Mini 2274: Terminator: Salvation Game Over!

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Hectic, can you talk to me about your Gamma read, because I currently think you're both town and would like you both in my crew. is Gamma aware of Enchant's scumrange? His read would not be TMI if he's not aware.

Wdym?

Like if Gamma doesn't know that Enchant is still in his scumrange, it wouldn't be tmi because perhaps he genuinely townreads Enchant

Why is this not a genuine read even if it's wrong/premature basically

[ejjinami]

I have great trouble believing that ejji seriously believes that either.

what if I do?

I mean, bleh
I wasn't gonna get into that conversation right now
If my answer doesn't satisfy you when I do talk, feel free to just yeet me then
let's just move past that for now

[Gamma Emerald]

Hectic, can you talk to me about your Gamma read, because I currently think you're both town and would like you both in my crew. is Gamma aware of Enchant's scumrange? His read would not be TMI if he's not aware.

I've seen enchant scum a few times, but I'm not really sorting enchant by whether he's in his scumrange or not
instead I'm looking at the vibe of his posts, and they feel similar to this game than any scumgame of his I've seen
but I also wanna hear Loki's take on things

[Cat Scratch Fever]

For Loki, there's like no reason for them to not want to be in your (ejji's) bloc I feel. I think they're town so they'll be in my crew

[Gamma Emerald]

I have great trouble believing that ejji seriously believes that either.

what if I do?

I mean, bleh
I wasn't gonna get into that conversation right now
If my answer doesn't satisfy you when I do talk, feel free to just yeet me then
let's just move past that for now

sigh

still think you're town but I can't really make Loki see that if you're gonna go this route

[ejjinami]

I think you should give him a chance to absorb that change in circumstance before calling him scum for that

wdym by that?
I don't understand the sentence tbh

I mean you didn't yet respond to Loki when he said that so it felt premature to judge based on a thought that seemed half-baked
Do you think the post cap changes how you perceive Loki at all?

I considered it
didn't think it was enough to justify the difference
there's a big difference between walls made of some one-liner reads; and walls made of one single read, just explained better

[ejjinami]

Hectic, can you talk to me about your Gamma read, because I currently think you're both town and would like you both in my crew. is Gamma aware of Enchant's scumrange? His read would not be TMI if he's not aware.

I've seen enchant scum a few times, but I'm not really sorting enchant by whether he's in his scumrange or not
instead I'm looking at the vibe of his posts, and they feel similar to this game than any scumgame of his I've seen
but I also wanna hear Loki's take on things

can loki read them?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

gamma who do you think is scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hectic, can you talk to me about your Gamma read, because I currently think you're both town and would like you both in my crew. is Gamma aware of Enchant's scumrange? His read would not be TMI if he's not aware.

I've seen enchant scum a few times, but I'm not really sorting enchant by whether he's in his scumrange or not
instead I'm looking at the vibe of his posts, and they feel similar to this game than any scumgame of his I've seen
but I also wanna hear Loki's take on things

can loki read them?

probably

[Aisa]

I think Rat is more likely to be scum than Fidget or Loki at this point in time. I think I agree with whoever has said (ejji?) that Loki's AtEing this game at points looks like it could be fabricated, but equally there have been other posts where I feel like he is basically saying what is on his mind without fabrication. Interacting with / seeing someone post in real time and that feeling genuine, basically.

I haven't really thought about Fidget in a couple days.

With Rat, I agree the scumcase on CSF feels a bit stilted, and there isn't really anything in their ISO that makes me go "woah this is 100%" town. Personally would steer clear of having them on my team at this point in time.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

So, these are the mech posts that pinged me, though in my mind there were a lot more of these, I guess I got stuff mixed around in my head.

Spoiler:

Last blurb on spec I promise

but the role pm says we have our voice and vote, but glaringly missing from it is that there's nothing about voting out players from the game, which makes me think the leaders probably have control over the lims. So yeah, I strongly suspect read accuracy will matter.

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HEAL: Andante

This sounds like town!Andante to me.

are they always so dramatic?

Dramatic? They sound genuine and that’s why I’m so confident she’s town here.

what I meant was- they misunderstood my posts in pretty silly ways
I got the feeling that they read my posts, got slighty triggered and then overwhelmed with anger when they started writing and describing how scummy and rude I am. As if just writing that kept fueling their anger, causing them to notice new and new arguments for how I'm being bad (which actually were based on pretty simple misunderstandings- I don't think it should be considered scummy by a person who's emotionally sober)

I was asking if it's normal for town!Andante to get so lost in their feelings and lose track of reality
or like... if it's just normal for them to tunnel

sorry if I'm being rude again, I don't know how to describe it otherwhise

I don't think they lose track of reality, but yes Andante does play a very emotionally transparent game. This is completely within her townrange

Feeling town on Ejjinami, I like their analysis here and on 96

but the role pm says we have our voice and vote, but glaringly missing from it is that there's nothing about voting out players from the game, which makes me think the leaders probably have control over the lims. So yeah, I strongly suspect read accuracy will matter.

That is never going to happen and if it does i hope they get 186 as well

Never say never but yeah that would be kind of unfun

Another theory I have is they get special PR-like abilities based on what I'm reading about John Connor in the Terminator Wiki lol

However, they just seem weird and out of place, like I said earlier, like they're meant to draw attention away from relevant discussion.

