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VOTE: tweetie

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hello friends i need 6 more votes to get rid of the bat villainess

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sup andres

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r u mafia with tweetie or something

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id be jealous ngl ive always wanted to roll scum with my favorite bat

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hi angela!!!!

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sup andres

Hey Pooky. I gotta say, I’m going to try and be careful with your slot.

I know have a Scum game under my belt, so you can go take a look at that and compare it to my play here over time. It should be obvious what I am.

what do u mean be careful with my slot :/

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congrats on your first scum game here !

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hi angela!!!!

hello friend +)

^______^


i am town this time r u? :3

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hi angela!!!!

hello friend +)

^______^


i am town this time r u? :3

i am town! isis is jealous of how often i roll town

i am jelllly too

i have over 70% scum roll rate its ridiculous

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sup andres

Hey Pooky. I gotta say, I’m going to try and be careful with your slot.

I know have a Scum game under my belt, so you can go take a look at that and compare it to my play here over time. It should be obvious what I am.

what do u mean be careful with my slot :/

I have played with you as both alignments, and gotten you wrong last two times you played with me (as Town and Scum). Which means my accuracy regarding your alignment is horrific. That’s what I mean.

oh dont worry about that lol

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gera perhaps you should vote tweetie i heard she loves votes

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It is in my nature to worry about stuff like that.

ok have u figured out i must be town yet

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id be jealous ngl ive always wanted to roll scum with my favorite bat

i'm glad we both agree to not count team mafia towards that

that game never happened as far as i'm concerned

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tweetie voting me after i already towntold mmmmhmmmmmmmmm this bat is dEsperAte

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VOTE: nero cain

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mine

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i can hear angela and tweetie conspiring in the scum pt plotting how to evilly murder me

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im town homie dw

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bruh u can tell im town cuz im like happy to have actually rolled town for once lol

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reads so far:

town:
andres
galron

scumbag:
nero CaIn

Possibly plotting evil ReVenGeZ:
Tweetie / Angela

null:
gera

hidden:
DragonS

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im actually ok with policying nm for the shoshin repout

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morning tweet should know why!!!!!

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i have heard that shoshin doesn't confirm scum role pms

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is it really icky if its true

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like the shoshin thing i dont know for a fact

i only heard about it from krazy 2 years ago that shoshin doesnt confirm scum role pms he called it "the shoshin clause"

and here shoshin signed up and then didnt confirm her role pm so uh lolol it points to scum!shoshin

now maybe shoshin just got bored and forgot about the site, but maybe this is shoshin ghosting a scum role pm.

maybe someone can sub in and redeem the slot. but NM rep'd in and i kind of doubt NM will redeem anything.

so im thinking maybe we just yeet this slot to get it out of the way and its p likely we hit scum here or at lesst get rid of a distraction if the slot is not scum.

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

Great, I'm getting flashbacks to my previous game with NM.

The last time I saw this N_M post he ended up being town.

he literally posts this as his first post in every game he plays. its nai

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*flops ears*

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VOTE: KT

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This entire exchange is bizarre but I'm fairly sure angela and Scorpious are not both scum at least. Smells slightly of TvT.

this is kind if icky

i dunno about NM and I kind of not great at reading him - i do think shoshin ghosting is kind of ++ scum

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i

hm

thoughts on morning tweet?

shes is a master of disguise and I don't trust her :3

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I believe you

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tweeeeeeeetieeeee

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Tweeeeeeeetie

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Tweetie I’m bored can we just kill someone alrdy

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im sorry pooky im playing the game for once..... i think

Playing the game involves killing people!!

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There are a lot of towny players so far. I think gerain, Scorp, Andre, angela, Dragons are all town and i might even be able to expound upon those

pedit: I don't think i'm anything but fair there to be honest, at least for the first few posts in the exchange. I haven't read the lengthier later ones yet though, correct

I have to say - I really don’t like this grouping. Scorpious is expressing a lot of confidence that I’m Scum, yet you think both of us are Town? So you think I’m just way off? I also can’t quite understand why you would have STD in that early group of what seem like your surefire Town. geraintm even less so, especially when they’ve said that most of their posts are all just fluff. I would argue geraintm hasn’t deviated all that far away from null territory.

I do think you're way off, yes. It could also be me that's off. Do you find that hard to believe given it's day 1 and we're like 20 pages in?

At least one and possibly both of us are way off. That's normal, town usually takes some time to start locating each other well. In my current opinion of the gamestate there is a lot of town fighting town so that's why I've been playing a bit defensively for others

My strongest feelings on town are Scorp/Andre/angela

Gerain/dragons are weaker and not as surefire

Sorry i just ordered them as they came to mind in that post.

