightly before.

[Wall-E]

Hmm. I think Wall-E remembered that which I listed above [Xtomx claiming to be a powerrole], and then combining it with what he[Wall-E] knows now (that K7 was a doc [he confuses Xtomx with K7]), and figured he[K7] claimed doc.

Exactly right.