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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:24 pm

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In different instances I can see that statement to be true.
Have I even be in two other games with you?
No, it's not. But considering the current high pressure situation - and your head on the chopping block, it would be in your best interested to be nice to me, wouldn't it?
Cop and doc can confirm themselves far more easily then you can. Would I vote for a claimed doc? Well, you already know the answer to that one. ;P
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:29 pm

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You defended me twice of not being scum for gathering unnecessary attention in the beginning. Remember?
And if you want Ill stop being friendly. Let me know, kay?
Yes I know the answer to that one. It was a completely different situation but the end is strangely similar to this one. You know how things ended, right?
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:38 pm

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Not off the top of my head. This game?
Don't ask me that. Just... don't.
Docs and watchers are completely different role, as well, that's a different game. You're alignment may or may not be the same.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:39 pm

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Ah, I know what you're talking about. Still - different situation.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:40 pm

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If you mean a different game. x_x
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:10 pm

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No. It is based on the fact that he agreed with me in a pretty concise case and then voted me for one of the worst reasons ever. If you agree with someone in the majority of your posts, how is not a 180 to vote for that person for PRODDING you? Wouldnt you freak out?
Is it so hard for you to believe that you and Muerrto both thought Time was scum? Does he have to be "following" you.


A watcher may seem lame to you, but it doesn't mean it is not a concievable claim. How often is a watcher in a game compared to a doc or a cop? Not as much I would suspect. So by claiming watcher, you minimize the chance of being counterclaimed while still having a role that is hard to prove.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:12 am

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Batto wrote:Is it so hard for you to believe that you and Muerrto both thought Time was scum? Does he have to be "following" you.
No. Thats not the 180. The 180 is the WTF vote after we both thought he was scum. Thats what freaked me out.
if you agree with player A about player B being scum then you prob dont think that player A is scum specially for PRODDING you.
Batto wrote:A watcher may seem lame to you, but it doesn't mean it is not a concievable claim. How often is a watcher in a game compared to a doc or a cop? Not as much I would suspect. So by claiming watcher, you minimize the chance of being counterclaimed while still having a role that is hard to prove.
You are right about the possibilities. Cop/doc is more usual than watcher. But what you are proposing is that I took too many risks. According to you, I guessed there wasn't a watcher in this game that could counterclaim me and I guessed the exact win condition for town.
So do you finally agree with the Shadowgirl-Tony thing right? And what other posts were you talking about? (referred to post 685)
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:34 am

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No, he's saying the opposite: that a watcher is a relatively low risk role to claim.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:39 am

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But how would I know that there isnt a watcher in this game? Even if that is low-risk, why didnt I claim either a claim that could save my ass/out a powerful PR as doc/cop as Shadowgirl has pointed out or a lamer claim as miller?
Why no comments of my other points? My exact win condition, my arguments about Muerrto? Why cant I be a watcher?
It seems like you guys want me lynched yes or yes.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:46 am

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I'm not saying you know for sure: I'm saying that the chances there is one is rather slim. And about the cop/doc: they may not counterclaim you on day one, but they would probably on the following day.

As well, Miller would get you lynched you for sure. :/
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:50 am

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It seems like you guys want me lynched yes or yes.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:45 am

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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:26 am

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Hey, you missed the grimmy part you add at the end everytime.
Grimmy, its inconceivable you dont agree with me in at least one of my arguments.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:59 am

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Where is everybody, and why haven't we lynched muerrto yet?
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:04 am

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Hey guys, sorry for... disappearing. It's going to take a real grind to get back through this game. Depending on how other stuff goes, I might have some time to do so this weekend. Please don't do anything rash while I get back up to speed.
I thought far too much about this stupid signature to put a goddamn meta-reference in it.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:22 am

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TonyMontana wrote:Where is everybody, and why haven't we lynched muerrto yet?
Yes, that will get us to lynch Muerrto...

Tajo: The posts I was talking about were the ones where I said were scummy (180 post, early claim...)
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:31 am

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Tajo wrote:So you are giving me the reason in the Tony-Shadowgirl thing?
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:16 am

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What are you talking about?
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:08 am

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This.
Batto wrote:You said that Tony is definately not scum and Shadowgirl is probably not, when they said they had the same win condition as you.
I explained why I thought this. Since you didnt answer it in your next post I assume you had accepted I was right about this, right?
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:26 am

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No, I do not think you're right. I feel it proves nothing. I accepted that you won't drop it regardless of what anyone else thinks.
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:48 am

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So, do you think I didnt guess the win condition and that Tony, Shadowgirl and Muerrto are lying about their win conditions?
Batto, its also incredibly that you dont even agree in one point with me.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:30 am

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I think it is possible. as I have stated earlier, that since you were allowed to say your win condition, the mod would have set up something for the scum to balance it. I feel that the scum could have been given a sample town role pm in their role pm. If that is the case at then you could be mafia. I also feel that if you are town, then it would be easy for scum to react that way to your win condition (tony unvoted when you claimed). Now Tony, SG, and Muerrto could be telling the truth, but I would have to take their word for it as nothing other than their words points to what they said as the truth.

I would prefer a Tony lynch over yours as to help give a little credence to your claim (and if you're telling the truth allows you to use your ability at least once), but there wasn't enough support for a Tony lynch so I hoped on the largest wagon on someone I felt could be scum.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:50 pm

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Battousai wrote:I feel that the scum could have been given a sample town role pm in their role pm.
I don't like Tajo and I'm fine lynching him but I REALLY don't like this. Has anyone EVER played in a game where you got OTHER people's PM's in yours?

I haven't...
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:49 am

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I have... but only once before. I was the one that mentioned this before, though it seemed like no one else had seen this at the time. It wasn't a game of skitzer's that it happened in since this is the first one of his I have played, and IIRC it wasn't even on this site. It may have been on something awful. Anyway I also find this statement sort of odd as Batt never mentioned having a game like this before.
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:36 am

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Muerrto wrote:
Battousai wrote:I feel that the scum could have been given a sample town role pm in their role pm.
I don't like Tajo and I'm fine lynching him but I REALLY don't like this. Has anyone EVER played in a game where you got OTHER people's PM's in yours?

I haven't...
In my ~20 game history, no.
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