Recent closed mini normal had an UNGATED Cop. And a gated Tracker. I wouldn't be so sure.In post 1396, Crescent wrote:The only town roles I know of that scans guilty to gunsmith are cop and vig. Cop won't be in a game of 13 with Gunsmith and someone mentioned long ago that this host hates vigs and doesn't use them. Godfather-type roles are common, but not sure what would exist to give you a false positive specifically.In post 1388, MathBlade wrote:Fake guilty to nerf town power and fake inno to swing for scumIn post 1386, Crescent wrote:Why does a Gunsmith claim make a JK more likely than a Doctor?
Though this reminds me... I asked this before and didn't really get an answer: How common are scum RBs here? I've had one in like 95% of the games I've played.
Titus knew she died without it and wanted Scorpious dead
I knew I likely don’t get off another check
She decided to out to get utility.
I can probably count on one hand how many gunsmiths I've seen in all my time playing, though. I'm not exactly the best place for Gunsmith meta.
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Yes I omitted you because I was going to check you which made sorting you pointless.In post 1395, Meuh wrote:
...you purposely omitted me and said Italiano was non-hood because you were gonna check me?In post 1384, MathBlade wrote:There was a reason for that I was gonna check you.
I was hoping by being loud this wouldn’t be necessary and scum thought my loud VT and not a PR.
also you aren't always this loud?
I'm perplexed
I am always this loud but I was being more so in expectation throwing off scum I am VT.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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The wiki requires updating then. It's like the go to place for normal rules outside of directly asking a moderator which is slow at best.In post 1398, MathBlade wrote:
Jail keepers have guns. It’s been a long standing ruleIn post 1394, JacksonVirgo wrote:
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This seems oddly arbitrary but good to know.In post 1399, Gamma Emerald wrote:fyi godfathers are explicitly banned in normals but false innos to non-cops are allowed
I've never heard of JK having a gun before, but I concede it could viably be a thing in a different community because it makes logical sense.
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Either the wiki needs updating or I am out of the loop where JKs don’t have guns anymore. But they did earlier. Hence my tr on Scorpious.In post 1402, JacksonVirgo wrote:
The wiki requires updating then. It's like the go to place for normal rules outside of directly asking a moderator which is slow at best.In post 1398, MathBlade wrote:
Jail keepers have guns. It’s been a long standing ruleIn post 1394, JacksonVirgo wrote:
The wiki is out of date
I really think Titus is scum here.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I think Titus is scum as well. Them being doc fits your claim, although why would scum claim Doc when that would likely mean that they had a GS to begin with. Unless it's a complete fake claim that ended up being the worst one to pick, which would be funny.In post 1405, MathBlade wrote:
Either the wiki needs updating or I am out of the loop where JKs don’t have guns anymore. But they did earlier. Hence my tr on Scorpious.In post 1402, JacksonVirgo wrote:
The wiki requires updating then. It's like the go to place for normal rules outside of directly asking a moderator which is slow at best.In post 1398, MathBlade wrote:
Jail keepers have guns. It’s been a long standing ruleIn post 1394, JacksonVirgo wrote:
The wiki is out of date
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Doubtful. They got kinda heated... to say the least in the hood.In post 1406, Meuh wrote:inb4 Mathblade/Titus S/S :lol:-
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I’m curious on what this isIn post 1374, JacksonVirgo wrote:
How illegal is it to say angleshooty or out of game reasons to think someone is scum.In post 1373, Titus wrote:
Fair. Too quiet. Avoided my claim.In post 1371, JacksonVirgo wrote:I think Meuh is mafia.
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This makes no sense.In post 1412, JacksonVirgo wrote:Math not bringing that the doc can be on them either means that Math isn't scum or they both are.
I don’t trust Titus. The last thing I want is her being responsible for my protection.
I have pretty much accepted I won’t get another check and will die.
If Titus is town and two protectives exist, then a strongman exists and I die.
If Titus or Scorpio is scum but not the other then I still die.
It’s a I die scenario and I think Titus is scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If Scorpious is town this game who can't go 5 posts without directly contradicting himself (he's contradicted himself on me/MM alone 3 separate times) then yeeesh.
Though it plays directly into that one argument in my head for him being town that I mentioned yesterday, and was intending to bring up after work until I landed in the ER instead: It's become apparent that Scorpious is a magnet for votes in games he's in, and it's made me wonder if he just has the attention span of a fish and this is just how he normally plays, because if this is how he normally plays I don't wonder where all the votes come from. Every piece of mafia logic I've ever known says him being town makes no logical sense. The only players I've ever seen contradict themselves as much as he has were doing it to actively troll the games they were in. The vibe I get from him is I'm not even sure he knows he's doing it. Anytime he gets called out on it, he immediately calls the other person a liar even after they prove the contradiction.
Basically he feels so unbelievably scummy to me that part of me hasn't wanted to believe he is. I lack a baseline with him and he may just be the naturally scummiest player I have ever played mafia with. Reading him in future games is going to be an absolute nightmare if he's town here.-
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The idea popped up in my head for a second and I found it funny. I don’t think it’s trueIn post 1413, JacksonVirgo wrote:Meuh also brought up S/S to discredit Math here. Or at least that's how I am reading it.-
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Why not?In post 1419, Gamma Emerald wrote:why even bring it up?-
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Gamma should be protected as Inno by Scorpious since I doubt they are a PR or hero shot.
Do not block me in case I get a result.
Titus (if not the elim as I think they should be) should be on me. (I think she should be the elim) JV is right in that regard.
Then this way if I die then a scum in Scorpious/Titus is proven to exist and go to town after I die
If I don’t then I get a check which may or may not be on Meuh or my original pool.
Since one doc claim out I am essentially a copScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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It does, you're tunnel-visioned.In post 1415, MathBlade wrote:
This makes no sense.In post 1412, JacksonVirgo wrote:Math not bringing that the doc can be on them either means that Math isn't scum or they both are.
I don’t trust Titus. The last thing I want is her being responsible for my protection.
I have pretty much accepted I won’t get another check and will die.
If Titus is town and two protectives exist, then a strongman exists and I die.
If Titus or Scorpio is scum but not the other then I still die.
It’s a I die scenario and I think Titus is scum.
If Titus is scum, you dead means that they're next. Strongman doesn't exist even both are real as there would be no purpose for it. There's a path to get all PRs dead. JK -> Doc -> GS. JK on Doc means GS is open to get murdered. There's no specific reason for Strongman to exist.
If Titus is scum. You won't die without them dying next, and they can't risk that. Eliminating real doc is not worth possible fake doc living to get another GS check of which we can always elim anyway. Them getting roleblocked means that the JK is likely fake and we lim there (not a set ruling, take each day as it comes).
Eliminating a PR claim here removes possibilities. Also bias can overwhelm and make us have stupid decisions so I'd recommend not doing that for today.
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If Titus does not land their actionat allwe can eliminate them. This avoids scum doing fancy plays, and even if scum isn't Titus. What's the harm over eliminating them here today. We possibly gain more than we lose.-
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It’s Titus.
She’s the ultimate scum.
I do not trust her.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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