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Why are you so convinced im such a noob town? I'm not. I've never really been the type of person to go all in on a read and force people into my mindset, im not convincing enough to do that, im not confident enough in my reads to bash anyone defending my big scumread, and i know attacking people who are in love with datisi could very easily be wrong as he couldve seduced town into doing his every wish.In post 756, Gammagooey wrote:I'm pretty surprised I'm not more on marci's radar/scumreads atm - I've been if not defending Datisi himself directly, pretty present in both generally agreeing with him+his reads and in telling Val that I think the reason he's scumreading Datisi is garbo, and it just feels pretty disconnected from her reading Datisi as scum so strongly. Plus I'm used to a more frantic energy from newish town players who have that level of confidence in a read - throwing other possible people that could be scum with the person they're 100% scum on, either attacking the people scumreading them for being other possible scum or throwing up walls that include one or both of "I'm not scum because meta reasons"/"This post from my scum read makes me think even more that they're scum and I don't get why nobody else sees it". Like I think the smug snipes at people and her last post of "oh yeah there are more/other reasons now" and the general tone she's presenting here is more likely to come from scum than town in her position.
I don't love pulling out meta, like if you clowns actually think i could be scum go ahead and miselim me because i will just LAUGH. idc how people view me im just gonna play how i find fun-
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wow so now i cant sleepIn post 760, Datisi wrote:can we instead vote marci who weirdly dipped out the thread the second they were asked what their read on me was consisted of-
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I've been giving reads so clearly the devil is just blindIn post 764, Bell wrote:Is this true Marci? do you have no reads this game and just floated by?
Is that normal for you day 1?
What's different this game compared to those if not and what's the same?
What are you thinking about this game?
Who oo you think is town nd who do you think is scum?
@Lukewarm: Where is Marci in your reads right now?
also how convenient it is!! he hasnt asked me for my opinions on anyone certain... which he could always do if he was ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE ME
theres been games where i just float by and just talk until i get something i feel in my soul. like one time someone told me it was sus for me to actually be serious about a game cuz they thought i was only a meme player ::(((
it depends on the sorta mood im in i think tbhs
i dont have alot of time to like type up thoughts since im at work for like another 4 hrs, and then ill be sleeping but if u have anything ur curious abt u can juat ask (:
i think gammagooey has a couple of agreeable takes but they piss me off so dont tell them i said that im not sure what i think of them tho aince the agreeable takes are v basic takes
i think kouvs town but i wouldnt trust them leading anything because theyre too emotional about things and too reactivey
balters i would say how self centered he is, i dont like that, so he scummy
fey towny
sircakez scummy, the bandwagoning is not good vibes at all
i dont like vals view of the invixtus mechanic because it reminds me of a diff game i played w him, but otherwise hes mid, he has some good thoughts
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what does this mean? who are these people who are "certain" that you would expect him to ask you about?In post 928, marcistar wrote:also how convenient it is!! he hasnt asked me for my opinions on anyone certain... which he could always do if he was ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE ME-
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Would you mind explaining that? The only game I ever remember playing with you in it was that one I got in the shitfight of all shitfights with Luke, which is informing how I play around the invictus mechanic here. I would assume, having been a witness to that you would understand where my view on the invictus mechanic you say you dislike comes from.In post 928, marcistar wrote:i dont like vals view of the invixtus mechanic because it reminds me of a diff game i played w him, but otherwise hes mid, he has some good thoughts
Am I missing something, or there is a different game I don't remember off the top of my head?-
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Ngl, the more this comes up, the more I've considered reading it for the laffs.In post 931, Val89 wrote:shitfight of all shitfights with Luke
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Ayy I'm finally around
You could probably guess but I vastly prefer the marci wagon to Lavar's
Like the only reason I could get for people voting him is that his posting is a little stilted and that his self-admitted tinfoil of Datisi & Marci being scum together is bad. Like he knows nobody's going to agree with it, that's why he said it's tinfoil, and I still think his early posts were good with him flatly saying what he thinks but being open to looking at other things/potentially being wrong about early reads.-
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LLD!
