I don't understand. Are you saying that al4xz as scum would have posted this to somehow prevent suspicion from being cast on him after Der Hammer turned up town?iamausername wrote:Gonna Vote: al4xz because Ireallydon't like his "Oh God, I'm so sorry for hammering!" post,it definitely strikes me as coming from someone who already knew the Der Hammer lynch was a bad one.
See this thread and note the fact that OGML posted in it.iamausername wrote:If I remember my MD threads correctly, they're like Millers for Trackers; if they get tracked, they'll be seen to target whoever dies that night.
Yes, I think he was trying to disassociate himself from a townie lynch by pretending that he hadn'tScheherazade wrote:I don't understand. Are you saying that al4xz as scum would have posted this to somehow prevent suspicion from being cast on him after Der Hammer turned up town?iamausername wrote:Gonna Vote: al4xz because Ireallydon't like his "Oh God, I'm so sorry for hammering!" post,it definitely strikes me as coming from someone who already knew the Der Hammer lynch was a bad one.
I suppose I want to know what you mean by a "bad" lynch and what you think al4xz was trying to do by posting that.
al4xz is not the one who hammered. The hammer was by Gerrendus.iamausername wrote:If I remember my MD threads correctly, they're like Millers for Trackers; if they get tracked, they'll be seen to target whoever dies that night.
Never seen them used in a game before, but maybe that's what makes it "New Age", eh?
GonnaVote: al4xzbecause Ireallydon't like his "Oh God, I'm so sorry for hammering!" post, it definitely strikes me as coming from someone who already knew the Der Hammer lynch was a bad one.
I'm aware of this, and I don't see how it has any bearing on my case. Regardless of whether he actually dropped the hammer, al did make that post.Tom Mason wrote:al4xz is not the one who hammered. The hammer was by Gerrendus.
But he also didn't try to pretend that he wasn't placing the vote with the intention of getting Der Hammer lynched, just that he hadn't realised quite how soon it would happen.Tom Mason wrote:So, that is who I am looking at right now. He placed the final vote, then claimed he did not know it was the deciding vote.
To me, if you don't give the guy-who-everyone-wants-to-lynch (DH) a final chance to defend himself/herself, then you deny the town possible information, more or less depending on what role they were. If they were a Townie, normal final attempt to defend themselves, post their suspiscions, etc. Scum, more or less not too much information if you lynch them before they have a chance to speak, unless there are two scum groups. Cop, lots of information - results, suspiscions, a "investigation failed" PM (meaning there is a roleblocker), etc.iamausername wrote:If I remember my MD threads correctly, they're like Millers for Trackers; if they get tracked, they'll be seen to target whoever dies that night.
Never seen them used in a game before, but maybe that's what makes it "New Age", eh?
GonnaVote: al4xzbecause Ireallydon't like his "Oh God, I'm so sorry for hammering!" post, it definitely strikes me as coming from someone who already knew the Der Hammer lynch was a bad one.
I thought I still had my vote on Scheh. I voted him because I thought it would put him in L-1, L-2, etc. not because I wanted to lynch him straight off the bat. Not letting someone give their final words before they get lynched is anti-town, reckless play, etc.al4xz - you are on the hot seat to try and clarify how you did not realize you had a vote on Der Hammer... and why you voted for him when you clearly seemed to not want to?
How so?ribwich wrote:To the people suspicious of Al4xz and/or Gerrendus: I'm assuming this means you are just as much if not more suspicious of Scheh? Their actions making them scum only really makes sense to me under the assumption that Scheh is also scum.
If you knew he was this close to lynch, why didn't you check the votecount before voting to make sure you weren't lynching him?al4xz wrote:I voted him because I thought it would put him in L-1, L-2, etc.
Based upon the name that seems to make the most sense to me.iamausername wrote:If I remember my MD threads correctly, they're like Millers for Trackers; if they get tracked, they'll be seen to target whoever dies that night.
I too would like to know this. is it because of the inattentiveness/unhelpfulness upon which we have been basing suspicions? My suspicions on scheh were based upon the inconsitensy of his arguments and the obvious lack of content in his posts other than baseless defenses.iamausername wrote:How so?ribwich wrote:To the people suspicious of Al4xz and/or Gerrendus: I'm assuming this means you are just as much if not more suspicious of Scheh? Their actions making them scum only really makes sense to me under the assumption that Scheh is also scum.
I'm going to answer these two (well respond is more accurate I suppose) at once. If you saw my post to Vi at the bottom of the last page I said that to me sche seemedribwich wrote: I also don't like Gerrendus's "I think Scheh is scummier but I'll vote Hammer because he's more useless" vote.
If Scheh were town, I don't think they would have been making those comments. I don't even think they would have bothered changing their vote, since a lynch on either Scheh or Der would have essentially been the same. Why risk getting more attention on yourself unless you were protecting your partner?iamausername wrote:How so?
Have it your way. Think what you want. Not everyone can remember everything. Have you ever heard the expression, "people don't notice what's right underneath their noses?"Tom Mason wrote:I want to know how in 24 HOURS he could forget that he already voted for Der Hammer... especially when an updated vote count was posted between both his voting posts.
Tells me someone is: (a) not paying attention, or (b) reaching for excuses.
- Tom Mason
I knew he was approaching lynch; I wasn't expecting him to be at L-1. Yes,i t was reckless play, and I should have checked the votecount.If you knew he was this close to lynch, why didn't you check the votecount before voting to make sure you weren't lynching him?