Micro 1053: DmangwGBiaf [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.08

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-05-02 11:00:00).

yeet

Yeet [3]:

Instructor Rean, NorwegianboyEE, koopashell

bugspray [2]:

Gamma Emerald, Dwlee99

Aristeia [1]:

bugspray

Instructor Rean [1]:

Save The Dragons

NorwegianboyEE [1]:

Yeet

not voting [1]:

Aristeia

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[Yeet]

What is not organic about it? Can you explain what you think a catchup wall needs to be more organic to your standards?

And I apologize for no spacing, I do realize it makes it a bit difficult to read.

It feels like something you are obligated to do and performative in that regard.

Like you decided hey I'm going to sit down and write thoughts on each slot and you pressed ISO one by one and wrote down whatever you thought of the ISO.

It implies you haven't been forming reads in real time but kind of just slacking and catching up at the end.

I told you how I formed the readslist

And yes you are correct except I didn't ISO everyone individually, I just reskimmed the whole game. I mentioned that I didn't have time the past few days and that's why I was more or less out. I am here now.

What is scummy about any of this?

It feels like you were not very interested in sorting/solving as the thread was actually happening and you needed to re-read everything because you were going to be killed otherwise.

That's scummy because some people do not like playing scum and have to be made to fake a town mindset.

But like I was busy and not really here...

I was not playing for a few days and more stuff happened and the game was only 17 pages or so, so I decided to just reskim everything to get me back into it. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to understand from a town!me perspective.

[Aristeia]

to put it more simply:

I'm scumreading the gap in your enthusiasm between the games we played together[where you were town] and this game.

Faking a townmindset/solving as scum is not

fun

for a lot of people so they tend to not do it.

When I played previously with you - both times you were very enthusiastic in solving during the early game and I felt quite good about slotting you as town.

Here you just feel like you didn't really show up to play and then when put to e-1 you did a "Catchup" that felt more like someone who had to produce some homework they procrastinated on for too long than someone actually trying to communicate their mindset.

[Aristeia]

ok I guess I will take it at face value that the reason for your absence was rl related and not alignment related and I hope you will make up the difference now that you have time to play.

[Yeet]

Well just aggressive in general, not just towards me at the time necessarily. As town you can't only care about me at that point when I wasn't in the game, you should be sorting others as well.

And did you even reading my response about my meta? You are just saying the same thing as before so what are your thoughts on that?

I don't see why I would change aggression towards someone else if you are a decent lead for me and haven't towntold/done townie things.

I didn't find it convincing because

(1) I'm comparing early game to early game.

(2) your period of inactivity in that large normal had more to do with the game state being dominated by a few exceptionally loud players and a game thread moving very quickly - neither of which is happening currently.

Can you only pursue one lead at a time or something (at the time)? Does the fact that you think I am scum despite me being away mean you just lurk out the thread and wait for me to come back? Why not pursue other avenues of questioning while you wait for me to return?

Assuming you are only talking about the Large Normal

Yes you are comparing early game to early game but I started being engaged and dishing out lots of takes very early on in the other two games - this one it took me 17 pages or so and a few RL days to actually get into it. I'm going to feel different. And I remind you that in the large normal game that people literally jumped on me after I was not around for a bit because I felt like an "unconfident, totally different player to the spazzy early Yeet". That is more of the me that you are seeing here. And I don't think you were really around for that. Both of these phases would be considered more or less "early game".

[Yeet]

to put it more simply:

I'm scumreading the gap in your enthusiasm between the games we played together[where you were town] and this game.

Faking a townmindset/solving as scum is not

fun

for a lot of people so they tend to not do it.

When I played previously with you - both times you were very enthusiastic in solving during the early game and I felt quite good about slotting you as town.

Here you just feel like you didn't really show up to play and then when put to e-1 you did a "Catchup" that felt more like someone who had to produce some homework they procrastinated on for too long than someone actually trying to communicate their mindset.

Gotcha. Yeah if you assume at 100% face value that I truly did have RL stuff going on at the beginning then this argument goes away, but if you can't assume that, then that would naturally result in a scumread on me. This is fair.