Beyond that, the energy here is wonky. I know she said she was sick, and that's probably part of it, but... It feels very coasty, kinda going with the flow.

And then after being elected, the suggestion that she'd just pick her healers is demonstrative of a lack of care or investment. Like, if she's scum here, she's already won, it really doesn't matter who her team is, so picking something as superficial as that makes sense. And then she backed down when called on it, of course.

zzzZZZzzz I said that only if it came down to the wire, because we have one day and that's not enough time imo. Why did you just ignore that part of the post

In any case, this game feels town driven so far just based on the leader picks

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma who do you think is scum?

idk, I had suspicions of ejji and NAHA but both of those have shifted
Toog ig could be scum, I did enjoy my interaction with him but it wasn't as much of a breakout moment as my interactions with FB
I have a substantial number of TRs tho which I would call typical of me

[ejjinami]

I dislike NAHA because their reads lack any visible depth
Maybe that’s playstyle but from what I know of them I don’t think so

elaborate on this one. You have played with them before and talked about that
Frankly, how that read comes across to me is: "I know that NAHA is normally like that yet I want to SR them anyway"

[Fidget]

I haven't really thought about Fidget in a couple days.

I''m still here! Doonn't forget meee

I skimmed. Nothing changed for me, although I haven't read the meat RR post abt CSF that everyone's buzzing about, guess I'll save it.

The terminators could be most places still in my mind. We're still in this pregame limbo thing. Maybe scum knows more than we do though, maybe they care a bit more, I haven't really considered that.

[ejjinami]

I think Rat is more likely to be scum than Fidget or Loki at this point in time. I think I agree with whoever has said (ejji?) that Loki's AtEing this game at points looks like it could be fabricated, but equally there have been other posts where I feel like he is basically saying what is on his mind without fabrication. Interacting with / seeing someone post in real time and that feeling genuine, basically.

I haven't really thought about Fidget in a couple days.

With Rat, I agree the scumcase on CSF feels a bit stilted, and there isn't really anything in their ISO that makes me go "woah this is 100%" town. Personally would steer clear of having them on my team at this point in time.

mmm
what do you think about gamma then?

Frankly, I'm kinda struggling to decide on my remaining 3 team members

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma Emerald
Aisa
NotAHecticAlt
Fidget
ejjinami
Cat Scratch Fever
Firebringer
Enchant
Loki Dokie

Radical Rat
Toogeloo
PenguinPower
Andante

snapshot of my reads/PoE rn

[Loki Dokie]

I have great trouble believing that ejji seriously believes that either.

what if I do?

I mean, bleh
I wasn't gonna get into that conversation right now
If my answer doesn't satisfy you when I do talk, feel free to just yeet me then
let's just move past that for now

sigh

still think you're town but I can't really make Loki see that if you're gonna go this route

It just blows my mind that someone would genuinely sr me for differences in posting length in two games where only one of those games had a post cap, because it freaking makes no logical sense.

And yeah, so I’m seriously starting to question if ejji could actually be town saying something so ridiculous, But then again, maybe scum would be a lot more savvy? However I was in a game where scum seemingly deathtunnelled a town player for reasons that made no sense to anyone but I got initially fooled by it because they seemed to really believe it.

[Fidget]

Koba why you need alts if it's always obvious who you are?

Like

WHAT POINT

Almost everyone who uses alts is super obvious when they do. It must be some kind of phenomena.

It just blows my mind that someone would genuinely sr me for differences in posting length in two games where only one of those games had a post cap, because it freaking makes no logical sense.

Are you saying EJJ is scum because you think their reasoning is illogical?

[Gamma Emerald]

I dislike NAHA because their reads lack any visible depth
Maybe that’s playstyle but from what I know of them I don’t think so

elaborate on this one. You have played with them before and talked about that
Frankly, how that read comes across to me is: "I know that NAHA is normally like that yet I want to SR them anyway"

I mentioned playstyle because it was specifically asked about
what I meant by lacking visible depth is that the progression on several slots has been non-existent. You and CSF are the main ones. A part of it tho is it felt (well, maybe even still feels) like NAHA has been specifically avoiding actually updated their read on me at all

[Andante]

Gamma Emerald
Aisa
NotAHecticAlt
Fidget
ejjinami
Cat Scratch Fever
Firebringer
Enchant
Loki Dokie

Radical Rat
Toogeloo
PenguinPower
Andante

snapshot of my reads/PoE rn

YO WHY AM I THE LOWEST?

[PenguinPower]

congrats!

[Andante]

actually.. don't answer that

[ejjinami]

In any case, this game feels town driven so far just based on the leader picks

or the scum haven't bothered to push an agenda much
tho frankly, yeah
there isn't much organized activity / any sort of strong resistance
people seem to play and get triggered individually rather than in teams
I'm not exactly sure if it helps in any way rn tho

[Loki Dokie]

Gamma Emerald
Aisa
NotAHecticAlt
Fidget
ejjinami
Cat Scratch Fever
Firebringer
Enchant
Loki Dokie

Radical Rat
Toogeloo
PenguinPower
Andante

snapshot of my reads/PoE rn

How am I that low in that list?

[Loki Dokie]

Gamma Emerald
Aisa
NotAHecticAlt
Fidget
ejjinami
Cat Scratch Fever
Firebringer
Enchant
Loki Dokie

Radical Rat
Toogeloo
PenguinPower
Andante

snapshot of my reads/PoE rn

How am I that low in that list?