Hurtful towards me :<

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There are a lot of towny players so far. I think gerain, Scorp, Andre, angela, Dragons are all town and i might even be able to expound upon those

pedit: I don't think i'm anything but fair there to be honest, at least for the first few posts in the exchange. I haven't read the lengthier later ones yet though, correct

I have to say - I really don’t like this grouping. Scorpious is expressing a lot of confidence that I’m Scum, yet you think both of us are Town? So you think I’m just way off? I also can’t quite understand why you would have STD in that early group of what seem like your surefire Town. geraintm even less so, especially when they’ve said that most of their posts are all just fluff. I would argue geraintm hasn’t deviated all that far away from null territory.

I do think you're way off, yes. It could also be me that's off. Do you find that hard to believe given it's day 1 and we're like 20 pages in?

At least one and possibly both of us are way off. That's normal, town usually takes some time to start locating each other well. In my current opinion of the gamestate there is a lot of town fighting town so that's why I've been playing a bit defensively for others

My strongest feelings on town are Scorp/Andre/angela

Gerain/dragons are weaker and not as surefire

Sorry i just ordered them as they came to mind in that post.

Hurtful towards me :<

i feel pretty strongly that you are town if not mafia is mafia, does that count?

I’m town even if he is not mafia!

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im gonna just sheep angela cuz she sounds like she knows what shes doing

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i lowkey think nero-nm-kitty-scorp contains all the scum

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by lowkey i mean i didnt think very much about it at all and im probly wrong :3

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i lowkey think nero-nm-kitty-scorp contains all the scum

hmhmhm

i did ask you if you thought three of these four were the mafia team earlier

why nero cain though?

i thought one nero cain post was like

very town

but i also don’t really want to explain it at any length so

how bad is my memory that i have no memory of this rofl

i dunno i kind of expect town nero to have pissed me off by now rofl

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I will read everything you post angela :3

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dont agree on scorp but happy to be wrong

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i feel like it's fairly clear angela/scorp/andres are town at this point

i think scum is in like, Pooky/Nero/Galron

I don't think Kitty is scum as much and Rathe pretty much said what i was thinking with regards to scum being more on the quiet side and Scorp/Angela/andres all likely being town

At worst there's one scum in that group but I wouldn't know which rn

i dont believe tweetie actually srs me so this post is quite ??? to me

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dude rolls scum all the time and he sounds just like this

i dont think ive ever even played with town scorp

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what makes him townie?

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like i read his posts and i have 0 idea what he is trying to do

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thats not deflecting thats me asking u a question

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why would he double down and attack you when he has no traction on you

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i dont have a lot of experience with scorp town

i have experience watching him play scum

and he is feisty and likes to fight about random shit

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like sure his posts are longer and bigger than his recently completed scum games

but when i read them from start to finish i have no idea what hes actually trying to accomplish.

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why cant he be scum and not believe your roll percentage?

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why would he double down and attack you when he has no traction on you

MalcolmTucker was voting me, and Kitty thinks I’m null. This isn’t entirely accurate.

i dont think either of them are very influential in being able to force an elim thru atm

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why cant he be scum and not believe your roll percentage?

I don’t think Scum would openly accuse me of lying about something like that. When I’m Scum, D1 at least, I try and keep my accusations somewhat more vague (a bit like what you’re doing right now). Because it’s easier to defend later in the game when my targets flip Town. If Scorpious was Scum, I doubt they would go accuse someone of lying about something specific. Or insist on that for so long. Because the minute they’re proven to be wrong on the facts, then they look bad. Scum would instinctively look to avoid that.

ok but this dude literally claimed bulletproof cop once and got away with it so I'm not really a fan of townreading him based on "i wouldn't do this as scum so he wouldn't do this as scum"

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But it still doesn’t mean they weren’t getting

any

traction.

I think we're just splitting hairs here, I'll concede he maybe had

some

traction but I interpreted in my mind as 0 cuz i dont see you being a viable elimination today at any point.

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you're townreading him for doing something you wouldn't do as scum

that is a bad reason to townread him because you are not him.

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like sure his posts are longer and bigger than his recently completed scum games

Do you feel post length is AI?

for some people it can be

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like sure his posts are longer and bigger than his recently completed scum games

Do you feel post length is AI?

for some people it can be

and what determines who it applies to?

experience

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you're townreading him for doing something you wouldn't do as scum

that is a bad reason to townread him because you are not him.

This is… sigh Pooky c’mon. Read my entire post. If I’m going to actually expand upon my thinking, then don’t grab onto the one thing you disagree with to discard my read entirely.

i am responding to 653

i am fine with not elimming scorp

its win-win for me

either hes town and its good

or hes scum and ill get to dunk on u hehe

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she might be a scum bat

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she has no urgency to push me

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i think if she actually thinks im scum she priotizes pushing me because she knows scum me shoots town her very early and i am also dangerous enough that i can run the table

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for context:

tweetie just modded a game where me!scum fooled galron!town at elo so it should make sense to her that galron would enter this game somewhat paranoid of me.

he was also similarly lost/inactivish throughout her game

so its weird to me she would think me/galron are partnered AND decide to vote for galron btw the two of us.

