Mini Normal 2275: Roguelikes - Day 3: Endgame!


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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:12 am

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In post 720, Confidently Wrong wrote: But no one is saying that is scummy on its own.
That's all I've really seen so far
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:16 am

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In post 721, Shoshin wrote:VOTE: Confidently Wrong
In post 722, Confidently Wrong wrote:Ok I'm still going to read you town and carry anyways
In post 723, Confidently Wrong wrote:If you want to be obtuse, I think you are town because your thoughts are obviously independent and I can trace how you reached conclusions.

I disagree with your conclusions, and think the process is wrong. But its a towny process.
In post 724, Confidently Wrong wrote:If you want to play with your ego and get mad and vote me for disagreeing with you go ahead, but don't be surprised when it doesn't help win the game for town.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:17 am

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Cats still mad I busted him up so early. Sorry Bud it happens, even a blind Lowell finds a nut once in a while. I’ll laugh if it’s eira AND Cats, but I doubt that’s likely unless there’s a scum day chat.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:19 am

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I am at a point where I can call every one of these players town with confidence, if I am wrong about *any* of them it is at worst only 1 in my humble opinion.

Loftwing
MalcolmTucker
Shoshin
Fredrick A Campbell
Cat Scratch Fever
FancyPants
Irrelephant11

And then to add on to that, I would say Mala after her recent postings and Kenny, are both also townreads for me although I am not confident enough to lock them in. Mala is closer to townlocking than Kenny here in this case.

This leaves us with a trio of BBT/Lowell/Eiralox
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:19 am

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In post 727, Lowell wrote:Cats still mad I busted him up so early. Sorry Bud it happens, even a blind Lowell finds a nut once in a while. I’ll laugh if it’s eira AND Cats, but I doubt that’s likely unless there’s a scum day chat.
"i'm definitely not mafia, see I didn't know about scum daychat being standard haha!"
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:21 am

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I would say my biggest blindspot in my townlocks would be Irrelephant but I feel I've mindmelded with them a bunch this game. I would be concerned if they were alive in the lategame and my PoE was fully flipped by that point.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:21 am

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Bro I haven’t played in five years. Gimme a minute here
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:22 am

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What're your reads, Lowell?
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:23 am

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Also @cw you’re making the classic mistake of thinking thoughtful/useful = town. Your list is basically “here’s who I read the most from”
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:23 am

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Weird because I opened 2 games of yours from 2017 and they both had daychat standard, any other 2017 gamers know when mafia daychat became more standard in games?
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:24 am

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No I think Shoshin or MalcomT is not that useful right now and I think they are town
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:26 am

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OK I see it was not standard back in 2015 so there is light plausibility. However the assumption of no daytalk when normals did have it back then is lol
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:29 am

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But also you may have played since 2005 but I also have at least 5 years of mafia under my belt - and I see your preemptive attempt to discredit my townreads and simultaneously open an avenue to plausibly defend Eira.

Nothing escapes me, I notice all.

It is absolutely true that townies will show more thoughtfulness in their analysis and trying to claim otherwise is pushing to allow players like Eira to live on that very basis.


Sure this can misclear some scums sometimes - however those are players that typically will still slip in some form at some point. They are players you simply do not catch early unless by PoE.

So forgive me if I take you discred attempt with a grain of salt.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:34 am

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This is going to be one of those games I out a perfect PoE at the end of day 1(perhaps even my current solve is perfect who knows), I get nightkilled, and mafia still somehow end up winning, huh.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:37 am

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With the caveat that this is pretty meaningless since I could easily be faking not knowing, as you say: I’m not sure I can recall daychat ever being done, much less standard. But yes who cares.
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:37 am

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In post 727, Lowell wrote:Cats still mad I busted him up so early. Sorry Bud it happens, even a blind Lowell finds a nut once in a while. I’ll laugh if it’s eira AND Cats, but I doubt that’s likely unless there’s a scum day chat.
I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think my earlier reaction was "scum panicking"
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:40 am

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In post 703, Shoshin wrote:Town to scum:

Eira
Fancy
Kenny
Malcolm
Cat
CW
Irrel
BBT
Fred
Mala
Lowell
Loftwing
Why is Fred so low? Lower than BBT and Irrel?
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:41 am

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@cw that just isn’t right. “Good” players tend to survive regardless of alignment, it’s the reason I go on feel and atmospherics more than by who can craft the most thoughtful case. Cats panicked when he thought he was caught for a dumb reason, and has spent the next 20 pages lurking or sniping at low hanging fruit. That’s more meaningful to me than “oh this idiot has bad opinions”
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:43 am

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In post 742, Lowell wrote:Cats panicked when he thought he was caught for a dumb reason, and
has spent the next 20 pages lurking or sniping at low hanging fruit.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:44 am

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Anyway so who we killing here. Anyone but me.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:44 am

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In post 721, Shoshin wrote:VOTE: Confidently Wrong
I feel like you're both town

And if you can work together, this game should really be a cakewalk
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:47 am

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@Lowell, how am I lurking? Why do you expect me to think you're town? That's a wild accusation
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:55 am

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In post 741, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Why is Fred so low? Lower than BBT and Irrel?
Don't like Fred's gimmick or & .
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:55 am

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Why is CW town, Cat?
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:57 am

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In post 744, Lowell wrote:Anyway so who we killing here. Anyone but me.
If you vote CW, I'll do my best to protect you.

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