About the last sentence there, it was sort of like a catchup homework assignment I was procrastinating on so that's probably why it felt like it. I checked the thread a couple times on mobile while I was getting run up out of curiosity but just didn't have time to say much at the time.

[Yeet]

vote count 1.08

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-05-02 11:00:00).

yeet

Yeet [3]:

Instructor Rean, NorwegianboyEE, koopashell

bugspray [2]:

Gamma Emerald, Dwlee99

Aristeia [1]:

bugspray

Instructor Rean [1]:

Save The Dragons

NorwegianboyEE [1]:

Yeet

not voting [1]:

Aristeia

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Datisi I appreciate being important enough to you to be the name of the VC

[Aristeia]

Spoiler: For Dats

(*˘︶˘*).｡.:*♡ Have a Good Night (´♡‿♡`)

[Yeet]

One thing that I plan to mull over/at least keep in mind is: What were scum doing while town was waiting for me to come play when I was at E1? I think it's an interesting exercise for anyone who wants to help brainstorm.

Of course scum want my elimination to go through, but they don't want to look bad for rushing it.

The reward is: I was uncertain to go through before, but by rushing it a bit more they can close to guarantee it.
The risk is: They look bad for not giving me the chance to catch up.

If scum thinks that I am probably going to go through anyway and assume that I've just given up this game or something, maybe that would incentivize them to be more laissez faire and position themselves very passively/away from the limelight of the push. If scum thinks that there's a real chance I come back and effort then maybe rushing it makes more sense, especially if they are in danger of being elimmed. No one here feels like a universal TR or SR so I'm not sure that any scum could feel super at ease.

I'm not really sure where this is leading, it's just a brain dump.

[koopashell]

bruh yeet is so blatant lol

has no time to go through the game has time to make defensive statements
all they wanna share is how much they "totally can't be scum" here with no solvy energy.

kill it pleaae and ty.

[Dwlee99]

Fine but you better not be wrong
VOTE: Yeet

[Yeet]

bruh yeet is so blatant lol

has no time to go through the game has time to make defensive statements
all they wanna share is how much they "totally can't be scum" here with no solvy energy.

kill it pleaae and ty.

I am here now and interacting with content in the moment, which, yes, is currently revolved entirely around me. I made my catchup already and there's no real reason for me to reading it super carefully when I find more value in the current engagements.

[Yeet]

Fine but you better not be wrong
VOTE: Yeet

? They are wrong

[Dwlee99]

Prove it ?

[koopashell]

ya self vote so we can see your role card

[Yeet]

Do you think I am scum? Or are you just sheeping koopa? What exactly do you want me to prove?

[Yeet]

ya self vote so we can see your role card

I'm not going to be tilted by you again.

[koopashell]

ok real talk im paranoid no one has pushed me cuz im intentionally playing this kind of playstyle that should get attention which makes me feel like the scum in tbe game think im some sort of IC looking to spring a trap or like everyone else is informed im town or some shit

[Dwlee99]

I think you could be sure

[Dwlee99]

Koba I just knew to avoid you for D1 before I night kill you tonight and can start turning the gears y'know

[koopashell]

Do you think I am scum? Or are you just sheeping koopa? What exactly do you want me to prove?

no offense i just think by poe u have to be scum bc largely i find everyone else has towntold + bugspray who hates long days refused to hammer you so i believe they spewed you as scum as well.

[Yeet]

I think you could be sure

Why? Give one single good reason that hasn't been refuted.

[Yeet]

Do you think I am scum? Or are you just sheeping koopa? What exactly do you want me to prove?

no offense i just think by poe u have to be scum bc largely i find everyone else has towntold + bugspray who hates long days refused to hammer you so i believe they spewed you as scum as well.

This actually made me a lot less tilted, thank you, this is reasonable.

[Yeet]

I am also okay killing bugspray, to be clear.

[Dwlee99]

I think you could be sure

Why? Give one single good reason that hasn't been refuted.

Have any of them been refuted

VOTE: bugspray

Whatever I'll go back here cause it feels like the koopa agrees w me that this is scum but is voting you instead