Read over these marci posts and tell me what you think
Spoiler: marci posts
Also would like to hear your opinion on Lavar but he's got a reasonable amount of short posts so I think he's probably iso-able in like 20 min or less-
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did you read my 844? like you can disagree with it if you want but i feel like you're kinda underselling the reasons hereIn post 933, Gammagooey wrote:Like the only reason I could get for people voting him is that his posting is a little stilted and that his self-admitted tinfoil of Datisi & Marci being scum together is bad.-
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^yeah
Spoiler: fires post for reference
I already mentioned potentially seeing his posts as stilted, & your example for the 2nd point is just him joking with Meuh b/c he forgot that Meuh voted tako earlier & feels to me at least like it came up organically from him not remembering that.
Your third & fourth point are more reasonable, I don't think votehopping is scummy and don't personally think that the Val/marci votes felt particularly opportunistic but I can see how you'd come to that conclusion at least.
I don't particularly try to engage people who scumread me as either alignment either unless they're specifically asking me something - ignoring questions I will give to you as yes it's generally scummy, I just don't remember when/where Lavar did that off the top of my head. I'll look back for it in a min though-
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Marci looks skittish in a way she hasn't before, but that doesn't make her necessarily scum. I think that she's a good wagon though.In post 935, Gammagooey wrote:LLD!
Read over these marci posts and tell me what you think
Spoiler: marci posts
Also would like to hear your opinion on Lavar but he's got a reasonable amount of short posts so I think he's probably iso-able in like 20 min or lessYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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the most significant one for me was 788 they never responded to. and that question was fairly significant for me bc i felt like their reasons for their vote were made up to justify it and i wanted to see if they had some level of internal consistency or town thought process to their readsIn post 937, Gammagooey wrote:I don't particularly try to engage people who scumread me as either alignment either unless they're specifically asking me something - ignoring questions I will give to you as yes it's generally scummy, I just don't remember when/where Lavar did that off the top of my head. I'll look back for it in a min though
i don't really agree with your characterization of the mueh interaction but ig if you don't see anything weird about it then i can't really do much about that. disregarding the joking aspect entirely though, they still came away with a townread on mueh after previously having them as a top scumread, and the reasoning for that was never really developed. do you not find that odd?-
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do you think i read back on my own scumgames? i dont.. what happens is that i erase most of it from my memory thoIn post 765, Bell wrote:What makes you town this game Marci? What have you done here that scum you wouldn't have done, or what would you have done as scum that you didn't do here?
a key detail to the marcistar scumgames is how emotional i let myself get,
like in a way of "idontmeantobutimtoonervoustohidetheseemotions" sorta way. thats why i erase my scumgames from my memory i think, i dont enjoy remembering all my emotional breakdowns.
i think during all my scumgames ive legit cried for some reason, but i havent cried here so like :shrug:
so like i think the main reason i get emotional is because of.. im not good when pressured yknow? its always been that way
i think the way i have my reads this game is pretty different than my acumgames, i think if i was scum i wouldve tried to backdown at the first sign of protest to my datisi read, instead of continuing going fullsteam forward. i dont enjoy having the spotlight as scum ahahah so i dont make reads thatll get *big scary players* mad usually i feel like.
also like if im scum ?? i fully made my datisi vote knowing that i would get backlash for doing an "rvs vote" from people who know me, which like, why do i want that?-
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I'll give you that Lavar ignoring #788 is bad and will refrain from commenting on it further until he answersIn post 939, fireisredsir wrote:
the most significant one for me was 788 they never responded to. and that question was fairly significant for me bc i felt like their reasons for their vote were made up to justify it and i wanted to see if they had some level of internal consistency or town thought process to their readsIn post 937, Gammagooey wrote:I don't particularly try to engage people who scumread me as either alignment either unless they're specifically asking me something - ignoring questions I will give to you as yes it's generally scummy, I just don't remember when/where Lavar did that off the top of my head. I'll look back for it in a min though
i don't really agree with your characterization of the mueh interaction but ig if you don't see anything weird about it then i can't really do much about that. disregarding the joking aspect entirely though, they still came away with a townread on mueh after previously having them as a top scumread, and the reasoning for that was never really developed. do you not find that odd?
