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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:31 am

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SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:So who can you see being scum with Guardian? Sensfan?
I most certainly can't see myself as being Scum with anyone, which is the point I was making.
Note that you didn't answer who you could see being scum with Guardian. How could you hammer in a game where two mislynches=lose for the town without having a good idea about who his scum mate was.

I just don't think you are ignorant enough not to see that placing someone at lynch-1 is a good way to pressure potential scum and his partner into doing something truly scummy.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:49 am

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Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:So who can you see being scum with Guardian? Sensfan?
I most certainly can't see myself as being Scum with anyone, which is the point I was making.
Note that you didn't answer who you could see being scum with Guardian. How could you hammer in a game where two mislynches=lose for the town without having a good idea about who his scum mate was.

I just don't think you are ignorant enough not to see that placing someone at lynch-1 is a good way to pressure potential scum and his partner into doing something truly scummy.
I would think that looking for scumbuddies is far less important in a game where hitting either Scum wins the game.

Is there anything in particular you expect me to say to the several times you imply I'm not very good at this game?
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:52 am

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SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:So who can you see being scum with Guardian? Sensfan?
I most certainly can't see myself as being Scum with anyone, which is the point I was making.
Note that you didn't answer who you could see being scum with Guardian. How could you hammer in a game where two mislynches=lose for the town without having a good idea about who his scum mate was.

I just don't think you are ignorant enough not to see that placing someone at lynch-1 is a good way to pressure potential scum and his partner into doing something truly scummy.
I would think that looking for scumbuddies is far less important in a game where hitting either Scum wins the game.

Is there anything in particular you expect me to say to the several times you imply I'm not very good at this game?
Uhm.

Generally both people in a scumpair are scum. So, y'know, looking for them will find scum. So, y'know, that's good.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:53 am

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SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:So who can you see being scum with Guardian? Sensfan?
I most certainly can't see myself as being Scum with anyone, which is the point I was making.
Note that you didn't answer who you could see being scum with Guardian. How could you hammer in a game where two mislynches=lose for the town without having a good idea about who his scum mate was.

I just don't think you are ignorant enough not to see that placing someone at lynch-1 is a good way to pressure potential scum and his partner into doing something truly scummy.
I would think that looking for scumbuddies is far less important in a game where hitting either Scum wins the game.

Is there anything in particular you expect me to say to the several times you imply I'm not very good at this game?
Why did you hammer on page 2?
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:55 am

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other question you chose not to answer:
1. So all three people voting for Guardian called for a hammer, and you assumed that the one other person besides yourself who wasn't voting for Guardian was obviously scum with Guardian?
2. Did it occur to you that random votes don't count as legitimate suspicion?
3. How many times can we mislynch before the town loses?
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:55 am

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also,
4. So who can you see being scum with Guardian?
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:59 am

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right before you posted
SensFan wrote:Whatever.

Unvote, Vote: guardian
I posted
Adel wrote:Jdodge, from your perspective, did Guardian commit his scumtell yet?
and then Jdodge posted
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Adel wrote:Jdodge, from your perspective, did Guardian commit his scumtell yet?
I honestly can barely remember what that tell was. Let me try and remember and I'll get back to you.
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any
curiousity about whether or not it applied to Guardian?
6. Why didn't you ask what it was?
7. Why didn't you ask if I thought it applied?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:03 am

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Adel wrote:other question you chose not to answer:
1. So all three people voting for Guardian called for a hammer, and you assumed that the one other person besides yourself who wasn't voting for Guardian was obviously scum with Guardian?
2. Did it occur to you that random votes don't count as legitimate suspicion?
3. How many times can we mislynch before the town loses?
1. Uhhh...no. I never said that, or anything remotely like it.
2. Yes, it did. It also occured to me that all 3 people voting him, especially jdodge/gurgi were calling for a hammer.
3. Two. I assumed I didn't need to answer this, since it is obvious from looking at the set-up.
4. Right now, no one, since he is apparently Town. I also said in my last post that I didn't, and still don't, see why I should concern myself looking for a scumbuddy, when nailing 1 Scum is enough.

I hammered on page 2 because I did not like Guardian's theory, and all 3 other people voting him appeared to be supporting a lynch.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:04 am

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Adel, if you disagree with the hammer, shouldn't you also have issues with Gurgi and JDodge, who agree with the hammer?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:06 am

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SensFan wrote:Adel, if you disagree with the hammer, shouldn't you also have issues with Gurgi and JDodge, who agree with the hammer?
actions speak louder than words: you hammered.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:06 am

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Adel wrote:right before you posted
SensFan wrote:Whatever.