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galron was mostly inactive for the entire game that tweetie modded so i dont see how she scumreads him for not being around here.

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I don't like how X-1 is removed from the game

I wouldn't eliminate NM by himself but factoring in the other thing that adds up to 2 strikes

Oh! NM is Shoshin. *tap head* I'm really starting to crack this case open

I vote against that slot for the record but I will give some time on it in case that's not the path others want

But for me that's two strikes

Pooky summed up his thoughts so much better than me. that's moreo r less what i meant

it's not so much I want to remove NM every time as, like, the slot is more likely scum and that's never going to change now. Plus we get X-1s back

Scorpio NM having nothing AI is precisely why we're talking about it. He's not null this game, he's plus scum to me

Geraint your vote doesnt jibe with what you said

Does no one else find it weird that half of the game instantly shuts down any and all discussion surrounding NM for some reason?

I am not asking for him to be eliminated today but down the line I want you to remember that he's going to always be +scum and he will quickhammer all wagons on top of that (even in Xylo if he's scum).

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also like did i miss it or did our favorite cow walk in and do anything ai cuz why did tweet just randomly drop him from her scum list?

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@Pooky your vote has been sitting on Kitty for a long time. Is that the player you really think should be executed today?

ill probly end up sheeping whatever angela wants tbh

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shes awesome and has better reads than i do most of the time

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like sure his posts are longer and bigger than his recently completed scum games

Do you feel post length is AI?

for some people it can be

and what determines who it applies to?

experience

So in your "experience". Who in this game gets a pass for short posts?

nobody gets passes for short posts

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it depends on player meta, depth/nuance of thought, intent, emotion etc.

there is no magic number to hit.

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no

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short post doesnt mean you are not town

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i dont read anyone as town for posting short snippets

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lol ok

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are you going to explain what the point of your questions was ?

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lol ok

side note, and trust me I see the "03" next to your name..

When people play the game, and are met with "lol ok" It kinda deters people from wanting to make an effort..
which in turn makes them despondent ,which inevitably leads to accusations of them not scum hunting. I get it. I'm not one of your site friends.. but that doesn't make my input less valuable because we havent been buddies for 5 years...

can u not do the same stupid shitty ate u did when u were scum last time its boring

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are you going to explain what the point of your questions was ?

I'm trying to get names from you that you would give leeway to for short posts, but you obviously are evading doing that,so it's pointless.

I do not townread people for making short posts

i townread certain people for certain types of long posts.

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didnt rly like the interaction with scorpius n pooky but i would probably still add pooky in the town group

am i supposed to not answer his stupid questions lol

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you asked me who i townread for writing short posts

i said noone


because i literally do not townread people for writing short posts

thats not me dodging your question

thats me giving you an incredibly exact answer

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am i supposed to not answer his stupid questions lol

ur answers didnt allow scorpius or anyone else to try to figure u out

which question should i have answered differently in which way

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why dont u tell me how u expect a town player to answer one of scorps questions in a way that helps "figure them out"

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you asked me who i townread for writing short posts

i said noone


because i literally do not townread people for writing short posts

thats not me dodging your question

thats me giving you an incredibly exact answer

in other words

in 100+ games i have played here on this website

i do not remember ever expressing the opinion

that i townread _____ for writing short posts

because like lol what even is that reason for townreading someone.

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like its such a stupid fucking reason to townread someone

he might as well have asked me whether i townread people for having squirrels in their avatars

and when i say no i dont

oooh im being nonspecific about which squirrel avatar players i townread!!!

roflmao

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you asked me who i townread for writing short posts

i said noone


because i literally do not townread people for writing short posts

thats not me dodging your question

thats me giving you an incredibly exact answer

I gave you two opportunities to tell me who you would be willing to accept short posts based on your reasons that you yourself gave me,So I was asking you to apply that reasoing to this game.

Both times you didn't.

and like I said, you raised the issue and I wanted to know more.

i said i townread certain people who write long posts for writing long posts

that has literally nothing to fucking do with someone writing short posts!!!!

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like sure his posts are longer and bigger than his recently completed scum games

but when i read them from start to finish i have no idea what hes actually trying to accomplish.

This is why I was asking my "stupid" questions..

wtf does this have to do with townreading people for writing short posts?

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i noted a difference between your posting here and several completed scumgames of yours

that literally has nothing to do with townreading people for posting short posts.

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talking with you is pointless

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yea i really dont have any reason to take u seriously

you r probly just trolling me in bad faith for lulz or something

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It bothers me that a simple few questions has devolved you into thinking I'm trolling you.