For his read on Meuh, where do you see that he came away with a townread on Meuh? He says he could still see Meuh as scum later in #496 here viewtopic.php?p=13380741#p13380741-
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@gamma its mostly this for me. the "i did look at your posts and they seem good" just... doesn't really feel like a believable town progression on someone who was only 50ish posts ago one of their top 2 scumreads? like there's no thought process here, it only even is mentioned bc meuh prompts it and basically provides the answer, and there's not much further evaluation in the future either, but later in 496 theyre back to "i could see meuh as scum" with no progression supporting thatIn post 294, LavarManos wrote: I unvoted you mostly because I thought takotsubo needed to be voted. But yeah. I did look at your posts and they seem good. The part about you voting for takotsubo contributing to my unvote of you was mostly a joke lol.
pedit: i see you found the same thing lol, thats my point-
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no I managed to read most of that post and somehow skip over or completely forget the sentence in the middle saying I looked at your posts they're good. I may be getting old but my eyesight shouldn't be this bad yet wtfIn post 943, fireisredsir wrote:maybe you could argue that them saying "i did look at your posts and they seem good" isn't them coming away with a townread, idk. i think at the very least it's being much more accommodating than i would expect town to be to one of their top scumreads
I still think that a few of his posts feel town that I've already mentioned but I'll admit I missed or glossed over a couple of things.
@Lavar When ya get here I'd appreciate if you could go into a bit more detail on which of Meuh's early posts or which parts were good after re-reading them, along with answering fire's 788-
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ExactlyIn post 933, Gammagooey wrote:Like the only reason I could get for people voting him is that his posting is a little stilted and that his self-admitted tinfoil of Datisi & Marci being scum together is bad. Like he knows nobody's going to agree with it, that's why he said it's tinfoil, and I still think his early posts were good with him flatly saying what he thinks but being open to looking at other things/potentially being wrong about early reads.
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1. "attacking vpb a lot" where tf did i do this? i dont remember having a grrr moment about him until recently wtfIn post 775, LavarManos wrote:Nah I disagree. Feels like she has been attacking Datisi and VPB a lot. You aren't even calling her scum anymore. I scumread her recent posting style too.
VOTE: Marci
2. what about the "recent posting style" is scummy wtf-
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just be thankful im not attaching a skskkskskks or a kpop song to ever post...In post 784, Lukewarm wrote:
Gifs, emojis, caps, and exclamation marks are all consistently marci's posting style regardless of her alignment.In post 777, LavarManos wrote:idts-
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Sorry, I must have missed this.
It was a counterpoint to Lukewarm saying that marci wasn't doing her typical scum behavior of omgusing her attackers. She was doing stuff like calling Datisi "devil" or something lol. The luke read seemed sort of unprompted and the reasoning felt lazy.In post 788, fireisredsir wrote:what about shading datisi and vp makes you think she is more likely to be scum? and what makes you say that the luke read feels random? what's your read on luke?
I think luke has good takes, but I can't fully trust him yet. He attacked marci right off the bat which seemed a bit unnatural. Whenever he makes a case on someone, I'll need to be careful about it. He is townlean for me.-
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Yeah, just your recent posts lol. The posts you made from 27-39 in your iso all felt like random stuff.In post 946, marcistar wrote:i dont remember having a grrr moment about him until recently wtf
2. what about the "recent posting style" is scummy wtf
I will read your iso and see if it connects. I will reevaluating you right now.
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