UK Eastermeet 2022 Invitational (Game over!)

[Shanba]

if i report shanba, do you reckon he'll get banned

I'd rather you didn't

[McMenno]

can't you people read. im not gonna unnominate Bella until we get a better option

[mykonian]

can't you people read. im not gonna unnominate Bella until we get a better option

No.

And it sounded like you were giving them hope. That's such a dangerous emotion.

[Takuma]

what the fuck r u still talking abt potatoes for its extremely anti town
im not giving away my potato under any circumstance and nor should anyone who is town
we need as many nights as possible for town powers to activate
townies saccing themself only reduces that

[cpol]

I disagree, I think there is a conversation to be had around it. And I don't think it's always anti-town.

[ChannelDelibird]

Nomination

Primate has nominated Bellaphant for execution.

McMenno is not obliged to decide immediately on whether to confirm or veto this nomination, but neither Consul may nominate another player until a decision on this nomination has been made.

Potato Count

Here's how many potatoes each player currently holds:

Bellaphant

has

1 potato

.

Cogito Ergo Sum

has

1 potato

.

cpol

has

1 potato

.

Fenchurch

has

1 potato

.

Klick

has

1 potato

.

McMenno

has

1 potato

.

mykonian

has

1 potato

.

Nexus

has

1 potato

.

Porochaz

has

1 potato

.

Primate

has

1 potato

.

Postie

has

1 potato

.

Takuma

has

1 potato

.

Wenna

has

1 potato

.

The potato rules:

• At the start of Day 2, each living player must eat a potato. Any town-aligned players who are unable to do so (on account of not having a potato in their possession at the time) will immediately die.
  
• At any time during Day 1, any player with 1 or more potatoes may post "
  Pass Potato to [Player Name]
  " on a new line of text. This will transfer 1 potato to the chosen player.
  
• No player may hold more than 2 potatoes at any one time.

Non-Binding Vote Count

Bellaphant (4):

Cogito Ergo Sum, Postie, cpol, mykonian

cpol (2):

Klick, Fenchurch

mykonian (2):

Bellaphant, Primate

Porochaz (1):

Nexus

Remember that votes have no tangible game effect at the moment; only the Consuls can nominate and execute. This vote count only exists because the mod is a cool pal who's here to help.

Activity

Wenna

has been prodded.

Time until deadline: (expired on 2022-04-28 19:00:00).

[Nexus]

unvote vote cpol

die scum

[mykonian]

Vote Nexus

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Have you played scum recently, Nexus?

[Fenchurch]

Current scumteam guess: Cpol and Takuma

I personally believe that the potatoes can be pro-town. I think having access to multiple executions is a net benefit, even on D1.

However, I think town should only be prepared to give up their potato if they are otherwise going to be executed, to allow for more executions.

I think cpol is suspicious for

immediately

offering to give up his potato 'to the right person'. In the original potato game, Menno immediately gave away one of their potatoes and I called them town for it for the rest of the game. Fool me once, etc...

Takuma is my second pick for scum for hardly engaging with the game apart from to complain about potatoes.

Bella is a neutral read for me, so I'm not really opposed to her execution. Nexus still seems town. Myko is neutral-leaning-scum.

[McMenno]

I think cpol is suspicious for immediately offering to give up his potato 'to the right person'. In the original potato game, Menno immediately gave away one of their potatoes and I called them town for it for the rest of the game. Fool me once, etc...

but I

was

town in that game...

[McMenno]

I also only gave it away because I was the only person with three potatoes and Andy seemed trustworthy to me at the time. in this game that whole thing is moot since the potato mechanic will be abolished day 2. I think if people were to give their potatoes away it should be to me or Primate, since we can't be executed today anyway. the fitst two people, at least

[Nexus]

Have you played scum recently, Nexus?

I haven't played Mafia since the last meet I attended, I'm pretty sure.

[Nexus]

That's a lie. I played as Town in DEFCON - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86449

[Fenchurch]

but I

was

town in that game...

Wait, really...?

Who was the scum?

Was it me???

[McMenno]

Andy and Wenna

idr if there was anyone else

[Fenchurch]

Huh, woops. Maybe I gotta rethink my whole perspective on potatoes...

Although instinctively I still think Chris' offer here to give his up is irrational and therefore scummy.

[mykonian]

I think he offered that game as well and people wouldn't accept the potato.

[Fenchurch]

That doesn't sound right to me? I definitely would've accepted a potato...

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Although instinctively I still think Chris' offer here to give his up is irrational and therefore scummy.

The "therefore" is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

[cpol]

Let's test this then!

Pass Potato to Fenchurch

I'm a VT. Like in the WereLeg game I'm more than happy to give up a potato, especially as the conversation has moved towards me. I did want to pass it off to someone I thought may be a pro town power role in case of a potato stealer or the likes, but I'm not getting a strong enough vibes from anyone to do this. Instead, I'll test how Fenchurch reacts.

I'm not scum, but do see myself as low hanging fruit for an execution - either today or another day, so hopefully I can remove myself from that consideration and we can scum hunt elsewhere, especially today where there is still some time left in the day. Of course, if Fenchurch does believe me then I can have the potato back, but I only want it if it allows the conversation to go elsewhere. But my potato is now Fenchurch's your hands, so do with it as you will!

I'm still struggling to see how voluntarily handing over a potato could ever have been a scum play? And suspect there is at least one scum in the group of people who believe it could have been, as per the low hanging fruit comment. But hopefully this is now an end to the potato conversation, as I think anyone else now handing one across given the justification for doing so, is alignment neutral at best.

My vote stands on Bella for now.

[Fenchurch]

Oh gee... I wasn't expecting that! My initial instinct is to pass it right back haha Personally I don't think a potato stealer is likely so I'm not worried about needing more than one potato. But I'm going to think about it because I don't want to miss the chance to get extra executions.

The "therefore" is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

Sure, I think I'm being open in my reasoning. If I'd just said 'Chris' offer is scummy' would you have questioned it? Townies do make irrational plays, but scum have to deduce what the appropriate townie response to any situation is, and so any action that doesn't seem a natural one for a townie to make is one that is more likely to be coming from scum.

[mykonian]

but do see myself as low hanging fruit for an execution - either today or another day, so hopefully I can remove myself from that consideration and we can scum hunt elsewhere, especially today where there is still some time left in the day.

You are too down on yourself, the votes of Nexus and Klick had nothing behind them really. Primates question to you did. I don't think you'd be on the chopping block anytime soon.

I think this was a mistake, Fenchurch is the one person who doesn't remember that you had the same sentiment in the physical game.

[Nexus]

Give it back, then, Fenchurch.

[cpol]

but do see myself as low hanging fruit for an execution - either today or another day, so hopefully I can remove myself from that consideration and we can scum hunt elsewhere, especially today where there is still some time left in the day.

You are too down on yourself, the votes of Nexus and Klick had nothing behind them really. Primates question to you did. I don't think you'd be on the chopping block anytime soon.

I think this was a mistake, Fenchurch is the one person who doesn't remember that you had the same sentiment in the physical game.

That's fine, but the potato is only available today, and I didn't want to do this too late in to the day that we can't discuss how it plays out and then move on from there.