I really don't get this game sometimes..

you asked me who i townread for writing short posts


i said noone because i literally never townread people for "writing short posts"

you then said i am avoiding naming names for this.

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subtlety is not my strong suit

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as i haven't actually talked to pooky about mafia at any length i have just played a lot with pooky and read other pooky games and created a version of pooky in my head and that is what i have described here

you understand me so well <3

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Like I wouldn’t stop voting you just so I can preserve a mailman. There’s probably multiple elements of the game I’m missing obviously with incomplete information, but I’m not all of a sudden going to start thinking oh a mailman? That’s such an important role, I need to immediately unvote.

Having said that, what it does do is confirm at night that you’re away from where the NK takes place (unless you can multi-task), which I suppose on balance is a positive.

Can someone chime in here?

mafia have multitasking so its literally useless unless there's a mafia ascetic

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like realistically the only thing you can do with it is send msgs that say "hey if you receive this message then say ____" in your first post of the day and if they don't say it then you find a mafia ascetic?

its kind of a shitty checker?

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also scorp if u have no idea how to play mailman why didnt u just claim and ask for suggestions lol

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i don't think this is a fakeclaim becuz it'd be so dumb to fake claim a mailman role you don't have

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like realistically the only thing you can do with it is send msgs that say "hey if you receive this message then say ____" in your first post of the day and if they don't say it then you find a mafia ascetic?

its kind of a shitty checker?

likelihood to you right now?

no idea on the setup spec atp

I'm fine with letting him live today and maybe picking someone else becuz role claims get clarified later

becuz if scorp is a town mailman and there is a mafia ascetic in this game i dont think mafia can just let him live and look for them

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btw scorp do you understand what i am telling you about how to play your role?

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like, he could certainly be a town mailman but if he's a mafia mailman it seems like he'd make a better claim than that, does that make more sense?

i mean this dude did fakeclaim bulletproof cop once so i'm not sure about this take from u lol

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but he claimed COP so no one wanted to vote him

ok but literally nobody should've believed that bulletproof cop is a thing lol

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i guess i see your point that its +town for him becuz scum!him claims really whack bullshit lol

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feeling kind of miffed tbh that I wrote all these wild accusations for Tweetie and she did not address them at all >.>

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so you r thinking nero+scorp scum?

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I think from observing Nero play town in Infernal Affairs - he has a lot of conviction in his reads and pushes.

and Nero!scum in the last mini I played with him did not

so this feels a lot closer to Nero!scum than nero!town to me - I am not sure what he believes or even wants to do.

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its hard for me to read scorp because a lot of things he does do not make sense to me

so it's hard for me to think anything he does is alignment indicative because he's just irrational to me.

I do think he is

more

feisty than when he was scum in the games I have played with him, but I don't know if that's actually AI for him.

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I'm actually fine with a tweetie wagon rn cuz she ignored me lol

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i dont think its elevating, scorp is the only one on the list that is really under threat of being limmed

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if I was scum with Scorp I'd tell him to claim better

i mean it is a better claim than bulletproof cop ngl

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this is the normal queue so obviously he cant make ridiculous claims duuuuh

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tweetie how come you didnt respond to anything I said about you >.>

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hmmmm you're lucky I already committed to sheeping Angela

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why wouldnt you want to push me on d1 if u think im scum again?

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i'm actually fine with limming STD at this point i didnt even remember the dude was playing the game until galron mentioned him

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I'm basically just waiting for Angela to come carry us to the promised land atp

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Actually, starting a wagon on STD at this stage is probably pointless.

What do you think of Scorp, Pook?

I don't really know atp cuz I don't really have a good town baseline for how he plays - I'm fine with letting him live and use his mailman ability in hopes that there's actually a mafia ascetic and they decide to shoot him at night or w/e

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I cut down on the number of games i play at a time from like 8 to 3

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also im kind of sick so more computer time yay

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i didn't really play on the site from 2008->2020

i only came back cuz of covid - some friends recruited me for a game.

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I would never <3

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um when

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if you want I am happy to steer the ship instead :3

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oh i thought the 5-hydra game was a meme

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I am fine with STD - Tweet - NM atp

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I might be biased in that I tend to scumread people who feel apathetic and it ends up missing sometimes because sometimes the game is just boring

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everybody's searching for something

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Look at that last game where Pooky beat me in elo. He planted that seed after I said that I didn't want to disappoint you. That factored in to me mizzing Cakez at elo. Not to the extreme, but a bit.

I was actually terrified the whole time you would iso her and find that she wanted to murder me :<

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VOTE: nm

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Why is there a wagon on me?

we are sheeping you

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thanks for modding greeting!

i think you are too hard on yourself angela. - you did tremendously well forcing the game down the right path after all.

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i am proud i picked every scumbag correctly by calling every person in the game scum at least once go me