Unvote, Vote: guardian
I posted
Adel wrote:Jdodge, from your perspective, did Guardian commit his scumtell yet?
and then Jdodge posted
JDodge wrote:
Adel wrote:Jdodge, from your perspective, did Guardian commit his scumtell yet?
I honestly can barely remember what that tell was. Let me try and remember and I'll get back to you.
5. Why didn't you show
any
curiousity about whether or not it applied to Guardian?
6. Why didn't you ask what it was?
7. Why didn't you ask if I thought it applied?
5. Because I strongly doubted the fact that you actually had some sort of secret scumtell on Guardian.
6. I assumed you would have been more explanitory and asked more than just JDodge, if it was serious and concerned others.
7. See above two answers. I didn't pay much attention to a vague guestion asked to someone other than me.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:07 am

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What games have you completed?
Please list, with links,
all
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:07 am

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Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:Adel, if you disagree with the hammer, shouldn't you also have issues with Gurgi and JDodge, who agree with the hammer?
actions speak louder than words: you hammered.
That's bullshit. I am not sure about Gurgi, but JDodge has said several times that he would have hammered in my spot. If 3 people think Guardian should be hammered, why should I be more suspicious that the other two because I happened to not be voting him?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:08 am

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Adel wrote:What games have you completed?
Please list, with links,
all
of them.
Seeing as its a fairly long list that would take me a few minutes to link and everything, can I ask why you are asking me for this?
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:12 am

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SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:What games have you completed?
Please list, with links,
all
of them.
Seeing as its a fairly long list that would take me a few minutes to link and everything, can I ask why you are asking me for this?
So I can read them and potentially build a meta case that either indites or clears you.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:13 am

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SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:Adel, if you disagree with the hammer, shouldn't you also have issues with Gurgi and JDodge, who agree with the hammer?
actions speak louder than words: you hammered.
That's bullshit. I am not sure about Gurgi, but JDodge has said several times that he would have hammered in my spot. If 3 people think Guardian should be hammered, why should I be more suspicious that the other two because I happened to not be voting him?
dude, you hammered on page 2.

How many games have you read that had left the random stage
before]/b] page 3?

Do you know what the word "hyperbole" means?
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:14 am

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Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:What games have you completed?
Please list, with links,
all
of them.
Seeing as its a fairly long list that would take me a few minutes to link and everything, can I ask why you are asking me for this?
So I can read them and potentially build a meta case that either indites or clears you.
Alright. Give me a few minutes, though, since I have about 30 completed games.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:15 am

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Adel wrote:Scum Fight!

y don't juz lynch Guardian now, plz?
why did you chose to take this literally?
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:15 am

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Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:Adel, if you disagree with the hammer, shouldn't you also have issues with Gurgi and JDodge, who agree with the hammer?
actions speak louder than words: you hammered.
That's bullshit. I am not sure about Gurgi, but JDodge has said several times that he would have hammered in my spot. If 3 people think Guardian should be hammered, why should I be more suspicious that the other two because I happened to not be voting him?
dude, you hammered on page 2.

How many games have you read that had left the random stage
before]/b] page 3?

Do you know what the word "hyperbole" means?
Are you ignoring that JDodge has said, since the fact, that he would have hammered?
And pretty much
every
game I play leaves the random stage by page 3...
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:16 am

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Adel wrote:
Adel wrote:Scum Fight!

y don't juz lynch Guardian now, plz?
why did you chose to take this literally?
Because I assumed you were equally suspicious of Guardian as the other two that had votes on him, who wanted a hammer.
I am not liking how you seem not to comprehend that JDodge and Gurgi did very much want a hammer.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:18 am

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SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Adel wrote:
SensFan wrote:Adel, if you disagree with the hammer, shouldn't you also have issues with Gurgi and JDodge, who agree with the hammer?
actions speak louder than words: you hammered.
That's bullshit. I am not sure about Gurgi, but JDodge has said several times that he would have hammered in my spot. If 3 people think Guardian should be hammered, why should I be more suspicious that the other two because I happened to not be voting him?
dude, you hammered on page 2.

How many games have you read that had left the random stage
before]/b] page 3?

Do you know what the word "hyperbole" means?
Are you ignoring that JDodge has said, since the fact, that he would have hammered?
And pretty much
every
game I play leaves the random stage by page 3...
I am not ignoring what Jdodge has posted. I have a systematic approach towards mafia.

Which post do you interpret as LG calling for a hammer?

How many hammers have you seen before page 3?
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:27 am

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End of Day 1 Votecount:
Guardian-4 (Adel, Lord Gurgi, JDodge, SensFan)
Adel-1 (Battousai)
Battousai-1 (Guardian)


Guardian has been lynched. He was a normal
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:30 am

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It is now Day 2! With 5 alive, it is 3 to lynch.

Deadline is set for November 27.

Good luck.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:31 am

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This should be all of my completed games. It does not include games in which I was replaced.

Newbie Games (Scum)
Newbie 613
Newbie 669

Newbie Games (Town)
Newbie 514
Newbie 550
Newbie 585
Newbie 586
Newbie 608
Newbie 638

Mini Games (Scum)
Mini 537
Mini 550
Mini 551
Mini 570
Mini 625

Mini Games (Town)
Mini 532
Mini 562
Mini 604
Mini 610
Mini 632
Mini 639
Mini 643

Large Games (Scum)
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:32 am

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Adel wrote:I am not ignoring what Jdodge has posted. I have a systematic approach towards mafia.

Which post do you interpret as LG calling for a hammer?

How many hammers have you seen before page 3?
Fair enough.

Posts by Gurgi: 2, 4, 8

None, actually.
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